New details about the GF100 Series

[tineras]

Articles from all the usuals:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3721
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gf100-fermi-directx-11,2536.html
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/01/17/nvidias_fermi_gf100_facts_opinions
http://hothardware.com/Articles/NVIDIA-GF100-Architecture-and-Feature-Preview/
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=858

Some Video Demos:
http://hardocp.com/news/2010/01/17/rumored_fermi_videos

I had not seen these. Sorry if the videos are a repost.

[Anprionsa]

I read the one from PC Perspective and it sounds impressive.

[tineras]

This makes me want to purchase the new cards, but then I remember that you need 2 of them for surround gaming. That could be close to $1500 in graphics cards if they are similar in price to the 5970. That gives me a sick feeling.

[Paradigm Shifter]

This makes me want to purchase the new cards, but then I remember that you need 2 of them for surround gaming. That could be close to $1500 in graphics cards if they are similar in price to the 5970. That gives me a sick feeling.

QFT.

[Skid]

Nvidia have finally named the first two cards on the Fermi GF100 chip.
GTX 480 and GTX 470.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/GeForce-GTX-470-480-Fermi,news-32695.html

Seems like they thing there that good that they completely skipped the 300 range, that said they could always release a scaled back version as 300 or use 300 for mobile GPUs but we'll see.

[01Boxer]

They already use the 300 range for old rebranded cards. They went for the 400 series to avoid confusion.

[BHawthorne]

They already use the 300 range for old rebranded cards. They went for the 400 series to avoid confusion.

Just like the 100-series was quietly released as OEM only, IMHO 300-series will probably go that way too.

[McKie]

NVIDIA will have major announcement Monday morning at 9:00 a.m. PST on there twitter and facebook page. I suspect it will be about "Fermi" ,GeForce GTX 480 GTX 470. GF100 chip. Whatever you care to call it.

[g00seberry]

According to this, they're delayed till Q2 now :( ... http://www.3dgameman.com/news/2010/02/19/nvidia-fermi-products-delayed-till-q2

[McKie]

Hum,

From the chief executive officers view, It seems that Nvidia isn't to concerned about the Game enthusiast.

"Nvidia’s chief executive officer did not provide any concrete timeframes for the transition of the whole lineup to the new Fermiarchitecture , but said that since the owners of mainstream and entry-level graphics cards hardly demand new functionality, it is not crucial for Nvidia to update currently available “fabulous” graphics chips. "



"For the entry-level products, the truth is that the new architectures […] are probably not extremely well appreciated anyhow. People, who buy the new architectures, tend to be early adopters and they tend to be the game enthusiasts, workstation designers or creative artists or – there are very specific reasons why it really enhances their experience. Our current-generation GPUs are fabulous and all the things that mainstream consumers would use their computer for. […] I think the mainstream GPUs are really fabulous and has been enhanced recently with some really great features and so my sense is that they are going to continue to do quite nicely in the marketplace."

Kind of a "who cares that it will come out slow"

Enthusiast don't make us to much money anyway and the mainstream are doing just fine with what we got now. To me that's kind of a stupid attitude to the enthusiast that actually in my opinion make the GPU market what it is. dont we play a bbig part on what is popular and what is not. Aside from the actual performance of the card itself.

[Paradigm Shifter]

Hm... I read that differently, McKie... the chap is basically saying that entry level people don't care about new stuff (true, as they're still using Intel Integrated or GeForce 8200/9400 or ATi 2400/3400...)

However, he seems to be implying that the 'high-end' early adopters who usually buy the top-end gaming cards are on par with workstation users... that makes me worry about two things: cost and availability.

What I really want to see are current nVidia cards in stock (most of the e-tailers I look at in the UK have almost all of the GT200 cards on backorder) and I want to see prices drop. When I can find a 5850 for £210, and a 5870 for £285, it's disheartening to find GTX285's for £270-330, and GTX295's for £330-400. Of course, I'm also a bit annoyed that the 4800 series have essentially vanished...

[McKie]

Maybe I'm reading to much into it , I dont know ,but I have also noticed as you said most all current GTX 200 cards are on back order until march. and with very high prices to boot.

I have 1000.00 USD in pocket right now. waiting for the next Gen Nivida card but I am beginning to wonder if that will even cover what they will be charging for an SLI set.

[01Boxer]

I have come across a few articles mentioning extremely low yields and massive technical problems. They may have an axe to grind against Nvidia so i take them with a grain of salt. Even the less pessimistics are expecting high prices and very low availability. One source even mentions that there would only be 5000 to 8000 first generation cards produced.

[g00seberry]

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/20/semiaccurate-gets-some-gtx480-scores/

If any of that's true, it looks rather bad for nVidia ....

[Paradigm Shifter]

If any of half of what has been said about GF100 is true, the chip has problems. nVidia pulling the fake-card-with-wood-screws trick didn't help matters in the slightest. What is really funny is the battle between Charlie Dimerjian and nVidia PR. We'll see when the cards are released who was right... but I'm beginning to think that waiting for GF100 is a bad idea and a waste of time - I think we have another GeForce FX coming...

[McKie]

but I'm beginning to think that waiting for GF100 is a bad idea and a waste of time - I think we have another GeForce FX coming...

I think your right.

Even so. I have heard enough. that if this card was released tomorrow. I would be waiting a while before I would get it. To much of a gamble to be one of the early birds.

[tineras]

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere:

Pics:
http://www.hardmac.com/news/2010/03/04/first-photos-of-the-geforce-gtx-480

(Very Minor and almost useless) Details:
http://www.hardmac.com/news/2010/03/03/first-information-about-geforce-gtx-480

UPDATE: Quite a few more pics at the bottom (from Cebit):
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,705745/Geforce-GTX-480-Fermi-graphics-card-pictured-at-Cebit-Update-More-pictures-retail-box-and-power-consumption/News/

[skipclarke]

Merged into existing thread. The PC Games Hardware box shots show that the 480 will have 1.5GB of RAM.

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,705745/Geforce-GTX-480-Fermi-graphics-card-pictured-at-Cebit-Update-More-pictures-retail-box-and-power-consumption/News/&menu=browser&mode=article&image_id=1255266&article_id=705745&page=1

[BHawthorne]

[tineras]

Well...there goes a crapload of money. And now I need a new power supply. Thanks BHawthorne! :wink:

Is anyone else thankful that respectable graphics card makers are cutting out the cheesy 3D box art? I sure am.