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Need Help Deciding Which Stand to Purchase

Posted: 20 Jun 2017, 20:57
by Guest
Hi, I'm looking to mount three 27 inch monitors using a free standing desk stand, and Ergotech seems to be one of the only companies who makes such a stand, and so I have decided to buy one.

My question is besides the ability to mount a 4th monitor above the others is there any other differences between the Ergotech Triple Desk Stand with Telescopic Wings (100-D16-B03-TW), and the WSGF Ultimate v2 (100-D28-B15-V2). (The ability to have a fourth monitor mounted above the others is not something I would ever use). The WSGF stand is quite a bit more expensive, so is there some other reason to get it over the base Ergotech stand? I have the budget for either stand so if there are other tangible benefits to the WSGF one I don't mind spending the extra money to get it. Obviously though if the ability to mount a fourth monitor is the only big difference I would rather put the savings towards some other aspect of my setup.

Just for reference the three monitors I will be mounting will be two Dell U2715H's (which have very thin side bezels), and one Asus Rog Swift PG27UQ (once it's released and I can get my hands on one).

Any advice on which one I should buy would be appreciated, thanks.

Re: Need Help Deciding Which Stand to Purchase

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 04:27
by skipclarke
The Ergotech Triple w/ Wings was originally spec'ed at supporting 26" panels. As displays got lighter and the bezels go smaller, they retroactively updated the specs to support 27". The WSGF Stand was designed from the group up to support 27" panels. The Telescoping Wings are not "solid" and use an adjustable mechanism on a metal plate. The 5-segment bar used in the WSGF Ultimate is complete solid construction, and it offers a sturdier experience.

You can see a comparison of the two bars in the image on the page linked below. You can see how the WSGF 5-segment bar is significantly larger. Additionally, in his review of the Triple w/ Wings, Linus from Linus Tech Tips points out how 27" panels *BARELY* fit on the bar. You're not able to get much of an angle between the monitors. The WSGF Ultimate allows for a 45 degree angle between monitors, so you can set them how you like. You can see an example of how the better support of 27" panels in the stand with the JayzTwoCents review, which is also on this page.

http://www.wsgf.org/article/wsgf-monitor-stand-reviews

Re: Need Help Deciding Which Stand to Purchase

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 21:58
by Guest
Thank you for the reply, I will be going with the WSGF version.

Re: Need Help Deciding Which Stand to Purchase

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 04:43
by Guest
I have actually thought of two more questions if you don't mind. I currently only have two monitors as I wait for Asus Rog Swift PG27UQ to be released which will be my 3rd. I would like to get my two current monitors mounted to clear up some desk space, so my first question is can parts of the 5 segment bar be removed? I don't want the left side of the bar just sticking out with no monitor mounted to it, so if I could remove the left side of the bar, and have a clean look with just two monitors until my 3rd arrives at which point I would reattach the left side I would purchase the stand now. If not I still plan to purchase the stand, just after I get my 3rd monitor.

My 2nd question is do you offer any sort of discount for someone who doesn't need the bar that allows for the 3 + 1 configuration? I will only ever use the stand in the 3 X 1 configuration, so that bar would remain unused for me.

Re: Need Help Deciding Which Stand to Purchase

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 15:04
by skipclarke
You can remove the outer segments, but you'll need to be careful when reattaching to avoid cross-threading the holes. The bolts are steel and the bar is aluminum (which is softer). I do it routinely when I make the bar for the Mega, but just be aware to take care when reassembling. You can also try folding back those segments to start with.

We don't offer a stripped down version anymore. We used to offer two versions of the stand. One with just the tall pole for 3+1 and one with just the short pole for 3x1. Those were priced $399 and $349 respectively. When we consolidated to one SKU to serve both options, we were able to get some economies of scale and price at $374. You're only paying $25 more than the old 3x1 stand. And I've had more than one person who said they would "never" got 3+1, end up doing it at some point. It would cost you almost $100 to purchase the additional parts from Ergotech in the future.

Re: Need Help Deciding Which Stand to Purchase

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 16:13
by Guest
Thanks again for the responses, I think I now have all the information I need to go ahead and buy the stand in the next few days.

Re: Need Help Deciding Which Stand to Purchase

Posted: 25 Jun 2017, 06:38
by Guest
I have placed my order, can't wait for it to get here. Thanks again for your replies. Hopefully it doesn't take to long to get here!
:triplewide:

Re: Please Read - Stand Availability

Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 15:22
by unispeed
skipclarke wrote:
unispeed wrote:Just wondering if my order went out 1383. Thanks

It shipped out today. I've just sent out the order updates, with tracking numbers.


