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Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 19:15
by bowenac
Finally got my Fanatec wheel been waiting months and months. Figured I would post some screens, waiting on my adapter from dell so I can run some pc games in Eyefinity.

By the way this wheel is AMAZING I used to have a G25 and this thing blows it out of the water.

If you like racing games you should look into this wheel. Plus this wheel is Multi Platform PC, 360, and PS3.










Forza 3





Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 23:29
by lance_141
thanks for the picture am jalous lol am wainting mine too its so long but am sure you know what it is

do you use 3 xbox to be able to play with 3 screen ??

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 23:36
by ViciousXUSMC
Couldn't post earlier forum was having some issues.

I had to ask, can you explain exactly why and what makes it better than the G25?

I had been keeping an eye out on the G27 its supposed to be much improved over the G25 with the new gears (no grinding) and it has the extra buttons and stuff and I have seen it for like $209.00 at the lowest and that was my goal wheel if I really get into racing.

Right now I use a pretty basic Logitech Momo but it gets the job done.

I have to say the logitech profiler software is awesome and really increases compatibility of the wheels with games that would otherwise not support them, does the Fanatech have similar configurations so you can change the axis of each part of the wheel or some kind of similar software?

But yeah the Turbo S has my interest its belt driven so no grinding like the G27 but I think belts may wear faster than the tried and true gears on the G25/G27 wheel.

Im trying to find a review on the normal vs club sport versions of the fanatech wheels, from what I can tell its just some adjustable force on the brakes and stuff and some extra feedback in the pedals.

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 00:02
by bowenac
Couldn't post earlier forum was having some issues.

I had to ask, can you explain exactly why and what makes it better than the G25?

I had been keeping an eye out on the G27 its supposed to be much improved over the G25 with the new gears (no grinding) and it has the extra buttons and stuff and I have seen it for like $209.00 at the lowest and that was my goal wheel if I really get into racing.

Right now I use a pretty basic Logitech Momo but it gets the job done.

I have to say the logitech profiler software is awesome and really increases compatibility of the wheels with games that would otherwise not support them, does the Fanatech have similar configurations so you can change the axis of each part of the wheel or some kind of similar software?

But yeah the Turbo S has my interest its belt driven so no grinding like the G27 but I think belts may wear faster than the tried and true gears on the G25/G27 wheel.

Im trying to find a review on the normal vs club sport versions of the fanatech wheels, from what I can tell its just some adjustable force on the brakes and stuff and some extra feedback in the pedals.


Where do I start haha.

Yes it does have the similar type of config. It's also wireless to pc. Has a RF Dongle. Here are some screens of the config screens.





Now these are the things I like about the wheel personal preference I guess but really cool features.

PC, PS3, and 360
Adjust settings on the fly on the wheel some of these settings are
degrees 210, 270, 360, 540, 900

Force Feedback 33, 66, 100, off

Rumble Motors 33, 66, 100, off "Now this is one of my fav features the rumble motors work with the ABS"

Abs Now my favorite feature that works with the above motors. You can set this from 0-100 and depending on where it is set at when you hit the brake even on standard pedals the wheel will vibrate at the mark you set it to. I like this feature because I usually play games with ABS off so this way I know how far to press the brake pedal because I can feel when the wheel vibrates from the rumble motors.

Drift off, 1, 2, 3 I think there is now 6 in some games I am not completely sure what it does someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe in a drift it will keep the wheel locked in a drift somehow knows haha thats what it felt like to me.

The force feedback on this wheel is a lot stronger then my old G25. It is very quit too. It just feels natural. The rim is thicker which I like. The shifter is rock solid and not sloppy.

Now the difference between the standard pedals and the Clubsport are standard are plastic and the clubsport are metal. I do not have the clubsport but I wish I did. They are adjustable you can take the actual pedal off and screw it back on where you want for like easier heel toe. The clubsports also have a brake cell hooked up to them. They can also be adjusted. I will post a picture of both pedals so you can see the difference.

Standard Pedals



Clubsport



I hope this answers some of your questions. You will not regret getting this wheel if you decide to.

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 01:04
by suiken_2mieu
Does the force feedback work no matter what platform you play on? I was looking at this because I do a lot of PC racing as well as xbox. I have the Microsoft and was kinda pissed when i got home and couldn't get FF on my PC.

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 01:08
by ViciousXUSMC
the only axis option I saw was the combine pedals, thats the only flaw I see.

I have had a few games that I had to actually change the axis of the momo for it to work. Say the pedal is the RZ axis or something so I had to change it to a Rotation axis.

I suppose this is not a big deal for those who are only playing mainstream games but for me I like to play some smaller titles that may not have the kind of settings needed to support the fanatec wheel at default.

No time soon am I upgrading my wheel but I will look at the price of the fanatec and decide then when the time comes if something better has not come along by then.

