Unreal Tournament 3 Beta

JulianP · Post by **JulianP** » 12 Oct 2007, 21:46

Well, just like in Bioshock (and pretty much in every UE3 game, from what I've heard) the widescreen FOV is messed up in UT3 beta. Screenshots:

I hope they get it right for the final version, but if not... we is need teh hax. :<

Edit: With the "fov 100" command:

Strangely, it doesn't effect the gun though.

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 12 Oct 2007, 22:01

Welcome to the forum .... 8)

Yep ... here is where this was reported first ... pants stuff from Epic.

You can alter it though in UT III up to a maximum of 100 ...
Bring down the console by pressing the Tab key and type in ...

fov 100

I don't know if this will fix it correctly though as I have only tried it in TrilpleHead and it isn't enough for Triplehead and I can't find a way to make it stay at the chosen FOV.
It resets once you die.

JulianP · Post by **JulianP** » 12 Oct 2007, 22:18

Thanks. :) I was following the whole Bioshock thing, but I just never got around to registering here.

I tried it and it does work. 100 seems to be just right for 16:10. ^_^
Even so, the reseting is annoying.

I'll add a screenshot where the "fov 100" command is being used.

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 12 Oct 2007, 22:38

Thanks for the screenshot ... it seems 16:9 users are out of luck then if the fov 100 seems so right for 16:10 and won't go any wider ... :(

baracus2k · Post by **baracus2k** » 12 Oct 2007, 23:14

that wont work properly im afraid... every time you respawn it resets back to 90.... surprise surprise :evil:

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 12 Oct 2007, 23:54

that wont work properly im afraid... every time you respawn it resets back to 90.... surprise surprise :evil:

I did say that ... :wink:

... I can't find a way to make it stay at the chosen FOV.
It resets once you die.

JulianP · Post by **JulianP** » 13 Oct 2007, 00:17

Uploaded a better pic, inspired by the one for Bioshock :)

baracus2k · Post by **baracus2k** » 13 Oct 2007, 00:39

[quote]that wont work properly im afraid... every time you respawn it resets back to 90.... surprise surprise :evil:

I did say that ... :wink:

... I can't find a way to make it stay at the chosen FOV.
It resets once you die.

oops didnt notice... still this sucks... i really expected better from epic

Post by **g00seberry** » 13 Oct 2007, 00:52

After the numerous deletions of the widescreen threads on the Epic forums, it's not a huge surprise.

Elios · Post by **Elios** » 13 Oct 2007, 01:24

so lets digg this too and get a that screen shot to Kotaku :D

Badmagic · Post by **Badmagic** » 13 Oct 2007, 05:10

Anyone tried changing the line "FOVAngle=90.000000" yet thatâ€™s within "UTEngine.ini" located:

Vista
"X:UsersUserNameDocumentsmy gamesUnreal Tournament 3 DemoUTGameConfig"

Xp (guessing)
"X:Documents and SettingsUserNameMy Documentsmy gamesUnreal Tournament 3 DemoUTGameConfig"

Just to see first if it works then second if it overwrites or not, there is also a reference to default fov for online play within the "UTGame.ini" in the same folder, I would presume thatâ€™s the one that would mess up though if itâ€™s a server controlled option to adjust FOV.

Elios · Post by **Elios** » 13 Oct 2007, 05:18

heh some one post this over on epics forums

Destroy · Post by **Destroy** » 13 Oct 2007, 07:05

It truly is a sad day for PC gamers when such a classic that is UT has turned into such pathetic console leftovers.

The lack of effort by Epic put in to this supposed AAA PC game is appalling.

Now we know why all those threads on Epics site were deleted. Lame.

Edit: I see a large discussion is already underway on the widescreen issue.
http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=578675

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 13 Oct 2007, 08:48

Badmagic ... that "FOVAngle=90.000000" is for the Editor Engine.
the only way to change it is as described above and that isn't good enough as it won't go over 100 and it resets when you die.

At 100 the FOV it isn't good enough for anything over 16:10 ... so ... 16:9 and TripleHead users are out of luck.

How long have I been saying this about this UTIII engine ?
Every UT III title to date has had a widescreen related problem.

:lol: ... and 2K (Bioshock) said it was a design decision ... :lol: ... you have to laugh at the PR nonsense.

capable heart · Post by **capable heart** » 13 Oct 2007, 13:19

I tried changing the FOV through console commands and I found that it is locked to values ranging between 80 and 100. (Haven't tried the .ini file myself, but I'm not holding my breath for it.)

Personally I like an FOV of 108 for 16:10 and 120 for 16:9, so I hope a solution will be found that will work online.

JulianP · Post by **JulianP** » 13 Oct 2007, 14:11

Design decision my ass. That was a pretty ridiculous claim from 2K. Someone said in the widescreen support thread at the Epic forums that Windows Vista and a DX10 capable card are needed to enable AA. Is this true? Since when has AA been a DX10-only feature? :roll:

PunishedOne · Post by **PunishedOne** » 13 Oct 2007, 17:25

Design decision my ass. That was a pretty ridiculous claim from 2K. Someone said in the widescreen support thread at the Epic forums that Windows Vista and a DX10 capable card are needed to enable AA. Is this true? Since when has AA been a DX10-only feature? :roll:

Seems that you don't know the rendering method UE3 uses. UE3 uses Deferred Lighting, which means it's almost impossible to have AA running at the same time because of the way the lighting works.

See here for more details: http://www.beyond3d.com/content/articles/19/

Mesh · Post by **Mesh** » 13 Oct 2007, 18:14

In this day and age it is an insult to gamers everywhere to create a game without AA. The hardware has the ressources for it, that you change the lighting for whatever reason is fine, that you sacrifice AA or anything else over it isn't. You can't use the standard AA that's been used for years with your 'revolutionnary new engine'? fine, but you'll have to pick up the slack and find an AA replacement made by you to compensate. Aliasing is no longer to be tolerated.

JulianP · Post by **JulianP** » 14 Oct 2007, 02:28

Seems that you don't know the rendering method UE3 uses. UE3 uses Deferred Lighting, which means it's almost impossible to have AA running at the same time because of the way the lighting works.

See here for more details: http://www.beyond3d.com/content/articles/19/

Yeah, I didn't know that. Thanks for the link. Still, I must agree with what Mesh said. AA ftw.

Post by **Abram** » 14 Oct 2007, 02:48

Pfffft.

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