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Some of the threads have places that you can get active adaptors, but it is all over the place. So post here where you can buy them and in what countries they send to.

TESTED and CONFIRMED below:

1. DELL USA, only to USA. As the image below DP-to-DVI.
2. Amazon.com, only to USA Note there are 5 merchants on Amazon.com who also sell it, at least one specifies International shipping. As the image below DP-to-DVI.
3. Apple do a mini-DP to DVI adaptor, so a mini-DP to DP passive adaptor also required. Available at most international Apple online stores. However this adaptor has had some problems, buyer beware (check out the reviews at your Apple online store first!) NOTE: confirmed working with this Mini-DP to DP adaptor.
4. This Dutch Company will ship internationally, select the correct options for Europe, send them an email for further afield. See post 6. As the image below DP-to-DVI.
5. Sewell Direct, all countries As the image below DP-to-DVI.
5. HP have a HP branded version, search for: HP DisplayPort to Dual Link DVI-D Cable: Reference No. NR078AA. HP reseller Bechtle also carry it.

Also Tested and works DP to VGA adapters, CHEAPER FTW!

NOT TESTED and UNKNOWN if they work below:

6. EDIT: the USB appears to be for audio, unlikely that it will work, see the monoprice below which does NOT work* see post 11 below. A mini-DP to HDMI adaptor that could work; although not tested. They should soon be shipping internationally; send them an email. Be good for the mini-DP out that is on the x2 version (in the shots we have seen so far).

TESTED and KNOWN to NOT WORK below:

7. Tested USB adaptor, butUSB does audio only here, cheap from monoprice

SOME SOUND ADVICE:

The adaptor needs to look like:



If it looks like:



It isn't going to work. No matter what they say, to be a proper active adaptor, it needs to have that box and the USB lead (or some other method of power)... like the top pic.

THE WHY's OF ACTIVE ADAPTORS
VGA, DVI, and HDMI connections all require a timing signal generated external to the video signal. A monitor needs this timing signal to function properly.

The ATI 5870 only has two timing signal generators, even though is has four outputs: 2xDVI, 1xHDMI, and 1xDP (DisplayPort). Thus, in order to use three monitors with this GPU, one needs to utilize the DP connection.

There are actually two types of DP connections: DP and DP+. DP+ connections are capable of passing through signals for other connection types (such as DVI and VGA). DP-only connections cannot do this. If one were to connect an inexpensive passive DP-to-DVI adapter to a DP+ port and a DVI monitor, it would work properly. But if one tries the same thing with a DP-only port, it will not work. This is a why an "active" adapter is needed; it actively transcodes a DP signal into DVI (or some other connection standard). These adapters must be powered; most (all?) use a simple USB connection.

The six-output card that is coming soon will have two DP+ connections and four DP connections. That means that it could require up to four active adapters if one intends to connect six monitors all without DP inputs. Right now the best adapter available seems to be manufactured by BizLink (which is also being rebranded by Dell and Accell). It costs ~$100 + tax/shipping, which is clearly not cheap. The kicker is that this is an adapter that goes from DP to dual-link DVI, supporting resolutions up to 2560x1600. Such a device is necessary if one is planning on connecting 30" monitors. However, the vast majority of 3+ monitor users only need an adapter that moves from DP to single-link DVI. In theory this should be much cheaper, and ATI is looking to source such a device with a target price of $35.

The EyeFinity developer, SunSp*t, has said that the goal for EyeFinity was to inject the technology into an ATI line of GPUs as a value-added feature (meaning if it doesn't get used by a consumer then the product is still good) for no extra cost (which is why all of the 5000-series GPU's DP connections aren't DP+).


So far EyeFinity is looking to be not quite as promising as the initial outlook suggested. There is no Windows XP support. There is no multiple-orientation support (such as portrait-landscape-portrait for 30" 2560x1600 monitor surrounded by two 1200x1600 portrait monitors). Crossfire and EyeFinity do not (yet) work together. As advertised, bezel management features do not yet exist in any Windows OS. However, the development team seems committed to improving the product, and already it can largely do what the Matrox TripleHead2Go does.

It is likely that within the year EyeFinity will surpass all of the TripleHead2Go's capabilities and then some, plus it will find its way into many more homes because it is a 3+ monitor solution that is native to the GPU. Another nice thing is that this technology allows a user to buy monitors one at a time and increase screen real estate gradually without having to purchase any other hardware. Don't jump in without doing your research, however; if you do right now you are an early adopter and should expect some hassles.
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Might be a good idea to sticky this thread.
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Sewelldirect.com. Sell to U.S. and overseas through International Checkout.
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Sewelldirect.com. Sell to U.S. and overseas through International Checkout.
Cheers, added.
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I made it an Announcement.

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I was sure Amazon.com shipping internationally... :?
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4. This Dutch Company will ship internationally, select the 15.50 option for Europe, send them an email for further afield.

Options for international (EU) shipping have been added to the site. For shipping to destinations outside of EU, send an email prior to the order.
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I was sure Amazon.com shipping internationally... :?
Amazon do, but on certain items (lke the cheap pre-order Win7, for example) you get a 'can't ship to this address' error message.
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[quote]4. This Dutch Company will ship internationally, select the 15.50 option for Europe, send them an email for further afield.

