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Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 08:45
by suiken_2mieu
So... I have been trying to buy one of these forever. Here's the places I've found selling them. (With Stock)

diaboloshop.nl - € 116,25 (Dutch)

Detronshop.nl - € 116,13 (Dutch)

Everit.se - 933 Krona (Swedish) (~$140)

centralpoint.nl - € 116 (Dutch)

Zercom.eu - € 109,80

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 08:45
by suiken_2mieu
thadius856 wrote:
suiken_2mieu wrote:
Turbomipper_NL wrote:Have been waiting so long for this hub, like many others i presume.
But now it seems i need 2 of these to enable 5x1P (and hopefully 5x1P+1) with my 6970.
And with most games being so demanding i better get a 7970/7990 first... :wtf:

Remarkable its a Dutch company to first deliver the long awaited MST hub :cheers:

Well, it may be cheaper just to get a card with 6 outputs if you're buying a new card anyway.

Here's a list that needs updating that I put together. I currently have 2 MSI Lightnings and they can do up to six outputs. The reason I want this hub, is so that in the future I can run 5x1 Portrat on screens that require Dual-Link connections (such as 5 2560x1600 monitors or 5 120Hz Monitors) or that if I wanted, I could buy a reference card in the future and still have a lot of outputs to populate.


This. Using the 7970 DC2 for 5x1 right now. Tossed in a vanilla non-ref 7970 for a little extra oompf.

Earlier tonight:

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Sorry, my camera's less than stellar.

What monitors are you running? Also, what did you do to get around tearing? I have tearing on every monitor accept the main one.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 17 Jul 2013, 10:15
by Kakee
Now stock amazon. Cheapest in hardwareversand.de

But how DVI dual-link works on this? Different model with DVI?

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 17 Jul 2013, 12:05
by Haldi
You either use 3x DP to DL-DVI adapters or other hardware from Matrox/Dadapath or such.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 17 Jul 2013, 16:35
by Oraijon
Found a couple more shops for it:

http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/331947/c ... 9-hub.html

Cheapest one just below 100 EUR. All Dutch, but not sure which of them actually send stuff abroad.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 20:33
by duniek
Any tests?
I am wondering if you have to use native DP monitors or maybe active vga/dvi adapter will work.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 01:19
by thadius856
suiken_2mieu wrote:What monitors are you running? Also, what did you do to get around tearing? I have tearing on every monitor accept the main one.


Sorry, been away on travel.

5x Dell U2412M.

As far as tearing, turn on V-sync and it goes away for me.

Tearing seems to be very game-dependent. Arkham City never tears and only stutters once every 15 mins or so. Planetside 2 tear every time I rotate a little bit... it's an FPS, so pretty much constantly.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 07:05
by suiken_2mieu
duniek wrote:Any tests?
I am wondering if you have to use native DP monitors or maybe active vga/dvi adapter will work.

Passive adapters are supposed to work. It has tdms clocks imbedded.

Anyone buy one from the US? I want one, but not sure where I should get one from. I'd feel better if it was from amazon, or somewhere in the US.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 22:18
by Kakee
You can orded Amazon.co.uk.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 23:03
by suiken_2mieu
Kakee wrote:You can orded Amazon.co.uk.

Well, I tried. Cant ship to the US.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 21 Jul 2013, 10:27
by Kakee
Different seller? @ £116 price.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 12:24
by suiken_2mieu
Kakee wrote:Different seller? @ £116 price.

Damn, that's expensive. $186 usd. Why cant we get a company to unleash it over here instead of importing.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 26 Jul 2013, 17:41
by chieftex
Guys, are you mainly interested in ADDING (up to) 3 monitors to your current setup with this device? Or is it using your current setup in a different way? Or both perhaps?

I'm just trying to understand exactly what this is capable of.

In theory, could you run one very long display port cable from your vid card to your monitor, and then have this thing at the end right next to your monitors, with 3 short cables from this device to your monitors?

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 06:15
by suiken_2mieu
chieftex wrote:Guys, are you mainly interested in ADDING (up to) 3 monitors to your current setup with this device? Or is it using your current setup in a different way? Or both perhaps?

I'm just trying to understand exactly what this is capable of.

