Pixelwix Multi projector screen size survey!

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chrisbrackenbury
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Pixelwix Multi projector screen size survey!

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Hi all we are trying to come up with the most average ideal size of screen home users would want in a projection game screen.

Basically we are looking to produce a low cost standard curved or flat screen size for one two or three projector games screens.

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benjimoron
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I don't know if I'm average

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I don't know if I'm average but I would say something along the lines of 150-200" for me. I guess I have a larger than average lounge, but then I'm only 29 and not rich so maybe there's loads of people with much bigger lounges!!! I would say 2 PJ's would be cool, 1 is standard already. Problem is that 2 is cool, but AFAIK 3 is what you need for Nvidia 3D and then that makes the budget so much more. I seem to remember that BHawthorne made it work with 2 PJ's by fooling it into thinking there were 3.
reuben.ahmed
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width

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you're probably asking width, and not diagonal?
if diagonal, what aspect ratio are we dealing with?

I'm in a 14x14 room and want to use the diagonal of the room for the screen. So I think 15ft wide curved screen would work.

I don't think you should enter the one projector market as there are already a lot of options there, the curved dual/3 projector market is a niche that you can get some sales from.

not everyone is doing 3PJs, i think eyefinity can work with 2 (???).

3 pjs at 1080p each is costly. 3 PJs at 720ps leaves something to be desired. 2 PJs at 1080p leaves the crosshair in the middle!
chrisbrackenbury
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Is this the perfect 2 channel game screen size

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So is this more like it?

Regards Chris
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reuben.ahmed
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Bigger

Post by reuben.ahmed »

OK, I was thinking 15ft WIDE (with curve integrated). In your example it is only 8ft wide. That MAY be a cost effective solution for most, but I have a feeling most have at least 10ft wide to work with (and some depth).

So I think it might need 3 projectors. Can you mock up 3 projectors and 15ft wide?

Can you redo with what that might look like? Thanks for the pictures.

Also what is your estimated cost in USD?

Thanks,
Reuben
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This is brilliant! I was

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This is brilliant! I was looking at different eyefinity setups since the DIY skills needed to create one of these from scratch are simply not in my possession. Consider my interest registered. 8-10ft wide sounds good to me, but options are always good provided they don't make the cost shoot through the roof. I'm thinking desk space (my desk is about 8ft long) versus dedicating an entire wall like some people do with HT setups in the living room (if that makes sense). I don't suppose the screen would be light enough to clamp to a desk? That would be really ideal for me. My desk is strengthened glass, but it currently supports 3 screens at 27kg over a relatively small surface area, so I'm guessing properly spread weight wouldn't be an issue for mine or other decent quality desks.

Another thought: is it difficult/cost prohibitive to do a slightly convex screen as opposed to merely curved?
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Hi NoxThe frames are very

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Hi Nox
The frames are very light so no problem to clamp to desks but as the in the drawing it has a stand to hold the projectors.
So would you not use this idea in your situation?.
How would you place the projectors or are you thinking place them behind for rear projection?.

Spherical shapes can be done but we then have to use solid plastics which increase the cost dramatically.

Regards chris
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chrisbrackenbury
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I can do better than a

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I can do better than a picture here is a video of a 15'
http://youtu.be/sFTrndLQ9SA

As for cost there are many different quality in the projection material used.
Our high quality wide view angle with the correct gain factor to stop hotspots and aid edge blending can be $15.99 per sq foot and at the low end be $8 per sq foot.
But we are thinking of offering just the frames alone.(Oh! We may get complaints from wives/girlfriends/moms missing some bed sheets now)

Regards chris
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Tbh I'd not really thought

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Tbh I'd not really thought the idea through very well (the initial excitement was too much :bigsmile:). I was seeing it as a nice replacement for my current 3x1-L surround setup, so therefore first envisioned the screen sat on my desk. I guess I'd probably have to get a smaller desk to fit in the middle of it. The only other option I could see would be to make the screen adjustable back/forth (and I guess up and down), but that seems like overkill. Looking at the current design I could probably get most of it to hang over the desk provided the height offset was enough, so no worries. I need to think before I type.
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reuben.ahmed
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How tall?

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Chris,

How tall is that 15ft wide screen? It looks mighty short.

Thanks!
Reuben
chrisbrackenbury
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Hi ReubenI guess you are

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Hi Reuben
I guess you are talking the viewable right?
In this case it's 42" using gt 700 projectors at 4 feet back.

In 16:10 mode you get and image 67" wide by 42" height you then take away the overlap 12% and multiply by the 3 projectors and you get 176.88" or just under 15 feet by 42” image.

This keeps the pixels as close to accurate in aspect ratio and uses the most pixels available buy the projectors.
You can get more height using 4:3 or by pulling the projectors back but your overlap will be larger and lose more pixels to fix this you get a wider screen.

Hope this helps.
Regards chris
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My screen size preference is

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My screen size preference is from 150"-250" wide. I think my height is about 60" atm.

I've been using dual projectors on a flat wall for five years now, and I definitely prefer size. I hadn't even considered a wrap-around setup until I saw your company's stuff, Chris. What I'm after is mainly immersion through peripheral vision, so the curved screen would be a much more efficient way to achieve that.
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