Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

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boredtotears001
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Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by boredtotears001 »

10.1 has been released and yet there is still no Bezel Management, still no fix for the refresh rate bug some people are getting (myself included) still no profile support, hot-keys are still non functioning... ohhhh but hey 4% performance increase in Crysis! ATI i am disappointed :(
Moezilla
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by Moezilla »

The release notes (PDF) make for grim reading. Check out the end of page 5/start of page 6. Points 2,3 and 5 won't exactly fill people who are on the fence about eyefinity with confidence :shock: . Point 7 is just scary :hide but hopefully will be sorted by a combination of driver tweaks and a new BIOS.

Really looking forward to Bezel Management whenever it shows up.
morfinx
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by morfinx »

# 10.1 is just a standard release to fix up some bugs, but 10.2 and 10.3 will indeed have some major new features

http://twitter.com/catalystmaker

What do you mean by profile support? As in different monitor configurations? I have a couple of profiles, one is EF, the other just regular 3x extended. I can switch them fine with hot-keys, although I usually have to push them more than once. I'm on 9.12 btw.
ndh
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by ndh »

Yep thats what he means, i cant believe its still not fixed nearly 4 months later. takes me about 20 goes and sometimes a reboot to get back into eyefinity. Still no sign of bezel management either. Grey Screen of death getting on my nerves, never had a card that crashed so much, just about ready to RMA it.

Read a lot of bad stuff about ATI drivers in the past, thought it was just Nvidia Fanboy carp, but now i'm starting to believe.
Dave Baumann
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

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Yep thats what he means, i cant believe its still not fixed nearly 4 months later. takes me about 20 goes and sometimes a reboot to get back into eyefinity. Still no sign of bezel management either. Grey Screen of death getting on my nerves, never had a card that crashed so much, just about ready to RMA it

Are you overclocking?
bowenac
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by bowenac »

[quote]Yep thats what he means, i cant believe its still not fixed nearly 4 months later. takes me about 20 goes and sometimes a reboot to get back into eyefinity. Still no sign of bezel management either. Grey Screen of death getting on my nerves, never had a card that crashed so much, just about ready to RMA it

Are you overclocking?

Dave seriously what is going on why are the shortcuts still not fixed? When can I expect them to work? When can we expect to start seeing some form of bezel mgmt?
BigDaddy -CF-
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by BigDaddy -CF- »

Seriously guys you should not have gotten your hopes up for 10.1. Everyone who read through those threads should have known that the list of fixes, and new features were being worked on, and implemented over "the coming months"(Catalyst 10.1, .2, .3, .4). 10.1 being the earliest of those I would automatically think it would be the most about bug fixes and the least about adding new features. Though I am hoping this version will allow my third monitor to work in Ubuntu:). I really don't have too many issues with most of the games I've tried it on.(ME1 & 2 don't work though). I have had some weird issues with corruption while using 10.1 beta 1 with factory bios, and 10.1(with 8.70 packaging version) with updated bios. I've experienced the cursor corruption much more frequently than the whole center screen corruption. The Dirt2 icon corruption was something that popped up only once on 10.1 Beta1 but then wouldn't go away(Which either newest 8.70 package or bios update fixed). While the cursor corruption seemed to occur over 9.12 hotfix, 10.1 beta 1, 10.1(8.70). If you have no idea what I'm talking about look through Ryan's thread over @ pcper
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=468915&page=3
BigDaddy -CF-
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by BigDaddy -CF- »

Be careful what information you base your expectations on! I'd say the best places to get your information on upcoming driver updates are:
http://twitter.com/catalystmaker
and
http://blogs.amd.com/play/category/bloggers/jay-marsden/

I think I remember Kyle of the [H] saying sometime last year to not expect bezel management until the march 2010 timeframe, but things could have easily have changed since then. :)
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Abram
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by Abram »

Awe lame :(

Bezel management and fixed shortcuts are the only two things I'm really aching for. Though I'd take bezel management over anything else at the mo', since FPS games look like ass without it.

But i knew about ATI's and their (sometimes) driver release dog-fuckery when i bought the card, so I guess I'll have to be patient.
fatlazyhomer
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by fatlazyhomer »

Ive noticed overclocking and eyefinity really dont mix well.

Though 4% in crysis is 4% in mechwarriors, so Im happy about that.

Bzl mgmt wouldve been nice too.
morfinx
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by morfinx »

I noticed that the middle EF resolution now has the correct aspect ratio (3150x1680). Great job! Can we get 2700x1440 in there as well?
McKie
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by McKie »

I was hoping Dave b or someone could verify I have the 10.1 drivers. I think I do. because I do see driver package 8.69.

