Calling all Nvidia video card owners!

sipitai · Post by **sipitai** » 21 Nov 2006, 18:31

Hi everyone,

If you own a Nvidia video card and a widescreen monitor, I'd like to know if you've been able to get the "Fixed aspect ratio scaling" or "Do not scale" ("Centered output" in the classic control panel) options in the Nvidia control panel to work for you?

If you could post the following details your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Video Card: Brand and model...
Driver: Version...
Operating System: Operating System, Service Pack, etc...
Monitor: Brand and model...
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working / Not working...
Do Not Scale: Working / Not working...

I'd like to back from those of you who have, and haven't, got this working. In other words I'd like this thread to be an informal database of combinations that do and don't work.

Thanks!

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My details:

Video Card: Nvidia 7600GT
Driver: WHQL 93.71 - 169.21
Operating System: Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2
Monitor: Samsung 940BW
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Not working *
Do Not Scale: Not working *

* When I select either "Fixed aspect ratio scaling" or "Do not scale", then click "Apply", the aspect ratio of the picture on the monitor becomes distorted (i.e. expanded horizontally and / or contracted vertically). See photo (the settings in this photo are 800x600 and "Do not scale"). If I check the information section of the monitor's OSD, it says the resolution is 1280x1024.

From what I can tell, instead of drawing the lower resolution (i.e. 800x600) in the centre of the native resolution (i.e. 1440x900) and then outputting this to the monitor, the driver is drawing the lower resolution in the centre of 1280x1024. This is then scaled by the monitor itself to fit its native resolution (i.e. 1440x900), which results in the distortion.

To demonstrate...

In example photo A I've drawn a 800x600 red square in the centre of a 1440x900 image, then resized it to fit the original photo.

In example photo B I've drawn a 800x600 red square in the centre of a 1280x1024 image, then resized it to 1440x900, then resized it to fit the original photo.

You'll notice that in example photo A the red square doesn't match the picture on the monitor, where as in example photo B it matches it perfectly.

My assumption here is that this problem is caused by a bug in Nvidia's driver that occurs when using it in combination with a widescreen LCD monitor that supports a resolution with a greater number of pixels than the native resolution (i.e. where the native resolution is not the "maximum" resolution). My monitor has a native resolution of 1440x900 (1296000 pixels), but supports a maximum resolution of 1280x1024 (1310720 pixels).

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moleman · Post by **moleman** » 21 Nov 2006, 19:50

Video Card: XFX 7800GTX
Driver: 93.71
Monitor: Dell 2405FPW
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working

Post by **maherie** » 21 Nov 2006, 21:55

Video Card: evga 7900GTX
Monitor: Dell 2005FPW
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working

emanuel.en · Post by **emanuel.en** » 21 Nov 2006, 22:12

Video Card: Dell 2x 7900GTX
Monitor: Dell 2407WFP
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working

ForceWare: 93.71

Spongeh · Post by **Spongeh** » 21 Nov 2006, 22:38

Video Card: BFG 2x 7900GTX
Monitor: Dell 2407WFP
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working

Post by **BongoTrumman** » 21 Nov 2006, 22:58

Video Card: Nvidia reference card 7950GT 512MB
Monitor: HP L2335
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Not working
Driver: 92.91 modified by TweaksRUs

Am2Widescreen · Post by **Am2Widescreen** » 22 Nov 2006, 04:21

Video Card: Nvidia xfx card 7950GT 512MB
Monitor: SyncMaster 244T
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working

DaFox · Post by **DaFox** » 22 Nov 2006, 05:03

EVERYONE FROM THIS POINT ON PLEASE READ!

Please insert your Driver version!

sipitai · Post by **sipitai** » 22 Nov 2006, 07:33

Please insert your Driver version!

Good point. I've updated the original post.

SCAc1d · Post by **SCAc1d** » 22 Nov 2006, 08:12

Video Card: XFX 7900GT 520M
Driver: 93.71
Monitor: Dell 2407WFP
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working

Bluesilentpro · Post by **Bluesilentpro** » 22 Nov 2006, 12:04

Video Card: BFG 8800GTX
Driver: 97.02
Monitor: Dell 2407WFP
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working

Obes · Post by **Obes** » 22 Nov 2006, 14:11

Video Card: XFX 7600GS AGP 256MB
Driver: 93.71 (also tried Xtreme-G tweaks-R-US modded ones)
Monitor: Benq FP92W
Centered Output: Not Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Not Working

Only thing worse then playing an old 4:3 game with black bars is playing it in super fat mode.

TheSmJ · Post by **TheSmJ** » 23 Nov 2006, 07:17

I've got two cards tested:

Video Card: EVGA 7600 GT
Driver: 93.71
Monitor: Sceptre X20G NAGA 3
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working

Video Card: AOpen Geforce 2 MX400
Driver: 93.71
Monitor: Sceptre X20G NAGA 3
Centered Output: Not working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Not working

Trx Stamp · Post by **Trx Stamp** » 23 Nov 2006, 12:54

Video card: XFX 7900gt
Driver: 93.71
Monitor: Xerox XR6-19Dw
Centered Output: Not Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Not Working

Jupix · Post by **Jupix** » 23 Nov 2006, 13:23

Video Card: MSI (primary) & PNY (secondary) 7800GTX 256M SLI
Driver: 93.71
Monitor: Dell 3007WFP
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working

MisMatch · Post by **MisMatch** » 23 Nov 2006, 13:41

Video Card: 2x XFX 7800GTX 512Mb xxx
Driver: 93.71
Monitor: Samsung 244T
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 23 Nov 2006, 16:10

Will check at the weekend what driver version I'm running...

Obes · Post by **Obes** » 23 Nov 2006, 23:43

Upate

Video Card: XFX 7600GS AGP 256MB
Driver: 93.71 (also tried Xtreme-G tweaks-R-US modded ones)
Monitor: Benq FP92W
Centered Output: Not Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Not Working

Video Card: XFX 7600GS AGP 256MB
Driver: 87.08
Monitor: Benq FP92W
Centered Output: Not Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Not Working

Video Card: XFX 7600GS AGP 256MB
Driver: 84.98
Monitor: Benq FP92W
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Not Working

ps. 97.02 with modified inf files ... don't work at all.

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 24 Nov 2006, 19:41

Video Card: 6800GT (AGP 256MB)(Gainward)
Driver: 71.89
Monitor: Dell 2005FPW
Centred Output: Functional
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Functional

Video Card: 6800GS (PCI-E 256MB)(XFX)
Driver: 84.26
Monitor: Dell 2405FPW
Centred Output: Functional
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Functional

Video Card: 7300GS (PCI-E 512MB TurboCache)(Asus)
Driver: 91.47
Monitor: Dell 2405FPW
Centred Output: Non-Functional
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Non-Functional

Video Card: 7900GTO (PCI-E 512MB)
Driver: 91.47
Monitor: Dell 2405FPW
Centred Output: Non-Functional
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Non-Functional

Bear in mind that the Dell screen have FARS and Centred in their own hardware. Setting the signal to 1:1 allows the card to control what happens rather than the screen. The last three cards were in exactly the same system; the only thing that changed was the GPU and driver version.

Right now, I'm kinda tempted to say that the 90 series drivers have broken support for two things: card-controlled scaling and driver resolution integration support.

Bet · Post by **Bet** » 26 Nov 2006, 09:04

Video Card: eVGA 7900GT
Driver: 91.47
Monitor: Dell 2007WFP (S-IPS)
Centered Output: Working
Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling: Working

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