Nvidia's next line

DaFox · Post by **DaFox** » 08 Jan 2009, 22:28

AMD learned from the 754/939 fiasco. I think Intel might learn from i7/i5. ;)

Once can only hope... because this is complete rubbish.

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 08 Jan 2009, 22:46

I've been thinking about this, and since the rest of the discussion has been public, I'll make this public too.

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Frag Maniac:

If you have a problem with Tamlin or myself, or our conduct, take it up with Ibrin.

But don't go dragging the community this forum has tried to build into it. Gaming and hardware, particularly on the PC, are deeply linked. Widescreen gaming, until very recently, was a fairly high-end past-time, so tended to draw enthusiasts. Hence the hardware discussion.

You want more discussion about games... you've made a thread about your GTA4 videos, so make more threads about more games! :) They won't all take off, but if people are interested in the game in question, they'll join in. What little gaming time I get, recently, seems to be spent gaming, rather than discussing gaming. If I like a game, I'll be playing it. If I don't like a game, I won't want to be playing it, but equally I won't want to be discussing it either. What little non-gaming free time I have had in the last six months seems to be exclusively taken up by the WSGF.

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Enough said on this matter.

Post by **BHawthorne** » 10 Jan 2009, 12:00

Back to the topic of price tanking on the first generation 200 series cards. My initial hint was when I got the 260 open box from newegg the other day for $157. My current find I simply find insane. Buy.com has the EVGA GTX280 SSC for _$200_ listed right now. Sounds like they're pushing hard on GTX285 and the GTX280's are EOL. I just picked up 3 from buy.com about 30 minutes ago. Man, I still can't believe I got GTX280's for $200. :shock: :shock: Last week I would have never though I'd be relegating a 260 to a physx card and being tri-280 in the computer I'm currently building. I'm building on the Foxconn Destroyer mobo, so I'll be ok for 4 200 series as far as slot room. Now what the heck PSU do I need to run 4x 200-series and a 125W Phenom II? :shock:

BTW: On a separate note, this means I'll have to go back to triplehead from quadhead. tri-sli only works in vista or newer. That means I'll have two brand spanking new DDH2G and a Samsung 245BW up for grabs shortly. I'll probably ebay list them. Alternately, anyone want to trade a DTH2G for those 2 DDH2G and a small bit of change?

EDIT: The SSC has reverted to pre-sale price but there are other 280 deals still active in the post below.

Soduka · Post by **Soduka** » 10 Jan 2009, 17:05

Now what the heck PSU do I need to run 4x 200-series and a 125W Phenom II? :shock:

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-12.17b.html

Post by **BHawthorne** » 10 Jan 2009, 17:34

[quote]Now what the heck PSU do I need to run 4x 200-series and a 125W Phenom II? :shock:

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-12.17b.html

I think I'll pass on the micro-nuclear power plant... :lol:

JosephJEHancock · Post by **JosephJEHancock** » 10 Jan 2009, 19:31

You will want at least a 1000w PSU for that, and that is not just the usual exaggeration (most high end PCs might use 600-700w). Looking at Trubritar's videos on YouTube, running 2 4870X2s and then 3 GTX280s, he was actually drawing 800 watts...

...so get a good PSU.

Post by **MobsterOO7** » 10 Jan 2009, 20:22

Buy.com has the EVGA GTX280 SSC for _$200_ listed right now.Direct from buy.com:
http://www.buy.com/prod/evga-geforce-gtx-280-ssc-1gb-gddr3-512-bit-pci-e-sli-supported-video/q/loc/101/208290483.html

False

Buy.com Total Price: $317.99

It's not nice to tease Ghimpi...

Post by **BHawthorne** » 10 Jan 2009, 20:27

[quote]Buy.com has the EVGA GTX280 SSC for _$200_ listed right now.Direct from buy.com:
http://www.buy.com/prod/evga-geforce-gtx-280-ssc-1gb-gddr3-512-bit-pci-e-sli-supported-video/q/loc/101/208290483.html

False

Buy.com Total Price: $317.99

It's not nice to tease Ghimpi...

I'm not teasing. The SSC were $220 + $20 mail in rebate until about 11am today. I bought 4 @ the $220 price at 1:50am this morning.

Here you go for simular listings:

EVGA GTX280 SC $211.49: http://www.buy.com/prod/evga-geforce-gtx-280-super-clocked-1gb-gddr3-512-bit-pcie-2-0-sli/q/loc/101/208290487.html
or
BFG GTX280 OC2 $237.99: http://www.buy.com/prod/bfg-geforce-gtx-280-oc2-1gb-gddr3-512-bit-pci-e-2-0-directx-10-video/q/loc/101/208353392.html
or
XFX GTX280 $239.99: http://www.buy.com/prod/xfx-gx280nzdf9-geforce-gtx-280-1gb-ddr3-pci-express-2-0-sli-ready/q/loc/101/208237674.html

I don't tease. Not my problem if you didn't get an SSC in time. :P

Post by **MobsterOO7** » 10 Jan 2009, 20:55

OK so I added one of those 200 dollar ones from that new link Ghimpi. But when I view it in my cart the total is over 350 dollars. WHY? :cry:

Post by **BHawthorne** » 10 Jan 2009, 21:04

OK so I added one of those 200 dollar ones from that new link Ghimpi. But when I view it in my cart the total is over 350 dollars. WHY? :cry:

Not sure, I find it hard to believe that Buy.com has all their 280's with screwed up pricing. I'm just hoping my buy goes through from 1:50am. I'm gonna be mad if they cancel my order. They've had my money since then and I got transaction confirmations from both paypal and buy.com order receipt.

