LOOK: Vista/Win7 and 5040x1050?: FIXES IN 1st POST!

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 28 Aug 2008, 02:47

As at 191.06 it appears that 5040 and DX10 is enabled, just install the driver, latest GXM and firmware from Matrox and run the Wizard. YAAAYYYY!!!! Note The latest ATi drivers also appwear to allow 5040 :)

If you are trying to get 5040 res with 177.92 or latter NVidia driver (ATi cards can't do 5040 res, sorry) your monitors might give you an 'out of range' (or similar) error. This is often not a fault of your monitor but a driver/PowerdeskSE/GXM problem. You can try either of the 2 options below:

OPTION ONE: Try this unofficial GXM if you have a 200 series card: I have an UNOFFICIAL BETA version of the PowerDesk-SE software which fixes the 'out of range' error and works under Vista and Win7. However this only works for 200 series cards (GTX260, 280, 285 and 295). Try at your own risk, get it from this thread.
Note: There has been some success using this GXM with cards other than 200 series, i.e. 8800GTX. Give it a whirl!

OPTION TWO: if you don't have 200 series card try a custom resolution: (and see note above) according to Mattsimis here (and tidied up repost here) you can set 5040 up as a custom res in up-to 180.48 and latter drivers. Give it a go :)

READ OTHER THREADS: Some people have figured other ways but the 2 above are the main, and most successful, ones :) This is the official thread but we have figured out that many of the problems are with the latest NV drivers (latter than 177.92) and Vista...install XP it works fine with the latest drivers ;)

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 28 Aug 2008, 09:25

Yo bud ...
Thanks for the heads-up ... :D

I tried the BETA 177.92 drivers in XP ... all is well but I had to uninstall and reinstall PowerDesk to get 5040x1050 to be selectable.

Vroshnak · Post by **Vroshnak** » 28 Aug 2008, 14:45

I've got SoftTH running 5040x1050 with nvidia's 177.92 beta drivers on Vista Ultimate 64bit. I checked the desktop and ran Portal and both worked fine.

So I guess it isn't the drivers, but something about the TripleHead2Go?

Mud · Post by **Mud** » 15 Sep 2008, 15:44

The newer WHQLs (177.41) also work fine for 5040x1050 under Vista 64 with triplehead2go digital.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 25 Sep 2008, 21:15

And, I am afraid, neither will the new WHQL 178.13, at least not in Vista 64bit.

The same as the BETA drivers you can change the Edit Mode List to the maximum I have ever seen on it (I have never, even on the old drivers that do 5040, seen more than 3x1360x768 or 1280x800 on that list) to get those resolutions but no joy on 5040.

The other wierd thing is that under monitor properties the Matrox is listed but also 3 other 'default' monitors which are greyed out...

As an aside do other people see 3x1680x1050 when they go to the edit mode list on the gxm?

Mud · Post by **Mud** » 25 Sep 2008, 21:25

I concur, I can't set 3x1440x900 or 3x1680x1050 with the newest drivers and had to roll back. My mode list looks the same as yours.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 25 Sep 2008, 22:25

Weird thing is during using the working driver the 3x1680x1050 is still not displayed in the gxm, but you can select the res no probs in the desktop.

Having looked through the matrox site I see that the 3x1680x1050 SHOULD be displayed in the gxm..I have never seen it. Is this a vista only erro? Or vista 64bit only error? Anyone like to check their vista system and post it here

Mud · Post by **Mud** » 25 Sep 2008, 22:39

I've uninstalled the driver now, but am pretty sure I couldn't choose above 3x1360x768 even in regular display settings. I can select 3x1680x1050 in GXM with 177.35 or 177.41. This is with 177.35:

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 25 Sep 2008, 22:47

Cheers Mud, so with 177.41 I have 5040 no probs but I do not have the 3x1680x1050 in the GXM. Looks like it is just my system then!
EDIT:

khula · Post by **khula** » 26 Sep 2008, 01:32

You can't have 5040x1050 in the 'Edit Mode' list. I think it's because it's a custom resolution to the NVidia driver but a native one to the TH2Go (if that makes sense).

I can confirm that the 178.13 drivers work wonderfully in XP 32bit. No probs at all. In Vista 64 bit however, it's a no go. Back to the 175.19 I'm afraid.

