Need For Speed Shift

Post by **maherie** » 28 Oct 2009, 09:35

So I bought it, played about an hour of it, and it sucks. There is something wrong with the way it plays/controls. I've only used the keyboard, and I'll try it with the gamepad, but wow so far the delay on the turning is pathetic and the difference between pro and experienced is way too big, expereinced is okay, but seems to slow me down, the pro is just insane.

Ranting cos I can. But what a waste of money the game so far is.

YouTube · Post by **ViciousXUSMC** » 28 Oct 2009, 10:02

Plays good with my wheel so I imagine you will be good when you use a controller with analog axis. Grid wins the award for worst controlling game for me :D

Even with a controller I never managed well in that game.

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 28 Oct 2009, 11:11

Took me a while, but I kinda like the controls (keyboard here). Grip & traction resistance (or whatchamacallit) make me really feel the road & velocity of the car. Satisfyingly challenging, I'd say. Playing with my X360 gamepad is clearly easier, but I prefer the keyboard for Precision driving nonetheless. Pads are for tards anyway.

Assists aside, car upgrades are obviously crucial for better handling. I just got my second Works upgrade and I really like the game. So give it another couple hours maybe ? :lol:

skeeder · Post by **skeeder** » 28 Oct 2009, 16:02

I'm with maharie, shift sucks. I snagged Undercover and it reminds me more of the Most Wanted area. Lets just be honest. GRID came, they saw, they conquered and NFS is just the lame big name.

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 28 Oct 2009, 21:13

I only played the demo of Shift, but the more I played it the less impressed I became. Tried it with keyboard, 360 controller and Logitech G25.

I've come to the conclusion that I need a proper wheel for Forza 2/3 as well - I'm absolute pants with a controller. :( And the 360 doesn't like the G25. :(

Post by **maherie** » 29 Oct 2009, 05:40

I'll suffer through it untill I get some more upgrades etc etc but so far it's balls. However the graphics are nice to look at.

bleco · Post by **bleco** » 29 Oct 2009, 19:03

Try it with MODS ...

It changes the gameplay completely...

You can for exemple:

- Fix the stupid AI + grip level
- Remove the blur at high speed
- Remove the virtual wheel and hands
- Remove the bloom effect

There are tons of mods already for this game...

With the 4 mods mentioned here for me the game is much more enjoyable...

packerfan · Post by **packerfan** » 29 Oct 2009, 21:30

My curiosity is if they got rid of rubber banding or not.

Effectively this was rubberbanding in need for speed most wanted

I cause a car to crash in to another car, hit the NOS and get going 200 and leave them 2000 feet in the dust, somehow they manage to catch up all 200 feet through hairpin turns and pass me on a straight at a faster speed than I can hit the NOS to.

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 29 Oct 2009, 22:36

Ah, yes, isn't it great when the AI cheats? :P :twisted:

Tanuki · Post by **Tanuki** » 30 Oct 2009, 01:24

I cause a car to crash in to another car, hit the NOS and get going 200 and leave them 2000 feet in the dust, somehow they manage to catch up all 200 feet through hairpin turns and pass me on a straight at a faster speed than I can hit the NOS to.

Can't you launch a red turtle shell or something?

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 30 Oct 2009, 09:57

Don't blame Shift on that, I didn't experience obvious cases of rubberbanding yet. The AI cheats in Grid and probably in most racers too anyway. Lazy devs call it "adaptative challenge" and pretend to think this is just what we solo gamers want... The only difference is how subtle the cheating is. On a scale of 1 to 10, I think rubberbanding in Shift & Grid would be well below 5, while NFS Underground (my only previous NFS) would score a solid 8 and Fuel would hit a 12 :lol:

Post by **suiken_2mieu** » 30 Oct 2009, 16:01

I only played the demo of Shift, but the more I played it the less impressed I became. Tried it with keyboard, 360 controller and Logitech G25.

I've come to the conclusion that I need a proper wheel for Forza 2/3 as well - I'm absolute pants with a controller. :( And the 360 doesn't like the G25. :(

XCM makes and adapter for ps3 to xbox 360 and it works well.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/xcms-84-99-cross-fire-adapter-for-xbox-360-ships-today/

I doubt you will get force feed back though.

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 30 Oct 2009, 16:15

I'll investigate, thanks. :)

Post by **maherie** » 31 Oct 2009, 03:18

wow what a diiference the 360 controller makes. holy shit. its so different. I still fee like a tard, but it's making the game enjoyable.

I'll also check out the mods. Thanks for the heads up, I never really mod games too much, but this looks like a no-brainer!

Post by **thales100** » 01 Nov 2009, 22:34

Sound quality.

Yes, its really excellent.

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 02 Dec 2009, 10:55

Patch 1.02 + DLC is out (135 MB).
http://needforspeed.com/web/nfs/downloads

atledreier · Post by **atledreier** » 02 Dec 2009, 22:21

This patch solved all my issues!

Performance is increased ten-fold, and I'm not exaggerating! Went rom stuttery, unplayable, laggy 30ish low detail hell to triplehead, all maxed, butter smooth glory!

The handling issues is resolved, the input lag is gone, and all is well!

Back to the track I go!

oh, my system:
Q9550@3,4
4Gb DDR2
2x HD4890
Running 4380x768, 4xAA, 60fps

YouTube · Post by **ViciousXUSMC** » 02 Dec 2009, 22:57

This patch solved all my issues!

Performance is increased ten-fold, and I'm not exaggerating! Went rom stuttery, unplayable, laggy 30ish low detail hell to triplehead, all maxed, butter smooth glory!

The handling issues is resolved, the input lag is gone, and all is well!

Back to the track I go!

oh, my system:
Q9550@3,4
4Gb DDR2
2x HD4890
Running 4380x768, 4xAA, 60fps

Hmm I was able to get about 30fps maxed out with motion blur off but I did get a dip here and there in a very few spots. Wonder if my performance will go up also with a single 5870.

Edit: jeese anybody have some patch notes? I cant find them anywhere.

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 03 Dec 2009, 00:14

Patch notes :
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/333357.page

Oh wow, I thought the bonus cars would be for quick races only... But they get added for free to your cars, and can be used in career mode - and have upgrades ! :w00t

Post by **maherie** » 03 Dec 2009, 05:38

installing this now.

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