! New Windows Vista "gaming" hotfix

misadlouhy · Post by **misadlouhy** » 29 Aug 2007, 19:12

read about it here
http://www.nvidia.com/object/windows_vista_hotfixes.html

"This hotfix resolves abnormal application behavior such as crashes and extremely low frame rates when running some 3D applications at very high graphics settings. This issue is not limited to, but has been most commonly noticed on high-end graphics cards and the following applications: Battlefield 2, Battlefield 2142, Civilization IV, Company of Heroes, Half-Life 2, Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth II, Supreme Commander, and Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas.

In order for this hotfix to be effective, GeForce customers must also update to the latest ForceWare Release 163 drivers: "

download it here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 29 Aug 2007, 19:14

Hey cool ... thanks for the Heads up ! ... 8)

misadlouhy · Post by **misadlouhy** » 29 Aug 2007, 19:22

it is mentioned on main nvidia download page, so it should be really recomended.
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

I wonder if this is addressing the "memory management" problem, when the frame rate dropped after playing some time on Gf8 cards and it was recomended to use ALT+TAB (and jump back in the game again) in order to "zeroize" the graphics memory and raise the frame rate.

Maybe this is something different.

ToryS · Post by **ToryS** » 30 Aug 2007, 05:51

any difference?

Frag Maniac · Post by **Frag Maniac** » 30 Aug 2007, 07:14

Wow, good news indeed, hopefully Vista SP1 will kick it up yet another notch. Come on 8800 owners, tell us how it works?

YouTube · Post by **ViciousXUSMC** » 30 Aug 2007, 10:47

I think alot of us use the 164 beta's because of Bioshock.... so lets hope it works with those.

misadlouhy · Post by **misadlouhy** » 30 Aug 2007, 11:00

As far as I know Vista SP1 should improve the performance a lot

P-Storm · Post by **P-Storm** » 31 Aug 2007, 22:50

I read that SP1 for vista was delayd (or released) in 2008 Q1. So hopefull there will be a lot of these fixes :roll:

Gabbo · Post by **Gabbo** » 01 Sep 2007, 02:43

This update is a must have for anyone who games in Vista. It addresses the huge problem of the 2GB memory address space limitation of 32bit operating systems. The way that vista was handling address space was causing games to hit the limit and crash (especially if you run high resolutions). This update significantly reduces the amount of address space used during gaming.

This addresses the problems people had in STALKER, Supreme Commander, etc...

Now Vista's address space usage while gaming is MUCH closer to XP.

This is only really a band-aid for the problem though. The real fix is to go to a 64bit OS with the 8 Terabyte address space limit.

Post by **Tamlin** » 01 Sep 2007, 14:20

I think many of the beta hotfixes and the final ones can be found here:

hotfix share

YouTube · Post by **ViciousXUSMC** » 02 Sep 2007, 17:40

anybody notice a fps boost? I read a review/evaluation of the hotfix and they shows the memory use way way down, but the fps before and after the fix was the same.

I need to correct myself too. I said 164 forcware above, I guess I was not thinking its 163.44 that is the new beta bios that I had installed.

Gabbo · Post by **Gabbo** » 05 Sep 2007, 09:01

anybody notice a fps boost? I read a review/evaluation of the hotfix and they shows the memory use way way down, but the fps before and after the fix was the same.

I need to correct myself too. I said 164 forcware above, I guess I was not thinking its 163.44 that is the new beta bios that I had installed.

I don't think you will see a performance increase, but application stability is greatly improved.

Post by **skipclarke** » 08 May 2009, 17:15

Just installed Windows 7 RC1 build 7100 and previous to that I was using Beta build 7000.

Under the beta version, I ran NVidia Windows 7 beta driver 181.71 and the beta gxm and was able to get 5040x1050 without a problem.

There is a new NVidia beta driver 185.81 so I thought I would install it with RC1 and beta gxm. Unfortunately I couldn't get the wizard to set res at 5040x1050.

I rolled back to 181.71 and re-ran the wizard and I was able to setup 5040x1050 res again np.

I would recommend sticking with 181.71 and beta gxm on Windows 7 versions atm. Anyone else have any luck?

This is also an issue with Windows 7 RC1 client, I know the point release is slightly different, but it seems similiar, and I have gt200 series cards and 64 bit as well. Stick with an earlier working driver for now I would think.

Post by **skipclarke** » 08 May 2009, 23:51

This is also an issue with Windows 7 RC1 client, I know the point release is slightly different, but it seems similiar, and I have gt200 series cards and 64 bit as well. Stick with an earlier working driver for now I would think.

Yeah, saw your other post on it and agree, seems to be the same issue. Annoying that so many bugs (lots of NVCP problems apparently) and completely open issues like this still pass WHQL certification.

Post by **skipclarke** » 09 May 2009, 00:52

I got the same problems! It doesnÂ´t matter if Win 7 or Vista (both x64) is installed! I tried the drivers (185.xx whql and beta) on both OS and always got the same problem!

GXM displays: its not possible to set my resolution, or something like that ( i dont remember what exact expression, but it was the first thing after you got to reboot after setting up GMX)

But with 182.xx nearly everthing went fine! Now I got 5040x1050@57 on both OS.....

In my oppinion its an NV driver issue!!

Tobi

Post by **skipclarke** » 09 May 2009, 01:46

mero, your avatar is far too big in dimensions and filesize. From the profile page ...

...its width can be no greater than 168 pixels, the height no greater than 105 pixels, and the file size no more than 10 KB.

Please change it ASAP, thanks.

Post by **skipclarke** » 28 May 2009, 00:16

Hmm with the 185.85whql its not just 5040x1050 that doesnt work. 4320x900 doesnt either - no problem with the 182.50whql release (both tested on 7rc1 x64 and vista x64), so it really is a driver issue. well it sucks in my opinion, as the ambient occlusion setting is a nice gimmick, especially in source games/mods (playing the beta1 of fakefactorys half-life 2 cinematic mod 10 lately).

Post by **skipclarke** » 28 May 2009, 21:21

Hmm... is 182.50whql the lastest NVidia Drivers that handle TripleHead correctly?

Post by **skipclarke** » 30 May 2009, 00:10

Hmm... is 182.50whql the lastest NVidia Drivers that handle TripleHead correctly?

Yes

Post by **skipclarke** » 30 May 2009, 20:13

THX :wink:

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