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8400 x 1050 possibility? //edit - WORKS @ page 2

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First thing, I am new here so hello to everyone :D
I am new in multi lcd gaming, dont have much time for play, but its very addicting :twisted:

I have 3x22" lcds samsug 226BW, but I will have two more extra 223/226BW for few days
and I was wondering if I can run some games in 8400x1050 it sth like that

I want to use 2x5770 gpus of course NOT crossfired (1st - 3x lcd, 2nd - 2xlcd)

Its that will be possible?
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i think you will need the sixfinity - 5970
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Windows has an "8k limit" on the horizontal pixels. Not sure if this means 8,000 or 8,192, but your scenario is well past both. You can do 5 panels in portrait mode - but not landscape.
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so if any windows will can handle this resolution (theoretically)

I cant play games @ 8400x1050 if i have two/three graphic cards?

5870six card = sucks
will cost more than two 5870 or 5850 for sure
and I have only DVI inputs
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Windows has an "8k limit" on the horizontal pixels. Not sure if this means 8,000 or 8,192, but your scenario is well past both. You can do 5 panels in portrait mode - but not landscape.

He will still need the unreleased Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity6 Edition Video Card
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[quote]Windows has an "8k limit" on the horizontal pixels. Not sure if this means 8,000 or 8,192, but your scenario is well past both. You can do 5 panels in portrait mode - but not landscape.

He will still need the unreleased Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity6 Edition Video Card
Didn't Matrox just release an update to the TH2Go that lets you do this with either a TH2Go and a DH2Go or 2 TH2Go modules hooked up to one card?

Regardless, I would assume that playing games in such a wide aspect ratio would probably be pretty pointless...
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[quote][quote]Windows has an "8k limit" on the horizontal pixels. Not sure if this means 8,000 or 8,192, but your scenario is well past both. You can do 5 panels in portrait mode - but not landscape.

He will still need the unreleased Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity6 Edition Video Card
Didn't Matrox just release an update to the TH2Go that lets you do this with either a TH2Go and a DH2Go or 2 TH2Go modules hooked up to one card?

Regardless, I would assume that playing games in such a wide aspect ratio would probably be pretty pointless...
The problem i see using two triplehead2go (one in duel mode) is that all spanning technologies require the use of the same resolution for each display (meaning you'd have to use a 6x1 or 3x2 setup)

Well actually you may be able to do it using SoftTH. But still, you cant got beyond the 8k limit. So you'll still need the 6 output eyefinity card.
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Windows has an "8k limit" on the horizontal pixels. Not sure if this means 8,000 or 8,192, but your scenario is well past both. You can do 5 panels in portrait mode - but not landscape.


It is 8192x8192. however this limit is not because of Windows, but DirectX 9.
With DirectX 10/11 are higher resolutions possible. So i have heard.
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dude, you better get something more powerful than a 5770 or even two 5770 if your doin eyefinity. i recommend at least a 5870
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Windows has an "8k limit" on the horizontal pixels. Not sure if this means 8,000 or 8,192, but your scenario is well past both. You can do 5 panels in portrait mode - but not landscape.


Disclaimer: I only know about the nVidia side of the fence as far as hardware capabilities. My post is based on that knowledge.

It's not really Windows that sets the limit, it's the video card hardware. On the nVidia side of things 8000, 9000, 200-series all are 8192x8192 maximum. You can find the theoretical maximum that a GPU can handle by downloading the DirectX SDK and using the DXCapsViewer app to check the properties of the hardware you're using. It's not a Windows limitation and it doesn't have to be 8192 maximum either. It's whatever they design the video card to handle. :wink:

As far as 8400 pixel width, that's not going to happen with the hardware that is currently on the market, because no current gaming GPU has been designed to use more than 8192 pixel width.



As far as I know, 5000-series cards can not bridge GPUs/cards to do EyeFinity. My understanding is if you have 2 EyeFinity capable cards, that you only use the port outs on 1 of the cards, not both. EyeFinity and CrossFire I understand is working, but the extra cards are only helping process the graphics, not give extra ports out. (If I'm wrong about this, someone speak up and correct me, as I don't have an EyeFinity setup to definitively confirm this) If you want to run more than three displays, it'll require the EyeFinity6 card, with 6 mini-dp ports.

If you're thinking 5x displays in landscape orientation the largest you can do is 5x 1600x900 or 1600x1200 for a resolution of 8000x900 or 8000x1200. 1680x1050 pushes over the 8192 maximum on current cards. If you want to keep with 1680x1050 panels you could do 5x 1680x1050 in portrait orientation for a resolution of 5250x1680.



Keep in mind that 5 displays in landscape mode is going to require some forethought on the desk you use. It probably would only work on a L or corner desk setup because of the desktop layout required for the displays. I've used a 5x display setup previously using CRTs (softth + th2g analog) and it's pretty impractical for everyday use. Just because you can do something doesn't always mean that you should, or that it's actually practical. I still think 5x 24" LCDs in portrait mode would be great. I'd love to have a 6000x1920 setup. :wink:
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OK this is an idea

5x 1680x1050 in portarit mode
so 5250x1680 res

one 5xxx gpu + display port adapter @ dvi so I will have 3 dvi on gpu + to three DVI matrox triplehead2go from one dvi from gpu card
so from one card I can make 5 monitors

in theory works but practice?
anyone tried :D?


//edit
OR 3 to 5xxx a+ eyefinity
and 2 to second gpu @ softTH

so I will get 5040x1050 + 2x 1680x1050 on sides
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matrox triplehead2go + soft TH works (I saw movie on youtube yestareday)
guy has 5 x screens

on matrox 3 as 1 in extended mode and 2 on sides

so system saw 3 physical monitors only - |side| |main| |side|

so matrox + sofTH works, so in theory eyefinity + softth should works too
but I think I will be pionier in this , need only to wait for active dp @ dvi adapter
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matrox triplehead2go + soft TH works (I saw movie on youtube yestareday)
guy has 5 x screens

on matrox 3 as 1 in extended mode and 2 on sides

so system saw 3 physical monitors only - |side| |main| |side|

so matrox + sofTH works, so in theory eyefinity + softth should works too
but I think I will be pionier in this , need only to wait for active dp @ dvi adapter


I was the original person to initiall do Th2G+SoftTH. I can tell you right now Portrait mode won't work on Th2G. Your theory will work up to 8000 or 8192 pixels wide total but not wider. On the other hand, EyeFinity on 3 screens portrait and SoftTH for the outside 2 "might" work. You'll have to be the first to do it like I did with Th2G a few years ago. There always has to be someone to take the first step with exotic display configurations.

Personally, I'd just wait for the 5870 EyeFinity6 six port card to come to market. Keep it simple, don't limit yourself by using something obscure. EyeFinity+SoftTH is way too obscure to get proper support with anything.
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dont have dp @ dvi adapter yet so I will try quad lcd @ 6720x1050 to test

|1680x1050| + |3360x1050| + |1680+1050|
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quad setup WORKS
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quad setup WORKS


Ofcourse it works, it's under 8k pixel width. :wink:

Here is 7680x1200 I did in 2008:
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looks awesome, but for shooters with crosshair a setup with odd-number monitors is recommended i think, don't you?
Race-simulators should be fine :D
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looks awesome, but for shooters with crosshair a setup with odd-number monitors is recommended i think, don't you?
Race-simulators should be fine :D


Yes, even number display count bezel placement is awkward. :wink:

I'm just itching to see 5x portrait setup working in EyeFinity6. It would be my ideal non-projector based setup.
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8400x1050 @ DX9
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