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Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 08 Mar 2010, 03:30
by Squalish

5x1 is not currently supported. 6x1 is currently supported. The limit of 8K in any dimension must be adhered to independently of the monitor configuration.

You would think we would support any arbitrary nx1 configuration, yet we don't at this time. That will come later.


With all due respect, why not?

You realize that these features have been on your website for months? You realize that your potential customers have waited, and waited, and waited for this card for the purpose of 5x1 play? That this is the only reason many gamers are even going to look at the eyefinity6 edition when we can get 3x1 2GB/gpu cards with the existing designs?

I understand you can't reveal much that's happening behind the scenes, but from my perspective as a potential customer, your management is shitting all over us by not funding your driver development team to move as fast as your marketing department's mouths. The fact that Nvidia wasn't as competitive as you expected makes this a reasonable business decision from an economic perspective. I understand that. You need to understand that when you show them something cool, enthusiasts invest their time in tracking your product long before release, not just their money at the point-of-sale. Your inability to deliver what you promised, to justify that time investment, is offensive, and makes them less likely to evangelize or even buy your product than they normally would be.

Even the much less ambitious Eyefinity website you put up recently still advertises PLP setups that you've said are a very low priority to enable.

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 08 Mar 2010, 18:24
by eyefinity09
[quote]Does anyone know if Eyefinity 6 will support 5 X 1 or 6 X 1, depending on display resolution. As I understand it, Eyefinity 6 has a 8K X 8K pixel limit when it comes to output resolutions. BTW. This is similar to Dual Quadraplex...


I can confirm that 5x1 is in the works in portrait mode. I have sources that confirmed that progress is being made on the 5x1-P mode with an internal driver release at ATI. I don't have a copy yet (or six monitors yet), but I can promise that the WSGF is at the top of the list to get this driver when support is ready.

I got Bezel Compensation months before it was announced in the 10.3 preview. 5x1-P may not be ready at Eyefinity6 launch (I don't know one way or the other), but I can assure you that your patience will be rewarded.

It's very strange why 5x1 would potentially not be available at launch. This, to me, meant either (1) the marketing guys at AMD didn't think 5x1 portrait is important (unlikely given that AMD Reps frequently visited this site) or (2) it is somehow more difficult to implement 5x1 portrait and they just have recently solved the snag that they discovered.

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 22:33
by Jalec
Is this truly delayed? or will it launch on the 11th?

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 05:14
by skipclarke
I do not know if it will make launch.

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 18:34
by suiken_2mieu
is it just me or is no one pffering a pre-order this card.

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 20:35
by skipclarke
Not sure. It is a pretty niche product. I can say that I received two of them in the mail today, and will begin my testing shortly.

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 20:47
by Magic Man
Tough job... :wink: :D

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 20:51
by bahnzii
is it just me or is no one pffering a pre-order this card.


I tried to start a thread and see if we can get some pre-order info, but it seems we are all in the dark at this point...

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 20:51
by bahnzii
Not sure. It is a pretty niche product. I can say that I received two of them in the mail today, and will begin my testing shortly.


Can't wait to see some results!!!

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 03:39
by skipclarke
Tough job... :wink: :D

After 6.5 years of running the site, it's nice to be on someone's "Good List." :rockout

I'm not complaining at all, but benchmarking really isn't much fun. It's running the same thing over and over to record a number. With doing a lot of it at once, you get to the point you just want it to be over. Over the last couple of weeks I've benchmarked the following:

Eight Video Cards: ATI Radeon HD 5450, 5550, 5670, 5750, 5770, 5830, 5850, 5870
In Four Resolutions: 1680x1050, 1920x1200x 5040x1050, 5760x1200
For Nine Games: Batman: AA, Battle Forge, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, GTA IV, HAWX, HL2 Ep2, HL2: LC, STALKER Pripyat
With: Three runs at every point

That's 864 total benchmark passes. I still have the Eyefinity6, the E6 in CFX and the 5970. I'm also planning on doing 3x1920x1200 in portrait for a comparison. And a few other things. Again, I'm not complaining, but it would be nice to actually get to "play" on the "good stuff." Hopefully soon. After I write all the reviews and articles to go with the numbers...

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 20:26
by doublejj0305
Hoping this isn't any indication of what the price will be...
https://www.sabrepc.com/p-191-ati-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition.aspx

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 20:31
by suiken_2mieu
Hoping this isn't any indication of what the price will be...
https://www.sabrepc.com/p-191-ati-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition.aspx

I saw this yesterday and laughed really loudly and obnoxiously. It it's that price, im gonna say f*** this and buy a 5870 and use my currunt 4870 and do SofTH.

But seriously, isn't this card supposed to be out today?

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 21:11
by Paradigm Shifter
Sabre PC are the same folks who put up GTX480/470's at insane prices too a couple of weeks back, so I wouldn't take anything they list as remotely accurate.

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 12 Mar 2010, 02:12
by duniek
Hoping this isn't any indication of what the price will be...
https://www.sabrepc.com/p-191-ati-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition.aspx

ZOMG :hide

I think 100$ more than regular 5870 should be good

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 15 Mar 2010, 15:55
by bountycode
Hoping this isn't any indication of what the price will be...
https://www.sabrepc.com/p-191-ati-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition.aspx


love the avatar pic!

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 23:33
by doublejj0305
any updates on release???

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 23:58
by houkouonchi
any updates on release???


Yeah I am wondering about this too. This seems like the perfect card for my dad's setup as he has a tripple monitor setup (vp2290b, dell 3007 WFP, dell 2407WFP) and the main problem is he is stuck to XP due to the fact that spanning doesn't work on windows 7 or vista. There are the three port ATI cards that can solve this but to get the full refresh rate on his vp2290b (3840x2400 resolution) that single monitor needs 4 DVI inputs and the other two monitors can run off one input each which would go perfect with the 6 outputs this vid card provides (all monitors would be able to be ran off one port and at the full refresh rate of the vp2290b).

Right now its taking two video cards (one only running off an PCI-E x1 slot) and the vp2290b isn't getting the full refresh rate it could (due to the fact its only being ran off two SL-DVI connections.

The main problem is that the spanning is absolutely necessary with a 3840x2400 resolution monitor as it needs to show up as a single monitor to the OS as it really is a single monitor!

I have been waiting patiently for this sucker to see how well it works on my dad's setup. I have a vp2290b as well but I run linux and thus don't have the limitations of no spanning and stuff like that.

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 00:13
by Dave Baumann
This may sound trite and a little annoying to those that are eagerly awaiting this board, but I (for the time being) am going to wheel out the "when it's ready" response. Sorry.

In Scott's HD 5830 review over at Tech Report he did give some indication as to why the Eyefinity 6 Edition hasn't been here before now. We are still working through some things that are the ramifications of that at the moment and we want to make sure we get it right. I believe the end point is in sight though. :)

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 00:16
by Paradigm Shifter
Hey, if the "done when it's done" is good enough for Starcraft 2, and Diablo III and Duke Nuk... wait, scrap that last one... ;)

Re: ATI Announces HD 5870 Eyefinity6

Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 02:57
by Anprionsa
Hey, if the "done when it's done" is good enough for Starcraft 2, and Diablo III and Duke Nuk... wait, scrap that last one... ;)


Hahaha... indeed.