I know the fanatec has no deadspots for force feedback and 3 motors vs the 2 on the G25/G27 so that may be good, but the 2 logitech motors may be a lot stronger so # of motors alone is not a valid way to represent the power of the feedback. Even my lowly Momo has yanked me quite hard when I get a big bump, Burnout Paradise Ultimate Box has some really great force feedback programmed into it. When you hit something you feel it, and when you do stuff like roll on train tracks it really feels like it :D

I played Dirt 2 all day today, was fun but man I suck at it I think I did worse with the wheel than I did with the 360 controller. Definitly not a petal to the metal game lots of throttle control required.

My favorite 3 right now

> Dirt 2
> Need For Speed Shift
> Burnout Paradise Ultimate Box

So as you can see I dont really have the hardcore sim games on my list. What games do you like to play the most with your wheel?

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 01:21
by bowenac
Well I guarantee that the force feedback on the Fanatec is STRONGER then the logitech wheels I used to have a G25 so....

I have played both Dirt 2 and Shift and there is a pre set for the Fanatec wheel.

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 03:19
by 01Boxer
How do the Fanatec regular pedals compare to the G25's ? Is the shifter better as well?

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 03:40
by Racer_S
I love this wheel... I had a chance to try it when I did a project for Forza 3.

Its very smooth and quiet but strong, I have a G25 and its night and day compared to this wheel.

Lucky you for getting one, I'm totally jealous :)

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 03:59
by BHawthorne
This is my one xmas present the family is buying for me. I bought the clubsport pedals a week or so ago. They're to arrive on the 10th. I have UPS shipping info on it. The Turbo S wheel package I just put in for purchase 2 days ago. No shipping confirmation on that yet. It's good to see these finally shipping. Digging around, it looks like some people have been waiting months on pre-order for these wheels. I'm glad I'm only now buying it, so I didn't have to wait all that time for production.

I'm making a 986/996 racing simpit using this hardware and pulling a composite mold of the center console and dash from the 986 I have in the garage. I picked up an instrument cluster on ebay, so I need to figure out how to interface that. Interfacing the cluster is going to be a PITA, but worse case I just gut it and put in servos to run the gauges. I'd rather figure out how to interface it though. It should turn out to be a pretty bada$$ racing simpit once done. Now just to learn how not to suck at driving online and I'm all set. :lol:

The only downside about the Turbo S is that it's a limited production run item. It's simply not going to ever have the adoption rate of the G25/27. That means most of the aftermarket mods will remain with the logitech users. I also hear the design of the shifters is weak. I'll most likely upgrade shifters come b-day if it's true. The Lightning SST looks great, but if Fanatec came out with a Clubsport shifter that was decent price that wouldn't be bad either.


:rockout

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 04:35
by bowenac
Does the force feedback work no matter what platform you play on? I was looking at this because I do a lot of PC racing as well as xbox. I have the Microsoft and was kinda pissed when i got home and couldn't get FF on my PC.


Yes it works on all platforms. The strength depends on the game and how they developed it into the game. I know like in Forza 3 it is not as stong as say some pc games but you really know it is there it is still very stong but on pc games I have to turn it down to like 66 just saying.

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 04:37
by bowenac
This is my one xmas present the family is buying for me. I bought the clubsport pedals a week or so ago. They're to arrive on the 10th. I have UPS shipping info on it. The Turbo S wheel package I just put in for purchase 2 days ago. No shipping confirmation on that yet. It's good to see these finally shipping. Digging around, it looks like some people have been waiting months on pre-order for these wheels. I'm glad I'm only now buying it, so I didn't have to wait all that time for production.

I'm making a 986/996 racing simpit using this hardware and pulling a composite mold of the center console and dash from the 986 I have in the garage. I picked up an instrument cluster on ebay, so I need to figure out how to interface that. Interfacing the cluster is going to be a PITA, but worse case I just gut it and put in servos to run the gauges. I'd rather figure out how to interface it though. It should turn out to be a pretty bada$$ racing simpit once done. Now just to learn how not to suck at driving online and I'm all set. :lol:

The only downside about the Turbo S is that it's a limited production run item. It's simply not going to ever have the adoption rate of the G25/27. That means most of the aftermarket mods will remain with the logitech users. I also hear the design of the shifters is weak. I'll most likely upgrade shifters come b-day if it's true. The Lightning SST looks great, but if Fanatec came out with a Clubsport shifter that was decent price that wouldn't be bad either.


:rockout



Nice you will have to update this thread when you get everything going. Like I said before I have had a G25 before and I prefer everything about this wheel. I do like the shifter a lot more as well seems way more solid the G25 was really sloppy to me.

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 04:38
by bowenac
How do the Fanatec regular pedals compare to the G25's ? Is the shifter better as well?



They are good the Gas pedal is very soft but other then that I like them. Someday I will prolly upgrade to the clubsport pedals though.

Again personal preference but I like the fanatec shifter better as well.

