5870/5850 pricing and release date

neosin · Post by **neosin** » 15 Sep 2009, 14:47

sorry if this has been mentioned but there is about 50 pages of posts to go through and i've gone through about 20 without any luck so here is the question.

any confirmed pricing?

is the confirmed release date 22nd sept? in 7 days?

thank you

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 15 Sep 2009, 14:50

No pricing confirmation, AFAIK. 'Around' $300-400, dependent on who you talk to on a forum, I think, for a 5870. If it's around $300, then we're all laughing again at fast, powerful cards and nVidia has to worry about the costs of GT300 like they did the costs of GT200.

neosin · Post by **neosin** » 15 Sep 2009, 14:59

i mean it's what 7 days from release and no confirmed pricing from ati kinda sux >_<

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 15 Sep 2009, 15:09

Fairly standard now.

ATi don't want competitors to know how much they're gonna charge, until it's already a fait accompli. Since the HD2900 debacle, ATi have learned to play cards close until the last possible second. While it means a lot of FUD going around and no serious hype generation, it can mean a completely unexpected knockout blow if competing products have misjudged how they're targeting the market.

whismerhill · Post by **whismerhill** » 15 Sep 2009, 15:54

Fairly standard now.

ATi don't want competitors to know how much they're gonna charge, until it's already a fait accompli. Since the HD2900 debacle, ATi have learned to play cards close until the last possible second. While it means a lot of FUD going around and no serious hype generation, it can mean a completely unexpected knockout blow if competing products have misjudged how they're targeting the market.

yes and also the fact that AMD took the direction probably contributes to that fact too

Post by **BHawthorne** » 15 Sep 2009, 22:16

Also, people need to have patience or they're going to incur the "early adopter's tax". Supply and demand means initial price gouging on new products regardless of brand. Let the dust settle, let the in-store stock stabilize and buy it at a reasonable price a few weeks after the real launch occurs. You'll also have the luxury of knowing all of the "early adopters" issues and solutions without having to experience them first hand.

geniv2 · Post by **geniv2** » 16 Sep 2009, 00:02

Also, people need to have patience or they're going to incur the "early adopter's tax". Supply and demand means initial price gouging on new products regardless of brand. Let the dust settle, let the in-store stock stabilize and buy it at a reasonable price a few weeks after the real launch occurs. You'll also have the luxury of knowing all of the "early adopters" issues and solutions without having to experience them first hand.

Thats what I'm gonna do. but I have a "deal alert" for "ati 5870" on slickdeals so if any deal comes out for it I will get an email alery and probably order.

If paying slightly higher price (within reasonable range) means I can be the first one to get it it's not that bad.

I see it this way... I COULD wait say a month after it's release to get it cheaper

BUT. I can also get it at launch and play slightly higher price. I see it as "0 day delivery". And I will be enjoying 1920x1200x3 at triple 24" for a month while the rest of you guys drool over it :P

What is the price of such pleasure worth? It sucks seeing something cool come and having to wait.

Post by **BHawthorne** » 16 Sep 2009, 12:45

[quote]Also, people need to have patience or they're going to incur the "early adopter's tax". Supply and demand means initial price gouging on new products regardless of brand. Let the dust settle, let the in-store stock stabilize and buy it at a reasonable price a few weeks after the real launch occurs. You'll also have the luxury of knowing all of the "early adopters" issues and solutions without having to experience them first hand.

Thats what I'm gonna do. but I have a "deal alert" for "ati 5870" on slickdeals so if any deal comes out for it I will get an email alery and probably order.

If paying slightly higher price (within reasonable range) means I can be the first one to get it it's not that bad.

I see it this way... I COULD wait say a month after it's release to get it cheaper

BUT. I can also get it at launch and play slightly higher price. I see it as "0 day delivery". And I will be enjoying 1920x1200x3 at triple 24" for a month while the rest of you guys drool over it :P

What is the price of such pleasure worth? It sucks seeing something cool come and having to wait.