Im looking at a 27" monitor that has really tiny bezels and doing a 5x1P configuration. I noticed that under the stand page it says that under that configuration the maximum is 15" wide. These monitors are 15.5". Whats the tolerance on that 15" spec? Do you think 15.5 will work by having the screens a little bit flatter?

In addition to the stand I just bought from you I have a standard ergotech stand with telescoping wings. Would it work to replace the outer segments of your stand with the telescoping segments of the stock ergotech stand? It should more than make up for those extra 2.5" above spec.

The monitor in question is this one: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ace ... ,4936.html

Re: Please Read - Stand Availability

Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 15:49
by skipclarke
That config will be too heavy for the WSGF Ultimate, and the weight distribution will give problems. Along with being too wide. I've just re-added the Mega and the Mini Mega to the store. I've been out of stock on the custom parts needed to make them. I now have the parts on order, and an ETA on when I can ship - so I've added them back to the store.

Re: Please Read - Stand Availability

Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 22:04
by unispeed
skipclarke wrote:That config will be too heavy for the WSGF Ultimate, and the weight distribution will give problems. Along with being too wide. I've just re-added the Mega and the Mini Mega to the store. I've been out of stock on the custom parts needed to make them. I now have the parts on order, and an ETA on when I can ship - so I've added them back to the store.


holy cow those stands are big! but also beyond my current budget, lol. In any case it looks like the bar that spans it is the same, just modified to be supported in 2 spots. Also I noticed that there are some that are doing it on these very forums with the single pole stand. http://www.wsgf.org/node/22352 I dont mind if the arch is not as tight, I just wanted to know if it was possible and also if a 15.5" width would in practice work with the included bar. I also muuuuuch prefer the look of one foot on the desk as opposed to 2...

Re: Please Read - Stand Availability

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 01:08
by skipclarke
unispeed wrote:holy cow those stands are big! but also beyond my current budget, lol. In any case it looks like the bar that spans it is the same, just modified to be supported in 2 spots. Also I noticed that there are some that are doing it on these very forums with the single pole stand. http://www.wsgf.org/node/22352 I dont mind if the arch is not as tight, I just wanted to know if it was possible and also if a 15.5" width would in practice work with the included bar. I also muuuuuch prefer the look of one foot on the desk as opposed to 2...


A few notes on that build
- It was only one person who tried that setup - l88bastard
- The Samsung panels he used only weigh 11.5 pounds with the stand. Yours weigh 17.1 pounds.
- Taking the base off will reduce that, but I don't know how much.
- Acer doesn't list any weights on its site. I had to Google elsewhere for it.
- l88bastard also bezel stripped his panels and took off all the plastics - further reducing the weight and size
- He also had to manually tape the WSGF stand pivots to the back of his monitors with gaffers tape
- He had to tape the outer ones close to the "inside" edge of each monitor (rather than the normal center spot)
- This allowed the ends of his monitors to stick out much further than would normally be allowed
- l88bastard knew he was using the stand beyond the rated specs.
- The whole project was a mod for him, and he accepted the risk if it all failed

The bar is only rated for 75 pounds total. You would need your panels to be less than 15 pounds each to make it. And you'd really want less than that rating is keyed on a traditional setup of three monitors - 25 pounds each in left, right and center. You'd really want 12 pounds or less for each panel, so that the each outer pair came in under 25 pounds.

The stand is rated for how I can safely claim it can be used. If you want to try and go out of spec, then you do so at your own risk. I can't be held responsible if it all comes crashing down and your monitors or the stand get damaged. I understand that the single base looks better. But I can't promise that will work.

Re: Please Read - Stand Availability

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 01:19
by unispeed
skipclarke wrote:
unispeed wrote:holy cow those stands are big! but also beyond my current budget, lol. In any case it looks like the bar that spans it is the same, just modified to be supported in 2 spots. Also I noticed that there are some that are doing it on these very forums with the single pole stand. http://www.wsgf.org/node/22352 I dont mind if the arch is not as tight, I just wanted to know if it was possible and also if a 15.5" width would in practice work with the included bar. I also muuuuuch prefer the look of one foot on the desk as opposed to 2...


