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Jedediah
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Post by Jedediah »


http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=13049860
When you open the box, a big slip of paper falls out first, preceeding any discs or manuals. The slip of paper says, essentially, that 2142 includes monitoring software which runs while your computer is online, and records "anonymous" information like your IP address, surfing habits (probably via cookie scans), and other "computing habits" in order to report this information back to ad companies and ad servers, which generates in-game ads.

Now, I can live with certain in-game ads (though apparently there will be Dodge truck and Neon ads in the bleak, futuristic world of 2142), but including a lengthy description - outside of even the Eula - seems to indicate even EA knows that this is some shady borderline spyware ****. I don't support it and won't be buying 2142 (for a host of other reasons, too).


Sickening. They should at lest make this a option. Letting you decide if you want to participate or not. But it appears to be one of those terms and agreements things. Were AFTER you buy the game you must agree to be spied on and allow you be ad to death in the game, or else you can't play. Bleh I say.
emanuel.en
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Post by emanuel.en »

and? do you have to hide something? :lol:

That isn't an good idea from EA but who cares?
Not me, but the ea haters! :P
Microtia
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Post by Microtia »

Uhm. I hate that argument. "If you have nothing to hide, what do you have to fear". Let me know how you feel about that when all governing bodies feel like just invading your home. Of course, you won't mind because you have "nothing to hide" right? :roll:

This is complete BS on EAs part and it's just another reason not to buy BF2142.
neoWidescreen
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Post by neoWidescreen »

I also hate that expression. It's like saying "If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear from daily cavity searches." EA is already a making millions; there's no justification for ads unless it meant a reduction in game cost. And as for spyware - there's no justification whatsoever.


This is not the game to be introducing in-game advertising. A game like GTA would have been a wiser & more logical choice to debut this technology.


...though apparently there will be Dodge truck and Neon ads in the bleak, futuristic world of 2142...



What a bleak future... :shock:
Microtia
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Post by Microtia »

I guess they're like cockroaches :P.
Gecko
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Post by Gecko »

Uhm. I hate that argument. "If you have nothing to hide, what do you have to fear". Let me know how you feel about that when all governing bodies feel like just invading your home. Of course, you won't mind because you have "nothing to hide" right? :roll:

This is complete BS on EAs part and it's just another reason not to buy BF2142.


Fully, 100% agreed. I fookin' HATE that sh!t. :x :evil: You've paid for the right to play the game, not to have them spy on your system or internet preferences. People need to stand up against this crap, or it will continue unchecked. I wouldn't care what game this was, if it had this crap, I wouldn't buy it/play it.
The Mighty Wimp
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Post by The Mighty Wimp »

:? Sucks.. I never bought BF2.. this one looks fun, but just to many iffy things..
DasFox
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Post by DasFox »

and? do you have to hide something? :lol:

That isn't an good idea from EA but who cares?
Not me, but the ea haters! :P


Your are completely missing the point here, as in clueless.

Sorry I don't mean to sound harsh or rude, but try to get a slight idea of what this is, if you can.

I hope your fellow Germans aren't as clueless and non-caring as you.

ALOHA
L3TUC3
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Post by L3TUC3 »

I'll allow generated ads in my game, but why on earth do they need to monitor my system?

Yet another reason not to buy bf2142.
Living Ghost
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Post by Living Ghost »

http://www.pointofexistence.com/

That + BF2 = Best FPS in Existence

And, if you are wondering what the Point of Existence is, well...It is, to eat cake, when and where there is cake.
emanuel.en
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Post by emanuel.en »

...

just

...

This "spyware" isn't scanning for personal informations! It is just scanning your ip-adress and some other anonymous informations to send/show you adverstisments! There are just some guys who are paranoid and are hyping this shit. :roll:

So if you are thinking this is bullshit, you can't use steam for example. Steam makes the same thing, the only difference is that valve isn't using this information for advertisment, instead of this, they are using it for statistics.

For the console-gamers: XBOX-Live collecting informations too.

To my sentence with "do you have to hide something": I ment computer informations, ip-adress and stuff like that.
Microtia
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Post by Microtia »

There is no reason they need to scan my system to generate ads for a game that is costing the same price as all other games out. Ingame ads are meant to lower the price of the game.

So which is it for EA, lower the price with ads or get rid of the damn ads.
Jedediah
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Post by Jedediah »

I know I personally feel that if a game is going to have ads, then it should be free to play. The ads are paying for the development cost so it seems ridiculous to me to pay money to play something ad ranched. But sadly, we do that already for TV. Ads pay for the programing, Tv show cost, and prodcasting. Yet somehow consumers are still stuck with a $30 a month bill to pay for things already paid for. All we are realistically doing is paying for the privilege of watching those ads, or playing a game with ads. its so greedy that I wont even touch BF2142 because of this. I wont be apart of their corporate rule and treat my privacy as if I was a bug in a jar. And so I thought maybe you guys would like to know about this too. I'm happy that majority of us all feel the same.

Generally though I hate in game ads. Developers aren't allowed to really make them look like they belong in the game cause the sponsors want to the ads to be as noticed as possible. A example of this be like playing BF2 now. But when you walk into a construction site all the inside walls have the same new movie release poster every 3 feet. On every wall. As if someone would really walk into a building and hang 20-30 posters of a US movie in the Middle East :p if they want to do in game ads do some clever ones. Like, give people a dodge truck to drive instead of seeing a perfectly preserved dodge truck billboard.
emanuel.en
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Post by emanuel.en »

There is no reason they need to scan my system to generate ads for a game that is costing the same price as all other games out. Ingame ads are meant to lower the price of the game.

So which is it for EA, lower the price with ads or get rid of the damn ads.


One idea could be that the advertisment will be personalised. Like Jedediah posted they could maybe scan your cookies. So if you are often surfing on sites about "karate" for example you maybe get advertisments about clothes or something. Implausibly (right word?!) but possible. :lol:
Jedediah
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Post by Jedediah »

Heh, what would happen if we went to Anti-EA Spyware sites all day? :P
emanuel.en
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Post by emanuel.en »

Heh, what would happen if we went to Anti-EA Spyware sites all day? :P


:lol:
Microtia
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Post by Microtia »

If it was a google game, I could see personalized ads. This isn't google :P.
Living Ghost
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Post by Living Ghost »

Erm...Steam only checks game times, logons, stuff like that...

They don't track what you do, outside of the use of their software...
neoWidescreen
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Post by neoWidescreen »

Heh, what would happen if we went to Anti-EA Spyware sites all day? :P


ROFL... you make me want to buy the game now! :lol:


Seriously though, if you did visit anti-EA websites you could expected masked men to kidnap you from your home. The next six months of your life will be spent in a "re-conditioning" facility where you are exposed to EA propoganda. Those that survive come out pro-EA and believe 4:3 monitors are the future & widescreen is just a fad. Those of us that have escaped live now underground... and have severely overactive imaginations. :p
L3TUC3
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More news:

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=11290
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