Crysis ... ea released the wrong demo ?

njracer · Post by **njracer** » 02 Nov 2007, 03:38

it appears that ea might have released the wrong demo, the demo we've all downloaded has the entire story in it and also more stuff then it was suppose to have, check out this article, plus they also give you a site for different boards.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=522

Dem Pyros · Post by **Dem Pyros** » 02 Nov 2007, 03:47

One month to fix it up and they still screw it over......

JosephJEHancock · Post by **JosephJEHancock** » 02 Nov 2007, 03:56

Heard of this a while ago. Funny stuff really. If anything, it makes me more eager for the game, from the cool stuff in the editor.

skeeder · Post by **skeeder** » 02 Nov 2007, 06:20

same here, I'm not playing hte demo in the hopes of something fresh for once....

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 02 Nov 2007, 08:49

Hmmmmm.
Can you imagine the uproar if they now lock out the config edits to stop you getting the DirectX 10 and Vista-only graphical effects stuff in DirectX 9 and XP.

TheSmJ · Post by **TheSmJ** » 02 Nov 2007, 09:15

I new about all this stuff and thought it was all done intentionally. I had a lot of fun playing with the extra stuff in the editor and look forward to that and more in the full game. If it wasn't for the editable config files I wouldn't have been able to fine tune my settings the way I like. Made a lot of sense having them there IMO.

As for the DX10 stuff being made available in DX9, I don't see how that harms EA or Crytek.

redgun · Post by **redgun** » 02 Nov 2007, 09:34

it harms M$ as they want to sell vista, which has only limited advantagess so far. now that the major reason for anyone to buy vista (DX10) is available under XP, the 'advantages' of vista are even fewer.

Post by **g00seberry** » 02 Nov 2007, 12:54

I thought this was intentional. Crytek always said they were gonna release the full editor with the demo so people can get started on making mods and new maps straight away. Having the entire game script there might be a slip up though...

Post by **MobsterOO7** » 02 Nov 2007, 15:09

it harms M$ as they want to sell vista, which has only limited advantagess so far. now that the major reason for anyone to buy vista (DX10) is available under XP, the 'advantages' of vista are even fewer.

What advantages? From what I hear Vista isn't any better for games than XP. Check out this Gamespot article, from those comparison images I see a at best minimal improvement in eye candy and a significant reduction in frames per second.

Also, I found another article on DX 10 vs DX 9. No frames per second values but it shows the image comparison, in Bioshock. It only supports my position that DX 10 has a long way to go before it even remotely impresses me.

Vroshnak · Post by **Vroshnak** » 02 Nov 2007, 15:29

The title of this thread may want to mention what game this is about?

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 02 Nov 2007, 18:33

What advantages? From what I hear Vista isn't any better for games than XP. Check out this Gamespot article, from those comparison images I see a at best minimal improvement in eye candy and a significant reduction in frames per second.

Exactly.

Oh ... and I added Crysis to the title.

Here is a link to some good comparison shots ... DX10 v DX9 ... http://uk.gamespot.com/features/6182140/index.html?tag=topslot;title;2&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot

also ... maybe a DX10 effect we haven't seen yet ... http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost.php?p=1335211114&postcount=793

Mesh · Post by **Mesh** » 03 Nov 2007, 00:06

With all the news fuss about dx10 not being all that thanks to that crysis demo hack it seems many possibilities are left out of the spotlight by most.
- the developpers didn't do much dx10 stuff to begin with (farcry's 64bit advantage or lack thereof anyone?)
- dx10 is -not- only about the eye candy
- I'm pretty sure many 'dx9-only' or 'dx10-only' effects could be reproduced even back in dx7 or heck, in open gl, more work sure, impossible? hardly, same as to why deus ex in an 'older/inferior' engine beats the (censored) out of many recent games. Especially once you add-in user-made textures upgrades.

here's an easy example to remember:

take UT3 engine, input scene with 2 4 face rectangular tubes in a T shape

take quake1 engine, input scene with imported UT2004's robot boss model (name's escaping me atm)

compare renders and claim quake1 wins the eye candy prize:
true fact in those settings, yet lacks a major part of the overall picture.

diehardDanny · Post by **diehardDanny** » 07 Nov 2007, 16:28

As a former game developer, this reminds me of our hassle with the releases and the many people working on the files and versions.... If one hasn't ever experienced such a situation, he won't know what I'm talking about ...

A project as huge as this, this comes as no surprise to me .... it gets even worse when deadlines are missed and everyone is in a hurry, a lot worse ... :lol:

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