X-Plane 9.0

[Mumm]

I've been having trouble getting X-Plane 9 to run at 5040x1050 on my ThripleHead2Go set up. I can run other games like Devil May Cry and World of Warcrft at 5040x1050 just fine. I did have to change the refresh rate of DMC to 57hz before it worked and I wonder if the same is true with X-Plane 9.

My Current set up is as follows:

(3) 20" Dell E207WFP
TripleHead2Go Digital edition
NVIDIA Driver version 175.19

My SGU Profile:

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;KEYWORDS:

   ;  #MATROXH (Replaced with User selected Resolution Height)

   ;  #MATROXW (Replaced with User selected Resolution Width)

   ;  #RESDEPENDENT._ (Replaced by a value based on the selected resolution)

   

   

   [GAMEINFO]

   GAMELOC=D:X-Plane 9X-Plane.exe

   GAMEEXE=X-Plane.exe

   LATESTPATCHREQ=

   MSG1=

   REGKEYMUSTEXIST=

   SHORTCUTICON=

   SHORTCUTNAME=X-Plane 9.00

   SHORTCUTPARAMETERS=

   USERLOC=D:X-Plane 9X-Plane.exe

   

   

   [GAMERES]

   RES=3840x1024

   

   

   [GAMERESOLUTIONS]

   Min=

   Max=

   

   

   ;Registry modifications must be in the following format:

   ;Registry KeyPath, Registry Name, Registry Data, Registry Type (Ex: REG_SZ, REG_DWORD, REG_BINARY)

   ;Usable KEYWORDS- #MATROXH, #MATROXW, #RESDEPENDENT.1, #RESDEPENDENT.2 ...

   [Registry]

   

   

   ;Config Name To Be Reference (Ex: CFG.1) = Cfg path (Ex: GameConfigFolderGameCfgFile.cfg)

   ;Usable KEYWORDS- See creating a recipe documentation.

   [CFG]

   CFG.1=D:X-Plane 9OutputpreferencesRes X-System.prf

   CFG.2=D:X-Plane 9OutputpreferencesSet X-Plane.prf

   

   

   ;Usable KEYWORDS- #MATROXH, #MATROXW, #RESDEPENDENT.1, #RESDEPENDENT.2 ...

   [CFG.1]

   _x_res_req=#MATROXW

   _y_res_req=#MATROXH

   

   [CFG.2]

   _FOV=100.000000

   _vert1=1

   _vert2=1

   

   

   

   [HOWTO]

   MSG=

   

   

   [RESDEPENDENT.1]

   1920x480=

   2400x600=

   3072x576=

   3072x768=

   3840x720=

   3840x768=

   3840x960=

   3840x1024=

Is there a place I can set the refresh rate? From what I understand the max bandwith of dual-link at 5040x1050 is 57 hz so if it tried to run at 60 I know it shouldn't work.

[Paddy the Wak]

Yo ... welcome to the forum ... 8)

I don't have the game and to be honest I rarly use the SGU ... but looking at that it says ...

[GAMERES]
RES=3840x1024

Maybe you should make that 5040x1050 ...

[djib]

Hello and welcome.
X-Plane 9 natively supports surround gaming. I suggets you set it up directly in X-Plane's "Rendering Options". Don't forget to change the FOV as well.

[Mumm]

Thanks for the replys! (and the greetings! :P )

X-Plane 9's config is a little strange. It has a file for the resolution but I'm not 100% certin of which lines to changeadd. Enabling the vsync didn't change anything.

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   92001 version

   _x_res_req_PLN 0

   _y_res_req_PLN 0

   _x_res_req_WRL 0

   _y_res_req_WRL 0

   _x_res_req_ALL 5040

   _y_res_req_ALL 1050

   _col_res_req 32

   _use_vsync1 0

   _use_vsync2 0

   _set_res 0

   _lang 0

   _alias_req 0

   _keylist_up 1

   _sec_mon_inuse 0

   _prefs_found 1

The FOV can be set in another file but its much larger so I'll only post a portion of it. The rest contains custom keybind settings.

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   92001 version

   _message_1 X-Plane and X-Planner are now here for the iPhone and iPodTouch!

   _message_2 The iPhone version of X-Plane is so fun it is crazy... you TILT the phone to fly!

   _message_3 X-Planner is a flight planner for pilots that will let you choose altitudes and see your time and fuel burn on your iPhone! COOL!

   _message_4 Go to iTunes, then the App Store, and search X-Plane or X-Planner! Or just see the links at the top of www.X-Plane.com! The Planner will pay for itself in only one use!

