Does it work in Directx 10?

khula · Post by **khula** » 14 Sep 2008, 11:55

I'd like to be able to compile a list of games that work in Directx10 mode ingame at a resolution of 5040x1050 because so far I haven't been able to select one...

Games that work must meet the following criteria:
1. 5040x1050 resolution.
2. Directx10 mode.
3. Correct FOV and aspect ratio.
4. Fullscreen mode (not windowed).

Games that work...

Games that don't work...
1. Lord Of The Rings Online (only works in windowed mode).
2. Bioshock (directx9 mode only).
3. Crysis and Warhead (directx9 mode only).
4. FSX-X (directx9 mode only).
5. World in Conflict (tested ver. : 1.09) ... Symptom : can't click Ok after changing res to 5040x1050. Works in DX9...

inteljoc · Post by **inteljoc** » 14 Sep 2008, 23:35

I am unable to select 5040x1050 in FSX-X with "Preview DirectX 10" checked.

But I do when the button is unchecked.

khula · Post by **khula** » 15 Sep 2008, 23:01

Surely this can't be right?

Matrox say you must have a directx10 card to use 5040x1050, yet you can't select it in directx10 mode ingame? WTF?

Is there any official answer? or unofficial for that matter?

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 16 Sep 2008, 08:33

I think Matrox say you must have a directx10 card to use 5040x1050 as those cards allow the higher resolutions ... not because they do DX10.

khula · Post by **khula** » 16 Sep 2008, 20:25

Come on Paddy, you know as well as i do that that is very naughty. Stating you need a directx10 card for 5040x1050 but that actually it wont work in directx10 mode ingame at that resolution is extremely misleading.

I mean it's just plain wrong...

Whats the chances it'll never support directx10 at that resolution? If so whats the point of playing games in vista in directx9 mode when most gamers only bought vista for directx10.

The more I think about it, the more I don't like Matrox's lack of clarity here....

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 16 Sep 2008, 21:11

Now your taking my thoughts (I did say "I think") and putting them in to Matrox's mouth ...

It could be they did clarify this more ... I dunno ... I don't use Vista I dropped it long ago.
If in fact they are the only cards that will do the res .. if they didn't mention it someone would complain ... "Why didn't you say we needed a DX10 card !"
And ... for all I know it works in DX10 as only a few people have indicated this is a problem ... and ... you yourself said this ...

You sir are...are..are.. my new wife!!!! I think I lurve you!!!! I followed your instructions and it worked!! Half Life 2, the works. Everything. Even flaming Need for speed underground 2 for crying out loud!!

I shall name my second born in your honour. This has been driving me crazy since I bought the damn thing.

Once again, I thank you...

... so was that in DX9 ?

Krystm · Post by **Krystm** » 16 Sep 2008, 22:54

Just if this helps at all. The reasons for the monitor limitations.

DirectX9 has a maximum supported resolution of 4096x4096, and DirectX 10's maximum resolution is 8192x8192

Meaning the 3 monitors cannot go over those resolutions. As far as TH2G unleashing the DX10 Limit I can only hope but right now not everything is DX10. Is there a way to play a dx9 game as dx10? Or at least use DX10 so I can use my higher res?

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 16 Sep 2008, 23:28

Krystm ... please change your sig to meet the rules.

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Please keep the text (colored text is fine) between sizes 9 and 11 (using BB Code). Run your specs horizontally (rather than vertically), and limit to four lines at normal forum width.

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khula · Post by **khula** » 17 Sep 2008, 09:34

Now your taking my thoughts (I did say "I think") and putting them in to Matrox's mouth ...

It could be they did clarify this more ... I dunno ... I don't use Vista I dropped it long ago.
If in fact they are the only cards that will do the res .. if they didn't mention it someone would complain ... "Why didn't you say we needed a DX10 card !"
And ... for all I know it works in DX10 as only a few people have indicated this is a problem ...