Post by **MobsterOO7** » 10 Jan 2009, 21:22

They've ninjad it back to the higher price.
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Post by **BHawthorne** » 10 Jan 2009, 21:37

They've ninjad it back to the higher price.
D :

I just got conformation that at least some of those cards are going out at the sale price. One guy on the EVGA forums just confirm his SSC purchase of 2 just went from processing status to shipping status. At least some people are getting the deal. Mine are still in process though. Man, I hope I didn't mess up my deal by going with the slower processing on free shipping. For whatever the reason I just did the math on all the deals. They were all set to 54% off for some reason. I think I'm gonna wear out my F5 refesh button at the rate I'm at it. Ug, I'm really hoping mine do go through like a few of the others so far. I put through my orders at 1:50am.

Post by **MobsterOO7** » 10 Jan 2009, 21:49

Wait a second... you work for eVGA.

WHY are you buying you're video cards?

Post by **BHawthorne** » 10 Jan 2009, 21:52

Wait a second... you work for eVGA.

WHY are you buying you're video cards?

Work? All mods over at the EVGA forum are from the forum user pool. We're offered the option of doing VoIP CSR work for EVGA, but one doesn't have to be employed by them to be a community forum mod there. You made a bad assuption about my employment. :wink:

Post by **MobsterOO7** » 10 Jan 2009, 22:00

Sorry my brain is tired from today's buy.com antics.
BTW I was right. It was all a big tease. Maybe not by you, but teasing definitely ocurred.

Post by **BHawthorne** » 10 Jan 2009, 22:04

As far the EVGA employees getting video cards, they're cheaper at Newegg pricing than the employee pricing program. One of the perks the mods are supposed to have is access to EPP program, but thier pricing sucks.

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 11 Jan 2009, 20:18

The 'advantages' in purchasing kit for employees usually isn't very good.

I'm really impressed you picked up those for so cheap, Ghimpi. Want to sell one? ;)

Soduka · Post by **Soduka** » 11 Jan 2009, 22:36

Wonder if I could make a profit buying equipment in USD and selling them to Brits...

:lol:

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 11 Jan 2009, 22:45

Depends on the item in question.

The US frequently get sales that utterly pulverise any of the offers we get over here. All depends how much shipping would hit for, and whether import charges would make their mark. :(

Post by **Tamlin** » 13 Jan 2009, 09:08

@Frag Maniac:
As PS mentioned, take it up with Ibrin if you have issues with staff. Going to a length of saying we are not about games, only hardware is really wrong. The whole forum is founded on making solutions for games and hardware is an important thing for gaming experience. I have gamed for 28 years and used most of my vacation after Christmas to game, since I finally could. I'm extremely stretched for time, so that I don't spend much time chatting about a game and instead try to help with the little time I have to make forum members being able to enjoy theirs, isn't a bad thing. Its what communities are for.

We are not ATI campers or Nvidia campers either. When we talk about tech its about what our users and ourself can get out of the techs in games. As you might recall, I considered both ATI and Nvidia buying my current card and will also consider both upon next card.

DX10.1 is not an ATI or Nvidia product, but a Microsoft product. Lack of support of it from Nvidia hurts gamers, because DX10.1 benifits gamers. Here's one example:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTYwOCw4LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

We are not cheering DX10.1 because ATI supports it, but because its benificial to gamers and we want everyone to support it. Period.

DX10.1 does AA more efficiantly (more in a single rendering pass) and uses less resourses being optimized and all. If Nvidia would have supported DX10.1, we might have seen more patches as the one in Stalker - Clear sky. They will support it through DX11, which means that the userbase will be larger on DX10.1 (since DX11 and DX10.1 cards both can use it). Of course thats a benifit for gamers. You might interpete it as a PR for ATI, but for us it would still be a benifit if it was Nvidia only who supported it. You are not defending Nvidia from ATI when you discuss this with me, since I'm in the gamers camp, not the ATI/Nvidia camp. If you go against something that benifits gamers, due to some loyalty to Nvidia, then thats where your loyalty is. With Nvidia, not gamers community. Gamers takes whatever makes their game the best, regardless of brand. Now you spent a lot of time arguing against something thats proven it benifits gamers. For what? Loyalty to Nvidia? Where's your benift? Does it make your games run faster not having DX10.1? Does it help fellow gamers that can use DX10.1? Do you think Nvidia is going to thank you for it? Going against something that benifits gamers only hurt gamers. Its that simple.

My next card might be Nvidia. I don't care about that, since I'm going to game with it and thats why I buy it. Not because its green or red.

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