   _tex_res 3

   _prd_max 0.052632

   _use_sys_time 0

   _hours_offset 0.000000

   _log_pilot Output/logbooks/X-Plane Pilot.txt

   _sel_cld_num_rat 1.000000

   _sel_cld_rad_rat 1.000000

   _movie_dx 320

   _movie_framerate 20.000000

   _download_rwx 0

   _use_rwx 0

   _rwx_check_mins 30.000000

   _rwx_max_vis_sm 15.000000

   _sound_on 1

   _voice_on 1

   _radio_chatter_on 1

   _text_out 1

   _warn_bb 1

   _FOVx 45.000000

   _FOVy 29.028559

   _off_lat_deg 0.000000

   _off_vrt_deg 0.000000

   _off_phi_deg 0.000000

   _cin_verite 0

[Paddy the Wak]

What djib said was you should choose the TripleHead options in the game ... or the games "Rendering Options" ... and so you should not have to mess with config files.

[Mumm]

Yeah, the first thing I tried was just setting the res in game. I wish it did work but it won't at my native res. My desktop res is 5040x1050. The highest setting I can get no matter how I set it is 3840x1024. However there is no Full screen mode so it runs in a window (@ 3840x768).

So yes... it will work without modification for those who run 3840x768 or smaller.

[svet-am]

anyone gotten 5040x1050 to work on Vista? I can get it to work on XP, but not on Vista. On Vista, all I get is a full black screen. Eventually, I can hear sound but I never get video.

[svet-am]

I received a copy of Windows 7 RTM as part of a Microsoft training event. I've got it installed and can confirm that this is still a problem with Windows 7.

Again, in XP it works fine, but in Windows Vista/7 the 5040x1050 resolution results in a black screen.

[Nosferatu05]

What is it about 5040x1050 not working under vista?

@svet-am you say you hear sound but no video? What do you mean with it while on desktop? What video, what sound?

[svet-am]

What is it about 5040x1050 not working under vista?

@svet-am you say you hear sound but no video? What do you mean with it while on desktop? What video, what sound?

What I see is that all three of the screens are completely black and I hear the normal X-Plane sounds. So, it seems to me that X-Plane is loading but is having trouble rendering the video -- but that the rest of the engine is running okay.

Since I've gotten it to work on XP, I don't think that it's really an X-Plane "problem." As a part-time developer with some experience in the area, I'm thinking that it probably has to do with how Microsoft changed the handling of OpenGL in Vista and Windows 7 which is preventing X-Plane from rendering at that size. That said, the folks on the X-Plane team need to find some kind of workaround.

Whether we like or not, Vista and Windows 7 are the future (on the MS side) and their simulator needs to be able run properly in that environment or folks won't use it.

[Nosferatu05]

Yeah hold on... I remember something with issues on FSX. It made me go crazy. Had black screens but the game was running. First I installed the latest Matrox drivers and than I found out that it only worked if one grafics setting is completly turned off. i could use any resolution after that.

But the crap thing is...I dont know the name of that option. I bet the Xplane grafic setting is like the one from FSX...

try turn off the anti alising first or the shaders.

Need a screenshot from the FSX grafik menu than I could tell you what I did. But at the end it worked just fine. Like I saied it must be the same problem with xplane

edit: Oh you need to start your game on one display and with normal resolutions first in order to make the changings. And try it in windowed mode too. But I think you allready tried all of it.

[svet-am]

i think i've finally made progress toward understanding the problem on windows vista/7, but I cannot explain the "why" for sure.

During my testing, I've found that under vista/7, the maximum x-plane resolution (windowed or full-screen) is 4096x1050 on a TH2Go.

based on the opengl docs, opengl does _not_ have a maximum resolution. however, directx _does_. dx9 has a maximum resolution of 4096x4096. dx10 doubles this to 8192x8192.

my gut tells me that opengl apps like x-plane are being rendered via the directx pipeline.

both microsoft and the opengl forum claim that there's nothing in vista/7 that specifically inhibit opengl apps on these operating systems.

however, microsoft _does_ say that opengl ICD's from XP will _not_ work on vista and that they must be rewritten for the vista architecture.

thus, there's nothing stopping nvidia (my card's manufacturer) from writting their opengl icd such that it's nothing more than a wrapper around directx.

i don't know if things are different on the ati side of things.

with all of the above said, the problem could also be in matrox's driver and/or firmware for the th2g0 hardware.

anyone else have thoughts on this?

[soffball]

I was having problems also with XPlane but with help from Corbalin at the Softth forums I got it working at 5040 x 1050. This is what he told me.