Yup you're right (as usual). I didn't mean to compare your thoughts to matrox's statements. My fault.

Yes i did go all gushy when I found the system worked but that was in directx9. I read that you needed a directx10 card to achieve 5040x1050 and seeing as dx10 is only available in vista (even though I obviously realise you can have a directx10 card and only have xp installed), I re-installed vista again to have some 5040x1050 dx10 gaming...

But no, so far I can't play any directx10 games in dx10 mode at that resolution. It's all dx9. Look, it's not a major problem I realise this, I just think it's unfair that dx10 is required but can't be used ingame?

I still think it would be a good idea to have a confirmed list of games that meet the following criteria

1. 5040x1050
2. directx10 mode ingame
3. Correct FOV, aspect ratio, etc.

Or is this a litle too much to ask?

JKeefe · Post by **JKeefe** » 19 Sep 2008, 21:38

DirectX9 has a maximum supported resolution of 4096x4096, and DirectX 10's maximum resolution is 8192x8192

Incorrect. DX9-compliant GPUs have a 4096x4096 limit. DX10 GPUs have a 8192x8192 limit. But the API itself (i.e. the DX version) does not affect the maximum resolution (unless we are talking about DX7 and older). You can play DX9 games, games for which a DX10 mode and DX10 coding do not even exist, at resolutions such as 4320x900, 5040x1050, and 5760x1200, assuming you have the proper hardware.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 20 Sep 2008, 08:15

Yep JKeefe has it, it is a hardware limit. The DX10 card can output enough pixels.

However I have seen that neither Crysis or Warhead works in DX10 5040, I have to use DX9 :(

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 20 Sep 2008, 09:05

I still think it would be a good idea to have a confirmed list of games that meet the following criteria

1. 5040x1050
2. directx10 mode ingame
3. Correct FOV, aspect ratio, etc.

Or is this a litle too much to ask?

khula bud ... how about you edit your first post ...

Adding the above requirements/criteria for such a list.
Add a list of games that you know of that meet the criteria and a list that do not.
Like this ...

Games that do work ...
Game 1
Game 2
Game ... etc.

Games that don't work ...
Crysis or Warhead
Game 2
Game ... etc.

Then as people mention games that do or don't work 5040x1050 DX10 you can add them ... :D

I'll then sticky the thread ... 8)

khula · Post by **khula** » 21 Sep 2008, 16:29

Edited as requested mate. Hope that's ok.

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 21 Sep 2008, 19:05

Looks good ... thanks ... :D
I added Crysis and Warhead as M19p says they don't work ...

Just update/edit your first post if you find any more or if people post about games that do/don't work ... 8)

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 27 Sep 2008, 17:53

Okay, I confess I overlooked that conversation. Here goes :

NOT WORKING IN DX10 :
World in Conflict (tested ver. : 1.09)

Symptom : can't click Ok after changeing res to 5040x1050. Works in DX9...

windturbin · Post by **windturbin** » 29 Sep 2008, 19:19

IL2-1946 does not work :(

khula · Post by **khula** » 29 Sep 2008, 21:56

IL2-1946 does not work :(

Hi bud,

Is this in directx10? Or just in general? I didn't think IL2 supported DX10.. but what do I know. If it is in DX10 you're talking about, I'll add it to the list.

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 30 Sep 2008, 18:19

Hey khula, please rename the topic and edit the first post so that it qualifies as a sticky :wink:

khula · Post by **khula** » 01 Oct 2008, 19:13

Hey khula, please rename the topic and edit the first post so that it qualifies as a sticky :wink:

Sure thing. What does the title need to say so that it qualifies?

wumzi · Post by **wumzi** » 07 Oct 2008, 15:21

Games that don't work...

2. Bioshock (directx9 mode only).

Does that mean you CAN get Bioshock to work at 5040x1050 in Directx 9? I only get the non-widescreen multi monitor modes available, which makes things really stretched on my widescreen setup.

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