5040X1050 60HZ do you need?

mviewtech · Post by **mviewtech** » 14 Aug 2009, 07:41

5040X1050 60HZ do you need ?

Post by **BHawthorne** » 14 Aug 2009, 08:24

Hrrrm, looking at the link in your Profile, it looks like the MViewer is like the TH2G? Looks like you have both the TH2G and TH2G Digital feature matched but can do things the TH2G can't do.

The MV103-HDVEPro can do 5040x1050 at 60hz? Can it do 5760x1200 or 5760x1080? Also this chaining of MV103 into a video wall? These boxes are doing things Matrox never allowed the TH2G to do. Is that video wall capable of 3D or just 2D desktop use?

http://www.mviewtech.com I was running the pages from there through Google Translate Chinese -> English. Definitely interesting information. Why hasn't anyone else heard of MView Technology? Is it because of the language barrier or is this only available in the Asia market?

Matrox might have some competition on it's hands if the MViewer MV103-HDVE can in fact do some of the things it seems to be able to do.

Post by **thales100** » 14 Aug 2009, 11:27

5040X1050 60HZ do you need ?

Sounds interesting, what about some detailed information about this ?

mviewtech · Post by **mviewtech** » 14 Aug 2009, 16:36

it's 3D application. you can run any 3D game that support 5040x1050 60Hz

Roboto · Post by **Roboto** » 14 Aug 2009, 17:12

Just email the guys there and this is the reply I got.
Did some edit.
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Hi,
Now we do not have an english web page or product datasheet. We will update the english version soon, I can describe our products briefly:

Our Mviewer multi-monitor expansion module is a product that attaches to the monitor connector of your system and output the divided signal across three seperate monitors.

For example, the graphic card send a video resolution of 3840x1024 to Mviewer, then the Mviewer will divide it into three 1280x1024 resolution signals and send them to three outputs which can connect to 3 monitors.

Now our products include:

MV103-HDVE which is an engineering version features high availability, hot plug and resolution custom definition. It use AC/DC power as power source and it have an duallink DVI input and three DVI-I outputs. Now this part can support the world's first 4200x1050@60Hz resolution which can support three SXGA+ projectors. It can also support multiple MV103-HDVEs to use parallel or cascade(two stage cascade), which can support video wall.

MV103-HDVE pro version is an upgrade version of MV103-HDVE, which reserves the features and add an FlexView patent technique, that allows the support of world's first true 60HZ 5040x1050 resolution which can support any 22 inch LCD with either DVI or VGA input.

MV103-HDVI version is an USB powered Mviewer and it is designed for desktop usage, does not support hot plug and customer defined resolution and parallel /cascade usage.

If you have some other question or some other things that not clear, please email to us.

Mviewtech
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the reason we cannot get 5040x1050@60Hz is due to the limitations of the bandwidth of DVI connections right?

How do you overcome that?

Post by **BHawthorne** » 14 Aug 2009, 19:10

The cascade video wall capability and custom resolutions definitely sounds a lot more flexible than TH2G.

I'm curious what the price point would be for this box. Are you looking for a US market partner? I can pass information onto EVGA management.

dinmaster · Post by **dinmaster** » 14 Aug 2009, 21:59

this is very interesting it looks just like the th2g. i am very interested in the price as well.

thefunk007 · Post by **thefunk007** » 15 Aug 2009, 00:35

Bring it on, it would be useful to supply one of the insiders/reviewers to trial your product, as I would think quite a few people on here would be very interested in your product, as Matrox just do not offer the flexibility and support.

Mesh · Post by **Mesh** » 15 Aug 2009, 07:21

As much as a more flexible alternative to the th2g is needed, I hope they won't be stepping on matrox's patents on this kind of thing to achieve it. Too similar products usually end up badly.

Post by **BHawthorne** » 15 Aug 2009, 07:38

Both boxes have been around since 2006. Who knows, this company might be the OEM for Matrox for all we know.

Mesh · Post by **Mesh** » 15 Aug 2009, 08:18

Could also be a en ex-oem that cut the deal short once it copied enough to make it itself.

Just saying, never hurts to be cautious but it can be devastating to trust blindly.

mviewtech · Post by **mviewtech** » 15 Aug 2009, 15:50

1.we are not OEM of Matrox, and the Mviewer series is a product we designed all by ourself which use our patent pending technology in China
2.The realization of true 5040x1050 60Hz is by our patent technique FlexView, as the DVI has limitation on 330Mhz video bandwidth but the valid data bandwith in 5040x1050 60Hz is still in the range but you need an special Hardware circuit to do the job that is what our FlexView technique do

Uttik · Post by **Uttik** » 15 Aug 2009, 19:13

1.we are not OEM of Matrox, and the Mviewer series is a product we designed all by ourself which use our patent pending technology in China
2.The realization of true 5040x1050 60Hz is by our patent technique FlexView, as the DVI has limitation on 330Mhz video bandwidth but the valid data bandwith in 5040x1050 60Hz is still in the range but you need an special Hardware circuit to do the job that is what our FlexView technique do

Mviewtech

I think you can say you have alot of interest here.

Can you tell us.