But ever sense I used driver sweeper before installing the 9.12 hot fix . My Catalyst version always show as 9.10 now . The first driver I ever Installed on this machine.

is there some reason why even though the package driver version changes the catalyst version does not change.

this is with the hot fix .




this is what shows with the 10.1 I installed

McKie
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by McKie »

Well , It doesn't matter anymore I guess .

After Installing the 10.1 drivers My dirt 2 benchmarks went from 70 FPS to 30-35 FPS. After trying several things without any Improvement. I Just went back to the 9.12 hotfix and got my 70 FPS back.

Absolutely ridiculous. I was pretty stoked about this upcoming driver thinking it was going to be the big Improvement and instead it was total fail.
Sideeffect
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by Sideeffect »

There are huge complaint threads about these drivers on forums. The old issues like grey screens, VPU recovers, powerplay problems, 2D problems, link failures, corrupt cursors, white lines, loss of signal for DP, refresh rate options, eyefinity resolution options are all still here 3 months after the cards release.

Personally I suffer from 4 of those issues which I could probably fix by updating to a newer release BIOS and changing the 2D clocks and voltages with Radeon BIOS Editor (RBE). I am not happy to do that until RBE support for the 5xxx series is more mature or an official ASUS updated BIOS is released with the displayport fix and powerplay fixes while using multiple monitors.

ATI should be working with distributers such as ASUS to release official sanctioned new BIOS revisions. Leaking unofficial BIOS revisions to 3rd party sites like Techpowerup just doesn't cut it and unfairly puts all the risk on to the user. It seems that drivers are not going to fix these problems and an updated BIOS is required so please provide better support.

Focusing any driver development time on improving Crysis performance when so many issues exist is Bizarre its an old game and was little more than a tech demo in the first place. Hardly anyone is playing that game any more it is only used for benchmarks.

Bezel management is also still not released and is looking unlikely to be released in the 10.2 either as betas are already out. It is looking more and more likely that Nvidia will beat you to it.

The name string is wrong on the official 10.1 and both the beta 10.2 releases. All are identified as 9.0 in CCC it is unprofessional and causes confusion for users.
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

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Well now the saved profile shortcuts and hotkeys DO work for me. Now i can switch from EF to extended with ease. Before it would go to triple-clone , then stop. Now it goes straight to EF. Lovely.

And yay for being able to sue a lower EF resolution while preserving AR.
Dave Baumann
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

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ATI should be working with distributers such as ASUS to release official sanctioned new BIOS revisions.


http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/display-flashing-when-connected-to-displayport.aspx

As per the KB article, please contact ASUS and request a new BIOS if they have not already made one available for download. They are aware of this.

Focusing any driver development time on improving Crysis performance when so many issues exist is Bizarre its an old game and was little more than a tech demo in the first place. Hardly anyone is playing that game any more it is only used for benchmarks.

There are multiple different teams that contribute to a driver who's functions to not cross over - i.e. it would be entirely pointless putting a D3D driver engineer on to a CCC bug!

The name string is wrong on the official 10.1 and both the beta 10.2 releases. All are identified as 9.0 in CCC it is unprofessional and causes confusion for users.


As per the Catalyst Maker Twitter Page Terry has already acknowledge the 9.12/10.1 string issue in he officials and that is being updated. As for leaked beta's, well they are leaked beta's....
bowenac
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by bowenac »

Well now the saved profile shortcuts and hotkeys DO work for me. Now i can switch from EF to extended with ease. Before it would go to triple-clone , then stop. Now it goes straight to EF. Lovely.

And yay for being able to sue a lower EF resolution while preserving AR.



Hey my shortcuts are working now too. This is great, it even remembers where my icons should be.

Thank you ATI for fixing this problem been waiting for this for a while now.

Now everything else to wait for is just an extra bonus :)
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r3v3nant
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by r3v3nant »

pretty anticlimactic driver update.. though I did notice l4d2 was a bit smoother in eyefinity mode... and I do play a bit o that. :)

anyone with crossfire + eyefinity out there, how is performance now? any better? any improvements there?
geniv2
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by geniv2 »

ahh man I was hoping for the bezel management. :doh

got all excited and hard for no reason
thatdude90210
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Re: Nothing different in 10.1 Catalyst

Post by thatdude90210 »

The Eyefinity profile & shortcuts works now, for the most part. Going from extended or dual monitor to Eyefinity SLS works fine, but going from single screen to Eyefinity requires clicking the shortcut or hitting the hotkeys twice.

That's still a welcome improvement.
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