proposed Console Games list....

[DaFox]

I don't know wtf MK:A is doing. The aspect doesn't change at all, still 4:3... just zoomed in.

Looks stretched. But without 'real' screen captures I can't be 100% certain.

[Deusfaux]

if it's stretched, it's because there is no actual widescreen support, despite the game supposedly having it. it's 4:3 content being stretched to fill the 16:9 screen.

Yet the option is there in the menu. It's like a false-hope widescreen. Someone else I read described the same experience with the game.

enabling widescreen does enact a change, though I seemingly don't have the photo to show it better. (enabled and the tv set to 4:3) Basically, it's a more zoomed in 4:3 fullscreen. It's very strange, and I guess, broken. It's not anamorphic, it's not letterboxed, and it's less FOV.

[Deusfaux]

new findings:

Beyond Good & Evil............... letterboxed 4:3
Full Spectrum Warrior............... Vert-
Mech Assault 2 : Lone Wolf............... mostly Vert-/Hor+
Prince of Persia: The Warrior Within ............... Hor+/Vert+
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones............... Hor+/Vert+
Super Monkey Ball Deluxe............... Hor+
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory............... Hor+


photos to follow, tomorrow

[Deusfaux]

Beyond Good & Evil............... letterboxed 4:3, regardless of Xbox setting. no actual widescreen support
4:3/16:9



Full Spectrum Warrior............... Vert-
4:3

16:9


Mech Assault 2 : Lone Wolf............... mostly Vert-/Hor+ (notice the complete lack of mountains in widescreen)
4:3

16:9


Prince of Persia: The Warrior Within ............... Hor+/Vert+ (increased FOV all around)
4:3

16:9


Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones............... Hor+/Vert+ (increased FOV all around)
4:3

16:9


Super Monkey Ball Deluxe............... Hor+
4:3

16:9


Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory............... Hor+
4:3

16:9

[Deusfaux]

I wish there was more interest in this.

[Abram]

Well.. if a console game is vert-, what can be done about it, other than immense community pressure on developers for a fix in a patch? Bioshock is the first one that comes to mind.. did the console versions ever get the FOV fix/option that the PC version did? I just hope that now with every TV being sold is wide, that we'll start seeing an end of vert- games. Maybe once 4:3 is no longer considered will we get proper widscreen. But then, perhaps 2.39:1 will take place of 16:9. :lol:

[Deusfaux]

Well.. if a console game is vert-, what can be done about it?

Ensure users are educated about what's the baseline intended FOV, and to not run at an aspect that'll subtract from it.

ie, don't assume it'll look better or you'll see more if there's a widescreen option.

That would be the point of such a list/database.

ie. DO run Guitar Hero in widescreen mode.

DONT run GTA games in widescreen mode.

[Deusfaux]

does anyone know the deal on Metroid Prime 1 and 2 vs the Trilogy on Gamecube?

[Davros]

Here is a huge list of console games and their native resolutions (along with aa type)
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

I just hope that now with every TV being sold is wide, that we'll start seeing an end of vert- games. Maybe once 4:3 is no longer considered will we get proper widscreen.

not this generation. consoles just dont have the horsepower to render at widescreen tv resolutions

[Deusfaux]

does anyone know the deal on Metroid Prime 1 and 2 vs the Trilogy on Gamecube?

Hor+ ? Vert-? Combination?

[Deusfaux]

I have returned with some new reports (images to follow)

Beyond Good & Evil is a little bit Vert+/Hor+ in the HD version compared to the original which was fully letterboxed

Devil May Cry 1 and 2 are a combination of Vert- and Hor+ in the HD Collection compared to the originals

Metroid Prime 1 is Hor+ in the Trilogy compared the original

The other games I have and thus would like to test but I dont necessarily have access to both versions in the same location

Bully PS2 vs 360
Burnout Revenge Xbox vs 360
Devil May Cry 3 vs HD Collection
Fable vs Anniversary
God of War 1 /2 vs HD Collection
Guitar Hero 2 PS2 vs 360
Halo vs Anniversary
ICO vs HD
Kingdom Hearts vs HD Remix
Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess GCN vs Wii
Metal Gear Solid 2 /3 vs HD Collection
Metroid Prime 2 vs Trilogy
Okami vs HD
Perfect Dark vs HD
Rez vs HD
Shadow of the Colossus vs HD
Silent Hill 2 /3 vs HD Collection
SoulCalibur II vs HD
Zone of the Enders 1 /2 vs HD Collection

[Deusfaux]

Pikmin 2 - New Play Control! on Wii is Hor+, though lots (all?) of the HUDs are stretched.