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 05:01
by njracer
nice setup you got there bowenac.

i'm a big racing fan and love simulations and the occasional arcade racer. must say dirt 2 is amazing. absolutely amazing. i love the rally racing in there. feels better then rbr imho. rbr is a little to hard, in an unrealistic way. the car doesn't react quite right. dirt 2 even for an arcade game is very impressive. especially the rally aspect of the game.

favorite games right now as far as racing games go:

iRacing-hands down the best most authentic racing simulator on the market. only for the hardcore

race07/evo/race on/stcc-still in my old league with my old buddies. game is definitely feeling its age.

dirt 2-awesome. just pure fun and a nice challenge when you're really pushing it. i'm playing with 1080° of rotation on my wheel and it feels great believe it or not, have to really work the wheel like the real guys. i'm loving this game way more then i thought i would be.

my equipment for racing:

Frex Simwheel
X-Sim g-force seat that i built
ECCI-3 pedals
Sequential shifter with button box. ripped the sequential shifter out of a cheap madcatz wheel and wired them up to a leo bodnar button board.

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 05:10
by njracer
Getting the nvidia 3d vision bundle kit tomorrow. Bought it with the black Friday deal with $100 off so i'll let you know how good it is with racing games tomorrow. If its as good as i hope i'm gonna get a projector and add it in my cockpit for a nice size immersive display with 3d. Should kick ass





Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 05:32
by ViciousXUSMC
Not to derail the discussion but seems kinda valid to mention that the G27 can be had for just under $200 w/ free shipping right now at Amazon due to this 20% off logitech rebate they have. Thats a good sounding deal almost tempted me :D

Do you think the G25 pedals are better than the non club sport Fanatec pedals? and I guess you can just upgrade your pedals down the line without needing a new wheel right?

Im definitely not looking at the G25 as an upgrade from the Momo its lack of buttons alone would keep me from choosing it (on the wheel) but the fact the better G27 is out there now for about the same price is even less of a reason to consider the g25 for anything.

I wish there was somewhere that had a G27 and a Fanatec on display to use, id like to see how the new conical gears on the G27 compare to the belt drive of the Fanatec.

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 06:26
by bowenac
Not to derail the discussion but seems kinda valid to mention that the G27 can be had for just under $200 w/ free shipping right now at Amazon due to this 20% off logitech rebate they have. Thats a good sounding deal almost tempted me :D

Do you think the G25 pedals are better than the non club sport Fanatec pedals? and I guess you can just upgrade your pedals down the line without needing a new wheel right?

Im definitely not looking at the G25 as an upgrade from the Momo its lack of buttons alone would keep me from choosing it (on the wheel) but the fact the better G27 is out there now for about the same price is even less of a reason to consider the g25 for anything.

I wish there was somewhere that had a G27 and a Fanatec on display to use, id like to see how the new conical gears on the G27 compare to the belt drive of the Fanatec.


I think the belt drive is always going to have it hands down. There is no dead zone. It is quite and I know the belt should last a very long time. Just think about how long belts last on a car and @ what RPM they are at. I don't see the belt going out any time soon and don't know if I would put that many hours into this wheel. I would like to think I would hehe.

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 07:03
by BHawthorne


I think the belt drive is always going to have it hands down. There is no dead zone. It is quite and I know the belt should last a very long time. Just think about how long belts last on a car and @ what RPM they are at. I don't see the belt going out any time soon and don't know if I would put that many hours into this wheel. I would like to think I would hehe.


From what I understand, Fanatec used readily available belts in the design that can be purchased if they do wear. It's not a proprietary belt design. Here is the link:
http://www.911wheel.de/?q=faq/can-belts-be-stretched

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 21:33
by ViciousXUSMC
Wow just now saw the price of the wheel.

The main site was 350 uro not USD and with a 1.5x conversion thats over 2x more than the G27 and they say they will not ship to the states.

I found another fanatec site that has preorder and ships to the states and its $350 usd but thats still a stiff bill. Says limited edition too so they are trying to make you buy it in fear that it wont be there later.

I was comparing the wheel to the G27 thinking t may cost a bit more but for nearly double my comparison is over :D its time to keep an eye out for G27 deals, well actually now is the time its on sale for less than $200 shipped but not sure if I am ready to make that purchase just yet.

At full retail of $300 USD for the G27 I think I would spend the extra $50 for the Fanatec for sure since I already have a logitech product.

Aww man im confused lol. Good inside sim racing review of the fanatec wheel.

They hit it for poor clamp and shifter mount, soft gas pedal, bad plug & play vs the G25 (this review was before the G27), and price. But liked the quiet no gear operation, force feedback and smoothness of the wheel. Oh and no pedal shifters, just buttons.

I guess I'll keep an open mind on it still I want to see just how quiet and smooth the new gears are on the G27 and if I find they are good I think I'll go that route.

Re: Fanatec Wheel and some Screens

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 22:19
by Aexrael
Plastic pedals sounds kinda meh on paper, how do they work in reality though?

Looking at prices, the Logitech G27 and Fanatec Porsche 911 Turbo S Wheel EU are more or less the same price over here.