True enough. In my case it's more about setting up a price alert for short-throw projector deals though. My exponentially largest cost will be the projectors for my new simpit setup. I'd rather get them at $599 than $899. It gives me time to ebay off a bunch of "crap" I've been accumulating for awhile now to help offset it some though. If I can recoup about $150-$250 per Matrox GXM box I have sitting around, it'll go a long way towards making those projectors affordable. I'm also going to ebay off my G92 based folding@home farm.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 17 Sep 2009, 22:14

Possible Euro pricing:

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20276

approx 285 pounds

morolen · Post by **morolen** » 18 Sep 2009, 00:22

no small amount, though about what was expected or only slightly higher.

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 18 Sep 2009, 12:18

Hm.

I don't think it'll be £285.

I think it'll be £300, which they'll justify based on the 'weak pound'. (Sterling is currently at approximately the same level it was in the late '90's against the USD...) the Euro is kept artificially strong because Brussels can't afford for it to fail. Amusingly, some of what keeps it so strong is the tithe the UK pays to the EU for membership.

Having said that, at that price, I'll wait a while. I was hoping for closer to £250.

I think we can look forward to the 5870X2 (when it finally shows up) to be in the £500-550 region. Unless nVidia come out with something amazing with GT300 which causes a price war.

neosin · Post by **neosin** » 18 Sep 2009, 14:55

f hadn't sold my triplehead for about $240 usd and my gtx 260+ for $160 i'd be screaming RIPP OFF LOL!

but yeh, this is pretty much a free upgrade for me ^_^ + i can finally ultilise my 3x24inches at 3x1920x1200 :)

woooot!

X-Warrior · Post by **X-Warrior** » 18 Sep 2009, 17:05

€320 seems reasonable. From my memory, new cards costing €600 and up isn't that far back in history.

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 18 Sep 2009, 17:10

That would have been the GTX280, before nVidia realised that they weren't selling because they'd totally misjudged the market.

njracer · Post by **njracer** » 19 Sep 2009, 19:29

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/9/15/radeon-5700-pricing-revealed2c-end-for-hd4800-draws-near.aspx

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 20 Sep 2009, 13:14

Take anything Fudzilla/BSN/SemiAccurate/Inq says with a heavy does of cynicism.

Frequently I think they work news stories on the 'spray and pray' method: if they can put enough stories out with enough guesses, they'll get it right occasionally.

Post by **BHawthorne** » 20 Sep 2009, 19:12

Take anything Fudzilla/BSN/SemiAccurate/Inq says with a heavy does of cynicism.

Frequently I think they work news stories on the 'spray and pray' method: if they can put enough stories out with enough guesses, they'll get it right occasionally.

I liken tech news to the monkey cage at the zoo. They fling feacies around and once in awhile it sticks. And what is doubly bad is they source each other as legitimate sources of news. They feed off of eachother's trash. It's hard to find unbias tech news anymore without catching their hands in the cookie jar via ad revenue or free review samples coloring reviews. I was especially humored by reading SemiAccurate the other day with 3 ad banners on the particular articles I read and every single one of those ad banners were paid for by AMD. Matter of fact, I've yet to see a banner not paid for by AMD on SemiAccurate lol. While someone has to pay the bills, one would think they could diversify their banner revenue a bit. It looks quite damning as far as bias.

As for pricing I'm still trying to decide when I'll purchase a 5870 Six. If it's under $450 initially I'll most likely pull the trigger on the buy at Newegg.

Post by **Gilly** » 21 Sep 2009, 22:00

put that idea on hold...

http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20337

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 21 Sep 2009, 22:40

Yeah if demand is up/supply low, definitely best to wait a while for the price to drop.

Post by **BHawthorne** » 22 Sep 2009, 05:13

put that idea on hold...

http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20337

Then just buy the card from the Dell online store? I have no real brand loyalty when it comes to ATI cards, so I'll get it where I can find it I guess. :wink:

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