ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

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ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

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Anandtech talked a little about the 5870 Eyefinity 6 edition during their 5830 review:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3750&p=2
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Gah!! Only 2 mini-dp to single link DVI? Awwww I need 4 to start. Oh well, atleast I know I need to order another 2 cables now atleast.
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Gah!! Only 2 mini-dp to single link DVI? Awwww I need 4 to start. Oh well, atleast I know I need to order another 2 cables now atleast.


When Dave was talking about "wait until you see what's in the package", I thought about the possibility of more than 2 DAC's on board, and considered yet again if I should wish for more patience. I realized that I am happy enough with my DisplayPort monitors (P2310H) even if I could have bought cheaper options, and I've been enjoying two of them at a time while I wait for the 5870E6.

If true, I am disappointed that they're pushing for vendors to include anything. While it doesn't impact cost greatly, if it's a good idea vendors could include the adapters they want, without forcing one size on all. Just like there are a couple of the cables that you won't use, I won't use any as I've already bought a miniDP to DP adapter for each monitor I have (I picked up 10ft cables) Allowing vendors to offer different bundles for different users would potentially allow both OzHuski and I to get the adapters we want without wasting money on ones we don't. This is especially true for those who might CrossFire these cards.

They're a waste of cost for the vendor and retail price for me. Monoprice lists the 5 items AnandTech mentions as about $35 retail. Even at their rates, it's adding a decent unneeded amount to the final retail price on the card for me. Hopefully, AnandTech is wrong.

Overall, I hope that there's some pushback internally to allow more nontechnical details to leak out earlier. It'd be nice if nothing was demo-ed that wasn't coming within x months without warning the consumer (and a comment given in the case of slippage). Apparently x = 6 or so, which seems a bit high to me. We've known that this card is coming since last fall. Maybe I was unrealistic, but given when the 5870E6 was demoed, I was expecting it in time for Christmas or an announcement at CES.

Something like "We want to broaden the 5xxx line to the budget end of the market, give some time to stabalize Eyefinity drivers, and have some new software features to roll out before we feel comfortable releasing the 5870E6. It's likely going to be longer than either ATI or you would like." would have been great to reduce undue expectations. In retrospect, I understand why it's waited, I just wish that I had known so I could have been more patient.
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Perhaps I'm getting a bit confused (got other things on my mind at the minute) but I want a couple of things clarified if I may:

- How many screens the "5876" can actually EyeFinity together
- How many screens the "5876" can run in EyeFinity if also running in Crossfire
- What connection options there are for >3 screens. I currently suspect it'll be an all mini-DisP->DisP setup, using whatever monitors that are available with a DisP connector. Such as the Dell P2210H, U2410, 2711 and 3008...
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- How many screens the "5876" can actually EyeFinity together
- How many screens the "5876" can run in EyeFinity if also running in Crossfire
- What connection options there are for >3 screens. I currently suspect it'll be an all mini-DisP->DisP setup, using whatever monitors that are available with a DisP connector. Such as the Dell P2210H, U2410, 2711 and 3008...

From my understanding of what I read so far:
- 6
- 6 (all connected to one card) // haven't actually read it, but should work

1 of the screens can be hdmi/dvi or dp
1 of the screens can be dvi or dp
rest needs to be dp or will need an active DP to dvi/vga adapter.
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[quote]
- How many screens the "5876" can actually EyeFinity together
- How many screens the "5876" can run in EyeFinity if also running in Crossfire
- What connection options there are for >3 screens. I currently suspect it'll be an all mini-DisP->DisP setup, using whatever monitors that are available with a DisP connector. Such as the Dell P2210H, U2410, 2711 and 3008...

From my understanding of what I read so far:
- 6
- 6 (all connected to one card) // haven't actually read it, but should work

1 of the screens can be hdmi/dvi or dp
1 of the screens can be dvi or dp
rest needs to be dp or will need an active DP to dvi/vga adapter.
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I thought that they would be including dongles, so that is why I bought 3 wires... I hate dongles or extra stuff that isn't needed. So I got my 3 Mini to Regular DP Cables waiting.
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ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

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On February 25th, ATI announced the long awaited Eyefinity6. By and large the technical specs are the same. The differences are the 2GB of RAM, the six Mini-DP outputs and power consumption. Power has increased from the HD 5870 (188W/27W) to Max 228W and Idle 34W. The box also comes with an array of adapters from Mini-DP to other display types.

Here are a couple of slides from the press deck I was briefed with a couple of weeks ago.



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Since all of my monitors have a DP port, I'm going to be picking up Mini-DP > DP cables from MonoPrice.
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Oh that's interesting, there's only 2 passive adapters since I'm guessing there's still only 2 DVI clocks?
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Oh that's interesting, there's only 2 passive adapters since I'm guessing there's still only 2 DVI clocks?

Correct.
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official release date for this? :shock:
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Benchmark and Review information is embargoed until March 11th. I'd say right about then.
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Does anyone know if Eyefinity 6 will support 5 X 1 or 6 X 1, depending on display resolution. As I understand it, Eyefinity 6 has a 8K X 8K pixel limit when it comes to output resolutions. BTW. This is similar to Dual Quadraplex...
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Silly question maybe.
But are there any displays in existance which can connect to this graphics card without an adapter?
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You can connect directly to a DP monitor via a mini DP to DP cable but I'm a little dissapointed that they didn't include a mini DP to DP converter for each of the six outputs since, the only real reason for going to mini DP is the physical size to enable them to fit the six and still have a grill exhaust. Most monitors sold with a DP port will include a DP to DP cable (I know the Dell U2410 I'm looking at getting do) - just means another purchase.

Perhaps I'll just get three mini DP to DP cables to keep things all the same and neat.

EDIT: Saying that, doesn't seem they are that common... Will have to be converters then...
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Since all of my monitors have a DP port, I'm going to be picking up Mini-DP > DP cables from MonoPrice.


That's what I did already. Good cables!

But to anyone worrying about the purchase of such cables, don't worry its super cheap.
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[quote]Since all of my monitors have a DP port, I'm going to be picking up Mini-DP > DP cables from MonoPrice.


That's what I did already. Good cables!

But to anyone worrying about the purchase of such cables, don't worry its super cheap.
Yeah I got one from monoprice too, wouldn't say it's super cheap (compared to DVI/VGA, thankfully I only needed one), and the white color goes bad against my monitors (all black) and my case (all black) and my dvi cables (all black) but oh well, it's tucked away behind my desk and I barely see it :D.
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So when will we see pre-orders?
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I am wondering if mini dp @ vga will be works @ all 4 connections
like as in normal 5870 (3-eyefinity)
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