In theory, could you run one very long display port cable from your vid card to your monitor, and then have this thing at the end right next to your monitors, with 3 short cables from this device to your monitors?

I have 5 monitors, my cards can do up to 6, the issue is that I get massive tearing on all monitors except one depending on how I set it up. I need at least 5 connections that are the same, hence getting one of these. ATM I'm running 3240x1920 instead of 5400x1920. My 5870 Eyefinity 6 was better than my 7970's.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 19:45
by Kakee
No news from Accell/Bizlink?

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 07 Aug 2013, 11:48
by Turbomipper_NL
Fot those who are interested, yesterday i finaly found a proper review (still only 3 pages) of the Club 3d MST display hub.
Its from a (dutch) site i read daily:
http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/4700/club-3d-mst-hub-review-drie-schermen-op-een-displayport-aansluiting
(copy paste in google translate for the few who cant read dutch?)

The conlusion is that it does what Club 3D promisses :clap:
(there is even a Club 3D representitive answering questions from readers in the article reactions section)

One of their conlucions is that laptop owners with a dp1.2 VGA card have no problem adding 3 monitors on top of the laptop screen... try carrying that around hehehe :twisted:
I for one never thought of my laptop but instead am dreaming of a 5x1 portrait gaming setup for so long now.
With a 6970 i know that the eye candy cant be maxed out, and to prevent tearing i need 2 hubs at about 100 euro's a piece.
And for a crossfire setup we need de v2 of the micro stutter prevention catalyst driver, which isnt out yet... :eh:
Not to mention the dilemma of waiting for a Radeon HD9000 rumoured to launch in a couple of months :crazy:

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 15 Aug 2013, 21:45
by Haldi
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsec ... temid=1064

another review. they say NVidia surround doesn't work?

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 20 Aug 2013, 10:49
by Mict
Hi, I just got this device and I've been testing it for a bit. I got it in preparation for a 5x1 Eyefinity setup. I currently have a GTX680 and can confirm that Nvidia Surround doesn't work (at least with 320.18 driver):

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Also, it doesn't seem to have enough bandwidth to drive three 1440p displays:

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I can get two at 1440p but the third stays at 720p.

One surprise was that the device didn't come with a power cable (from AC adaptor to wall), fortunately I had a matching one from my laptop.

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 04 Sep 2013, 22:12
by Mict
Testing this hub in Linux now, still the same limitation. Not sure if it's the graphics card or the hub.

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(--) NVIDIA(0): Valid display device(s) on GeForce GTX 680 at PCI:1:0:0
(--) NVIDIA(0):     CRT-0
(--) NVIDIA(0):     HP ZR2740w (DFP-4.1) (connected)
(--) NVIDIA(0):     HP ZR2740w (DFP-4.2) (connected)
(--) NVIDIA(0):     DELL U2711 (DFP-4.3) (connected)
(--) NVIDIA(0):     DFP-0
(--) NVIDIA(0):     DFP-1
(--) NVIDIA(0):     DFP-2
(--) NVIDIA(0):     DFP-3
(--) NVIDIA(0):     DFP-4 (boot)
(--) NVIDIA(0): CRT-0: 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(0): HP ZR2740w (DFP-4.1): 960.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(0): HP ZR2740w (DFP-4.1): Internal DisplayPort
(--) NVIDIA(0): HP ZR2740w (DFP-4.2): 960.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(0): HP ZR2740w (DFP-4.2): Internal DisplayPort
(--) NVIDIA(0): DELL U2711 (DFP-4.3): 960.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(0): DELL U2711 (DFP-4.3): Internal DisplayPort


Two of the three 1440p displays work in 2560x1440 but the third has to be 1280x720, no other mode seems to work, not even lower resolution ones.

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(EE) NVIDIA(0): DisplayPort validation failed for MetaMode
(EE) NVIDIA(0):     "DPY-6:2560x1440+0+0{rotation=left},DPY-7:2560x1440+2880+0{rotation=left},DPY-8:1280x800+1440+0{rotation=left}"

Re: Club 3D Announces MST Display Hub [TPU]

Posted: 05 Sep 2013, 12:15
by suiken_2mieu
Interesting, I knew about only being able to have 2 2K displays, but I find the 720p only limitation for the third display strange.