A few notes on that build
- It was only one person who tried that setup - l88bastard
- The Samsung panels he used only weigh 11.5 pounds with the stand. Yours weigh 17.1 pounds.
- Taking the base off will reduce that, but I don't know how much.
- Acer doesn't list any weights on its site. I had to Google elsewhere for it.
- l88bastard also bezel stripped his panels and took off all the plastics - further reducing the weight and size
- He also had to manually tape the WSGF stand pivots to the back of his monitors with gaffers tape
- He had to tape the outer ones close to the "inside" edge of each monitor (rather than the normal center spot)
- This allowed the ends of his monitors to stick out much further than would normally be allowed
- l88bastard knew he was using the stand beyond the rated specs.
- The whole project was a mod for him, and he accepted the risk if it all failed

The bar is only rated for 75 pounds total. You would need your panels to be less than 15 pounds each to make it. And you'd really want less than that rating is keyed on a traditional setup of three monitors - 25 pounds each in left, right and center. You'd really want 12 pounds or less for each panel, so that the each outer pair came in under 25 pounds.

The stand is rated for how I can safely claim it can be used. If you want to try and go out of spec, then you do so at your own risk. I can't be held responsible if it all comes crashing down and your monitors or the stand get damaged. I understand that the single base looks better. But I can't promise that will work.


I understand. So is the bar that comes with the twin foot version of the stand any wider than the bar that comes with the standard one? Without the stands I think I will come close the 75lbs. Can you link me to the tread where it shows how he set up his panels?

Re: Please Read - Stand Availability

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 03:19
by skipclarke
Here's an article I posted about it - http://www.wsgf.org/article/wsgf-edition-stand-27-5x1-p

Re: WSGF Ultimate Desk Stand v2

Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 08:21
by rothzack
I am wondering how you "label" the contents of the shipment.

I am from the EU (Belgium) and I really like the stand, been looking at it for a few years almost.

Problem is, this stand would cost me around 664€ if the "value" was set as total. (Shipping + street price) since there's so many extra import % added.. :wtf:
Labeling only the value of the actual stand (375$) would net me around 482€ after tax.
Also depending on the type of "product" it changes the outcome. :? (electronics, hardware, metal,...)

To be clear, I am not asking you to commit fraud and label it as a 1€ "empty" :shh: "giftbox".
I just want to be sure I don't run in to weird situations when I go and pick up the stand. :crazy:

Currently, buying the ergotech version on amazon UK and then import the upgrade bar is cheaper, it would be around 374€, bit I don't really want to go that route.
I'd spend the extra 100€ to have all the parts come from you, (for ease & bragging rights :rockout: ) but if it goes into the 200€ range I might as well just do the work around. (Not that big of a fan 8-) )

Thanks in advance,
Ralph

In case I have to go with the work around:
Is there a difference between the models listed as "100-D16-B03" (what you say on the kit page) and "100-D16-B03-TW" models.

Re: WSGF Ultimate Desk Stand v2

Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 14:11
by skipclarke
The online US Postal form I use online requires me to submit the value of the stand, and it automatically includes the shipping costs on the form. No way around that. I label the contents as "office furniture".

The "B03" model is the standard triple offering from Ergotech. The "B03-TW" is the model with the telescoping wings. The WSGF model uses our custom 5-segment bar, which is wider than the TW bar and more stable. You can see a comparison of the TW and 5-Segment bar here: http://www.wsgf.org/article/wsgf-monitor-stand-reviews (pic in the middle of the page).

Re: WSGF Ultimate Desk Stand v2

Posted: 25 Jul 2017, 22:55
by blackstar2e
Hey guys,

Igot one question to the monitor stand..

Whats the diameter of the pole? I can´t find that information anywhere on google and i know u guys have some experience with this product ;)

Re: WSGF Ultimate Desk Stand v2

Posted: 25 Jul 2017, 23:24
by skipclarke
blackstar2e wrote:Hey guys,

Igot one question to the monitor stand..

Whats the diameter of the pole? I can´t find that information anywhere on google and i know u guys have some experience with this product ;)


OD is 1.5"

WSGF Ultimate Stand V2 Wall Mount Availability

Posted: 27 Jul 2017, 17:51
by CortexM4
Is there any chance you will sell the wall mount accessory again? I've been running with the WSGF V2 Desk Stand for over 2 years and just moved and want to save some desk space. If not, any tips on what I could do to make one?

Re: WSGF Ultimate Stand V2 Wall Mount Availability

Posted: 27 Jul 2017, 20:30
by skipclarke
Sales of those slowed to a crawl about a year ago. I did a sale to sell the inventory. I can post the parts you'll need. Let me check my kit when I get home.

PS - Sorry i hadn't replied to your email yet.


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Re: WSGF Ultimate Stand V2 Wall Mount Availability

Posted: 27 Jul 2017, 20:34
by CortexM4
No worries! I saw you checked the forums relatively frequently so I thought I might as well post here. Thanks for helping!