Options for international (EU) shipping have been added to the site. For shipping to destinations outside of EU, send an email prior to the order.Edited the Kabeltje entry, thanks.
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I'd suggest starting a second list under the first that shows pictures of adapters known not to work. That information is just as important as knowing where to buy the right adapter imho.
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what about this one guys ?

http://www.kanexlive.com/products/item.aspx?id=3495
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what about this one guys ?

http://www.kanexlive.com/products/item.aspx?id=3495

Should work, looks a lot like the Apple one but to HDMI. That would be good for my future x2 which only has mini-DP. Cheers

I asked:
I am from a forum that are looking for ACTIVE displayport to HDMI/DVI adaptors. This is for the new ATi video cards which can run PC games across 3 screens. The DP out on these cards does not have the clock which allows the use of passive HDMI/DVI adaptors and has to use an active adaptor such as this:
http://www.amazon.com/Accell-UltraAV-B087B-002B-DisplayPort-Dual-Link/dp/B002ISVI3U/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1254420956&sr=8-3-spell.
The Apple mini-DP to Dual Link DVI adaptor also works, with the USB providing power and clock timing. Would your product work (mini-DP to HDMI with audio)? Or does the USB ONLY provide the audio to the HDMI rather than the clock?

They said:
The Kanex Mini DP adapter w/ Digital audio uses the USB for it to power it
up. The Kanex Mini DP adapter w/ USB audio uses the USB to power the adapter
as well as outputs analog/stereo audio through the HDMI port.

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So I don't know if it will work LOL, buyer beware ;)
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I feel that I should warn that the service isn't very good with sewelldirect.com. A week after ordering it isn't sent yet and could be a couple more days. They already sent one to someone else in Australia with a later order number than mine which means first come first served means nothing to them.
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[quote]what about this one guys ?

http://www.kanexlive.com/products/item.aspx?id=3495

Should work, looks a lot like the Apple one but to HDMI. That would be good for my future x2 which only has mini-DP. Cheers

I asked:
I am from a forum that are looking for ACTIVE displayport to HDMI/DVI adaptors. This is for the new ATi video cards which can run PC games across 3 screens. The DP out on these cards does not have the clock which allows the use of passive HDMI/DVI adaptors and has to use an active adaptor such as this:
http://www.amazon.com/Accell-UltraAV-B087B-002B-DisplayPort-Dual-Link/dp/B002ISVI3U/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1254420956&sr=8-3-spell.
The Apple mini-DP to Dual Link DVI adaptor also works, with the USB providing power and clock timing. Would your product work (mini-DP to HDMI with audio)? Or does the USB ONLY provide the audio to the HDMI rather than the clock?

They said:
The Kanex Mini DP adapter w/ Digital audio uses the USB for it to power it
up. The Kanex Mini DP adapter w/ USB audio uses the USB to power the adapter
as well as outputs analog/stereo audio through the HDMI port.

Thank You,

Kanex Live
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So I don't know if it will work LOL, buyer beware ;)

I sent another inquiry to Kanex tonight to have them elaborate on the adapter. I specifically asked them if it actively transcodes a DP signal to HDMI using a powered chip in the adapter. Hopefully they'll have an answer tomorrow for me via email.
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hey guys...i found another DP to dual DVI adaptor made by HP..

Check it out...looks pricey though...around 125 euro...and still not sure if it works...

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ie/en/sm/WF06c/A1-329290-64265-3965876-3965876-3929966-3929969.html


tis funny..here is another hp link with the usb powered plug

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06c/A10-51210-64265-3965876-64265-3929966-3929967-3929969.html
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found some more interesting information....

you might notice on the ati website that they have some comments regarding PC's with the FIrePro or workstation type gpu's and how the cards can be found in selected dells...yer...'

also, i found a spec sheet on a firepro card its states that the DP to Dual link DVI is avaliable as an acessory...its nice of them to tell us this up front now isnt it....and do the firepro people get told straight up to use this bit of kit whereas the poor old gamers just get forgotton??...aaaw

http://www.jozun.com/bulletin/V7750.pdf

actually if you do a nicely refined search minusing mini and apple you will come across all the high nvidia quadro and ati varieties all pointing to a HP or Dell adaptor...avaliable as accessories...

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That HP Looks like the Bizlink/Dell/that other company I cant remember one, except its cables seem a bit longer but the case is identical.
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Hi Guys

I can confirm I have tested the Display Port to DVI adaptors we sell here and none of them work with 3 screens enabled, I have contacted ATI to find out if we can get hold of the powered Display Port adaptors so if / when they get back to me I will let you know :D

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Damn, when I saw you'd posted, Ben, I was hoping it was a "We Have Proper Active Adaptors In Stock!" announcement. ;)
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Well its not all bad news, ATI have responded to my email it has been forwarded to their R&D department and they are looking into availabilty of the DP Powered Adaptors for UK customers so we can use them in our 3XS systems....we have a system going into review soon and if ATI can come up with a supplier for us we will be able to offer the Eyefinity 3XS System we are hoping for...

I have also emailed this exact thread to them so they can see how diusgruntled the majority of us are with the lack of these DP Adaptors in the UK

watch this space !


But not this weekend as I am having a well deserved weekend off :D
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That's good. Pity that it's taking so long, but hey we can't have everything. I frequently think that the UK is some weird sort of technological backwater when it comes to some devices.

Enjoy your weekend off! ;) :D
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