I run X-plane 9 on my three screens (24"+26"+24") at 5760x1200 perfectly
WITHOUT using SoftTH or any other displaymanager, the built-in settings of X-plane
works great, just set u'r primary windows display to show on the one to the far left as
X-plane will start drawing the picture on primary display snd then strech it out to the right.

Once I did that it came right up. Hope it helps

[Skid]

Have you added 5040x1050 into your TH2Go list of resolutions? I've seen a few games that will only accept TH resolutions if they appear in that list.

[AussieTimmeh]

Just to add to this, X-Plane 9 works using Radeon's Eyefinity on Windows 7 straight out of the box.

First of all, update X-Plane 9 to the latest release (9.40rc16 atm), this will ensure you get a 'fullscreen' box to check, rather than typing in your resolution manually. Seems to help.

Secondly, go to Settings > Equipment and even though you're not using it, check the Matrox Triplehead2Go box. This reduces extra widescreen stretching in some cockpits (doesn't seem to have a negative effect on those that display properly from the start).

Finally, change the FOV from 45° to 135° to reflect the triplescreen setup (although of course you can tune this later).

Be aware though that with the latest ATI drivers, I am finding some of the aircraft downloads cause the display driver to crash (Airtourer, LongEZ are a couple I remember, were a couple more that I tested).

Same aircraft using an Nvidia / TH2G setup did not see any display driver crashes, interestingly enough.


Has anyone got X-Plane 9 to work on Windows 7 at 5040 with a TH2G yet? If not, I'll attempt to do some development on it. I have got it working with XP fine, which is what my sim setup uses, but can attempt a Windows 7 fix.

[AussieTimmeh]

Uninstalled the Radeon 5850 and reinstalled the GTX275 and TH2G, including the GXM 2.06 for the first time for me, in order to troubleshoot this further.

Been testing this X-Plane problem with no luck whatsoever. Works great in Windows XP, but cannot get it to work regardless of what I try.

- Tried going into the Nvidia control panel and manually forcing every setting OFF.
- Tried setting the left display as the primary display and launching it in single-screen mode first.
- Tried various versions of X-Plane 9, including 9.41beta.
- Tried all sorts of FOV changes.
- Tried turning every single setting off or to minimal.
- Tried turning off the Aero theme.
- Tried overriding where and how new windows and applications open.

It is some sort of horizontal deflection problem, like when you unplug a deflection amp on a CRT tube. Everything is working, it's just all aligned on one pixel on the left hand side of the screens.

It's so silly when it works with Radeon's Eyefinity fine.

BTW anyone know how to turn off the annoying confirmation question when you switch between profiles in GXM 2.06?

Ie: Switch from 3 screen to single screen, or vice versa, you get a dialog box asking you if you wish to keep the current settings. I was hoping it would go away after I confirmed it the first time. Any way to remove this?

[McKie]

So I'm thinking of re installing this game in my Eyefinity set up. Is there any known Issues that I should know of. I'm assuming from the posts that this will work with Eyefinity straight out of the box. I remember having some kind of resolution problem when I had it on Vista with just 1920 X 1200 and never reinstalled it when upgrading to W7. but have been Itching to give it a try again.

does it work with crossfire?

[AussieTimmeh]

I've been using it in Eyefinity mode ok, with the following issues:

1. You may need to download the latest installer (free from the X-Plane.com site). I found I could not select areas of the map with the as-delivered installer. Obviously they recognised this problem exists for some people and a free installer is available on the website.
2. The view indicator (which direction you are looking out of the aircraft) is drawn incorrectly. It should be the silhouette of a plane, with a triangle coming out of it to show which way you are looking. It appears like that, but the rest of the imaginary box around the outside is also filled in, making it look odd.
3. X-Planes will crash when some planes are loaded. This only happens to me on about 3 of the 100 or so planes I have in the system.
4. No bezel management sucks because things are always broken in alignment, compared to my Nvidia / TH2G setup.

Nvidia > ATI for X-Plane on Windows, its a commonly known fact on the X-Plane.org forums. However, it still works and works fine.

[McKie]

Ok, Thanks.

When you say Install the latest installer are you referring to Windows v9.41 Update located here http://www.x-plane.com/pg_downloads.html

[AussieTimmeh]

Sort of. It can be a bit confusing:

1. Try installing from your discs. If everything works, great. Go to step 3.
2. If the installer won't let you choose any locations to install scenery on, download the latest installer from this page: http://wiki.x-plane.com/DVD_Installers and complete the install.
3. Once installed, download the Windows v9.41 Update file and run it to update your copy of X-Plane to the latest version. You can do this in X-Plane itself also if you wish.

Hope that helps.