Of course this means that Surround DX10 gaming is still not available. (Good lord, I seem to do nothing but bang on about that - it does bug me though).

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 26 Sep 2008, 06:14

Well according to this helpo site from matrox you do get it in the edit mode list, look to the bottom ..highlighted in green

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/support/gxm/windows/th2go/digital/howto1/

WaveZtream · Post by **WaveZtream** » 26 Sep 2008, 08:41

new WHQL 178.13 I can also confirm that they wont work in 5040x1050. And I installed the Nvidia WHQL 178.13 freshly then uninstalled the PowerDesk and reinstalled it still nothing is available.

We probably only need to wait for Matrox to release a new version of the PowerDesk to make it possible.

khula · Post by **khula** » 26 Sep 2008, 11:57

Well according to this helpo site from matrox you do get it in the edit mode list, look to the bottom ..highlighted in green

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/support/gxm/windows/th2go/digital/howto1/

Sorry mate, but thats the 'change mode' option not the 'edit mode' option, If the button on the right of that screenshot (edit mode list) was clicked, I can guarantee 5040x1050 wont be there.

I think the problem is that 5040x1050 is shown as a custom resolution when you look at the Nvidia control panel, and for some reason DX10 just doesn't work (yet) with surround sized custom resolutions.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 26 Sep 2008, 12:17

OK I see what you mean, I was not being accurate.

In 177.41 I get the 3x1680x050 in the change display mode list (and it works fine..DX9 anyway ;) )

In 178.13 and the earlier BETA I don't get it on that list and cannot select it :(

khula · Post by **khula** » 26 Sep 2008, 12:27

Yep me and you both mate!

Xp 32 bit 178.13 works fine at 5040x1050 (DX9)

Vista 64 bit - no chance. The resolutions as you say, don't even appear in the 'change mode' option. I can force 3840x800 (which I think is the highest resolution you can add) in the edit mode option, but again this only works in DX9 mode.

Obviously it's a problem in vista 64 but I'm not sure if it's due to Microsoft's lovely OS, Nvidia's ridiculous drivers or Matrox's lack of compatibility with all of the above.

I guess I'm still peeved at the 'requires DirectX10 card but wont work in DirectX10 mode' slogan.

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 26 Sep 2008, 16:38

Are you really unable to use that max res with that driver ? (Just asking - still using 177.41 here...)

Don't rely too much on the GXM list, sometimes it'll show 3x 1680x1050, most of the time it won't - but this mode is automatically activated and available anyway. Just use the Windows Display Properties slider instead of GXM's Mode Changer... and don't hesitate to try a cold boot after updating graphics card software, the TH2G seems to appreciate it.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 26 Sep 2008, 21:22

Yep the slider stops at what ever you have set in the custom mode list.

After first installing the new driver and a fresh copy of gxm with the monitor using the gxm.inf the max res available is 1920x1200...1 monitor. I can then use the gxm to 'open up' triple res by adding them in the 'edit mode list' but the max one there is the 1360x768 one.

If you manage to get it working please do tell, it has a lot of SLI improvements!

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 29 Sep 2008, 16:10

All I can do is confirm it doesn't work (178.13, Vista64) :(

I have 3 preset modes I can cycle through with a Hotkey : 1680x1050, 3360x1050 (dual), 5040x1050 (triplehead). With 178.13 installed, no more 5040, nothing happens. Back to 177.41, everything's ok.

What could possibly be wrong with an updated graphics driver that would remove access to a certain resolution ? :?

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 29 Sep 2008, 20:06

Matrox have just sent me a newer GXM. I will trial when I get home and report back...hopefully I can post it here, if it works :)

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 29 Sep 2008, 20:59

It ALMOST worked! I could select 5040x1050 using the latest driver (178.13) with the new GXM. However when I do so the centre monitor gives me an out of range error (i.e. it cannot display the res/refresh rate it is getting). Since it displays on the old driver and GXM fine with the new driver and/or GXM it is obviously not putting out 1680x1050@57Hz on the centre monitor but some other res/refresh rate.

If anyone else wants to try the new GXM (and can tell me how to upload a file!) just say so...maybe it is an error with my system only. Though I doubt it :)

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