1 > Is there an english version
2 > Where to buy it in Europe and how much is it
3 > To get full 5040x1050 @ 60Hz you just use DVI connections.
4 > Is there any performance issues within gaming at that res on your box.

As you know TH2GO had to use DisplayPort to get 5040x1050@60Hz.

any and all info you can give us would be great.

Thank you

Post by **BHawthorne** » 15 Aug 2009, 20:03

There is definite interest for this product, as there is no current competition in English speaking market for the TH2G. Most of us would definitely welcome competition as to drive innovation and pricing with competition like occurs with video cards.

I have forwarded information to EVGA management to review MViewer. Hopefully they'll agree that it would be worth picking up the product line under the EVGA product name in English speaking markets. My curiosity is that MViewer product line has been out since 2006, why has noone heard of it in the English speaking markets? Has there been no attempts to gain marketshare in those markets until now?

Wish List:
With the bandwidth limitation on Dual-DVI would it be possible to do 5760x1080 or 5760x1200 at some Hz setting lower the 60hz? If not Dual-DVI, does the new DisplayPort 1.4 spec have enough bandwidth?

Would some model of MViewer be able to do triple display but rotated 90 degree displays?

Uttik · Post by **Uttik** » 15 Aug 2009, 22:51

WARNNING!!
Been drinking sorry for typing,

Wish List:
With the bandwidth limitation on Dual-DVI would it be possible to do 5760x1080 or 5760x1200 at some Hz setting lower the 60hz? If not Dual-DVI, does the new DisplayPort 1.4 spec have enough bandwidth?

I agree with alot of what you have to say but more so with the wish list.
I would love 1920x1050/1200x3=5760 or 5760x1200 display that would rock.

Can the Mview do that?

But to be honest i dont think Mview are really pushing for it in the US or Europe. witch i think is mad,

I can see a real interest here with a lot of people.

I would love my above questions aswered!

mviewtech · Post by **mviewtech** » 16 Aug 2009, 01:51

Hello all,
According to FlexView technology,our product can realize 5760X1080 or 5760X1200 at some HZ(lower than 60HZ) ,but we must test it before releasing the product.
According to Displayport 1.2 Spec(the bandwidth is 720MHz) . it is enough to realize 5760X1080 or 5760 X 1200 @60HZ ,our company are waiting the related chip released (Displayport receiver chip and Video card can support displayport 1.2 ).
Our product can't affect any 3D game performance.
We focus on Chinese market now,if a lot of people are interesting our product . I can feedback to our company.
Our current product can't support rotated 90 degree display. but you can rotated 90 degree in Windows operation system (window XP and Vista can rotated with 90 ,180 and 270 degree).

Mviewtech

Post by **thales100** » 16 Aug 2009, 02:35

Looks impressive, im sure a 5760x1200 res. ( 3 x 24" native) would interest lots of people. :P

Uttik · Post by **Uttik** » 16 Aug 2009, 10:51

Mviewtech thank you for the info.

I think you can bet your house on it. That there is alot of interest in the EU and US market for this.

Can you answer me this. Is the installed program that the Mview box uses have an english option?

Meaning can i order one from you now and be able to install and use it?.

Also as for a displayport model i take it, That it will be DisplayPort to DisplayPort only ,meaning you cant use a DVI adapter

Displayport Mview model > Displayport to DVI adapter > DVI Monitor

With the DVI model you have now. At what Hz can it do 5760x1080 or 5760x1200

and last question How much dose Mview Cost

Thank you

mviewtech · Post by **mviewtech** » 17 Aug 2009, 08:44

Mviewtech thank you for the info.

I think you can bet your house on it. That there is alot of interest in the EU and US market for this.

Can you answer me this. Is the installed program that the Mview box uses have an english option?

Meaning can i order one from you now and be able to install and use it?.

Also as for a displayport model i take it, That it will be DisplayPort to DisplayPort only ,meaning you cant use a DVI adapter

Displayport Mview model > Displayport to DVI adapter > DVI Monitor

With the DVI model you have now. At what Hz can it do 5760x1080 or 5760x1200

and last question How much dose Mview Cost

Thank you

1.we will release english option software next week ,but datasheet will be later.
2.we don't use any displayport chip ,adapter or technology in our current product.
3.5760X1080 @50HZ 5760X1200 @45HZ according to Flexview technology. if lots of people need it,we can test it.

Uttik · Post by **Uttik** » 17 Aug 2009, 10:42

Thank you for the reply.

The only problem i see with

5760X1080 @50HZ 5760X1200 @45HZ according to Flexview technology

Is finding monitors that support and work at 50/45 Hz.

we don't use any displayport chip ,adapter or technology in our current product.

When are you bring out your DisplayPort chip product.

As you know TH2GO has a DisplayPort product, That is doing 5040x1050 at 60 Hz But your normal DVI box is doing that

My question is this ::

With the bandwidth of DisplayPort 8.64 Gbit/s data rate over the bandwidth of DVI (Single Link) 3.96 Gbit/s (Dual Link) 7.92 Gbit/s ) Do you think you would be able to get 5760x1080/5760x1200 at 60Hz +

I am sure you have played around with DisplayPort.

we will release english option software next week ,but datasheet will be later.

If you could test and post some datasheets ASAP that would be really great.

Last question, How much dose Mview Cost.

Thank you

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