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Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 21:45
by bowenac
+1 to vsync quastion!
And adition I am interested in DX1011 compability.

And the main quastion: if it's K to throw TH2GO in a can and start using nVidia surround? Or is there some problems still in nVidia Surround drivers?



I don't see how vsync would not work, it is needed for 3D Surround AFAIK so assuming it would work with 2D Surround.

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 00:39
by tineras
I hope I'm overlooking something, but is there a way to maximize a window to only 1 screen like with the TH2Go? This was one of the greatest features that Matrox implemented. I hate when a window spans all three monitors and you have to manually adjust it each time. This can get VERY annoying.

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 00:48
by Tamlin
:oops: Whoops! I am very embarassed. You are right. I did not read the sticky at the top. I got so accustomed to coming to this subform and bypassing the sticky threads looking for new posts. :doh

If my tiny brain can help it, I won't do that again!


Hehehe... :P I catch myself doing the same thing.

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 03:28
by wazoo
I hope I'm overlooking something, but is there a way to maximize a window to only 1 screen like with the TH2Go? This was one of the greatest features that Matrox implemented. I hate when a window spans all three monitors and you have to manually adjust it each time. This can get VERY annoying.


Agreed. What I find I'm doing with these new drivers is switching to surround only when I want to game. I switch back to non-surround and then my desktop works like it did under my TH2Go; i.e. I can maximize to a single monitor.

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 05:34
by Mythiasis
Is working beautifully for me.

2x GTX285 on 3 Samsung 24" with Win 7-64b

Runs in native resolution of 5760 x 1200 and so for WoW is running fine.

Now to figure out what to do with this Matrox box.

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 06:22
by bowenac
Is working beautifully for me.

2x GTX285 on 3 Samsung 24" with Win 7-64b

Runs in native resolution of 5760 x 1200 and so for WoW is running fine.

Now to figure out what to do with this Matrox box.



Do you have any other games besides WOW, anything new, you should post some results.

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 06:29
by Mythiasis
Do you have any other games besides WOW, anything new, you should post some results.


Not at the moment.

Playing EVE currently.

I've got BF:BC2 and MW2 I could try out. Borderlands, Dragon Age, Team Fortress 2.

I'll do some more testing tomorrow.

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 06:34
by bowenac
[quote]Do you have any other games besides WOW, anything new, you should post some results.


Not at the moment.

Playing EVE currently.

I've got BF:BC2 and MW2 I could try out. Borderlands, Dragon Age, Team Fortress 2.

I'll do some more testing tomorrow.

BFBC2, MW2, would be cool, borderlands does not work well in Eyefinity Surround so not sure how that will work. At least I have never been able to find the correct FOV for 5760X1200 for that game. Everytime I run the screen flips upside down haha.

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 10:48
by thales100
Oh my ... Running a tri sli of GTX 480, now its really worthy, the performance boost over the matrox DE adapter is simply incredible, in Crysis Warhead i.e. all the GPUs are stressed to near 99%, the same happens in Clear Sky. :bowdown

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 11:36
by tepescovir
So can anyone confirm that vsync works and is caps the framerate to 60 on 60 hz monitors?
I'll buy 2 480's tommorow if i can get an answer, Please

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 12:53
by tineras
[quote]I hope I'm overlooking something, but is there a way to maximize a window to only 1 screen like with the TH2Go? This was one of the greatest features that Matrox implemented. I hate when a window spans all three monitors and you have to manually adjust it each time. This can get VERY annoying.


Agreed. What I find I'm doing with these new drivers is switching to surround only when I want to game. I switch back to non-surround and then my desktop works like it did under my TH2Go; i.e. I can maximize to a single monitor.

:doh Honestly, I had not even thought of that. Thanks!

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 15:09
by matrices
Figure I'd share some of my own anecdotal experiences:


Performance is pretty damn good at 6040x1200 (bezel corrected), 4xMSAA, all options max, in the games I've tried.

Bad Company 2 runs between 40 and 60 FPS (using vsync and triple buffering through D3D Override). Batman usually runs at 60 FPS - but there is currently a problem with Physx and Surround, it seems, so you need to turn off Physx otherwise you'll get like 2 FPS. Serious Sam HD runs at 50 to 60 FPS. Wings of Prey was between 40 and 60.

Also, overclocking makes a big difference. I run two profiles - one stock (to keep down energy consumption), and the other for gaming, which runs both cards at 1.087mv and 800/1600/1950 clocks. I get a 15 to 20% FPS boost as soon as I switch profiles.

The card temps climb radically, too. My water temps on idle, with both cards downlocked, are 31 to 33C. Under load, bottom card goes to almost 60 C and top card 50C.

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 15:12
by tricky
Quick note to SoftTH users, new 2.0 pre-alpha version just came out, and initial results are excellent. The main benefit is having different screen resolutions and can do portrait, landscape, portrait. Plan to get a 27" center monitor soon to go with my 22" sides and test it out versus nVidia Surround (just ordered a second GTX 470)...fixed issues I was having with GTA IV, Aliens vs Predator, and even got Frontlines - Fuels of War working with GeneralAdmissions's fov hack (thanks!)...

Nice to have options!

[url]http://www.kegetys.net/forum]

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 15:38
by MaxDarklighter
So again quastions for nVidia Surround users:
...adition I am interested in DX1011 compability...

and
...is there a way to maximize a window to only 1 screen like with the TH2Go?

Yes we can use different profiles. But can we do it just the way Matrox do it?

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 20:16
by frag85
I've been using SOFTTH for a while now and tried out these 258.69 beta drivers and they seem to work great, when they work. Frame rates are excellent and scale well with SLI (1.7-2x the frame rate in ArmA2) compared to what i was getting with SoftTH with 1 card rendering. The only problem is if I launch Windows Live Messenger, watch an AVI file in Media Player Classic or encode video using VirtualDub I get a 0x0000003b BSOD. Another problem is launching a lot of games in 3840x1024 or 4800x1200 the system will just freeze and the center monitor will go into stand by. Has anyone else experienced this?

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 10:43
by Unknownsock
And finally, yes, no Display Port.


To be fair for the majority i bet a DP port would be less hassle and money than 2 SLI cards.

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 11:19
by mixfloors
So again quastions for nVidia Surround users:
[quote]...adition I am interested in DX1011 compability...

and
...is there a way to maximize a window to only 1 screen like with the TH2Go?

Yes we can use different profiles. But can we do it just the way Matrox do it?


Not sure on the drivers compatability with DX 10/11 and havnt looked honestley.

But for spanning a single screen, all I do is keep the open window minimised and enlarge the boarders of the open window to the size I want (full single screen if you want) , I never have need on my gaming computer to have any particular window maximised, other than for a few photos. This gives me full screen viewing and two other screens to do what ever else I want at the same time. Works for me. :D

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 15:08
by bowenac
[quote] And finally, yes, no Display Port.


To be fair for the majority i bet a DP port would be less hassle and money than 2 SLI cards.

Not if you already have monitors and have to buy ALL new monitors just so you can use DP, but no one does that anyway, they just buy the $100 adapter.

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 15:15
by Tamlin
[quote][quote] And finally, yes, no Display Port.


To be fair for the majority i bet a DP port would be less hassle and money than 2 SLI cards.

Not if you already have monitors and have to buy ALL new monitors just so you can use DP, but no one does that anyway, they just buy the $100 adapter.

Or the $29 HP DP -> VGA adapter which seems to be pretty decent and troublefree :) :
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06c/A10-51210-64268-1844682-64268-3895841-3895842-3895844.html?jumpid=oc_R1002_USENC-001_HP%20DisplayPort%20To%20VGA%20Adapter&lang=en&cc=us

Re: 3D Vision Surround drivers are out!

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 15:31
by bowenac
[quote][quote]

To be fair for the majority i bet a DP port would be less hassle and money than 2 SLI cards.


Not if you already have monitors and have to buy ALL new monitors just so you can use DP, but no one does that anyway, they just buy the $100 adapter.

Or the $29 HP DP -> VGA adapter which seems to be pretty decent and troublefree :) :
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06c/A10-51210-64268-1844682-64268-3895841-3895842-3895844.html?jumpid=oc_R1002_USENC-001_HP%20DisplayPort%20To%20VGA%20Adapter&lang=en&cc=us

VGA yea that would look great now wouldn't it, have you ever ran a digital to analog before it does not look that great.

One of your monitors would look different, or are you going to use all VGA. That would then defeat the purpose of getting high end monitors if you are going to run them on VGA haha.