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I hear them say "anonymous information" all the time but they wont go into detail about what that is. It could be as smiple as checking the IP addresses of player you game with, or as advance as sending off all your cookie information.

Doesn't really matter what it is. They aren't telling you before purchase and they're serving you ads while still keeping the games price the same. Plus all the other BS they're pulling with 2142.

"anonymous information" and "collect your IP address" are oxymorons... with users being who believe this being the bigger moron. :roll:

Despite the statement that the software doesn't suck up personal identifiable information, it's caused enough concern for a Digital Illusions employee to move to calm fears.

"Data will only be gathered from in game. Web browsing and other profiling data is not being gathered... The purpose of the gathering is to determine if an ad is viewed by players,"
the employee posted in the forums of fansite Total Battlefield 2142.

I still think it's disgusting. You still have no choice when you buy the game but to be monitored in this way. It's more the princibles rather than what data they actually suck up. So it isn't personal at the moment, but if people accept this, how long until it is?

Knowing EA? Probably not very.

and? do you have to hide something? :lol:

That isn't an good idea from EA but who cares?
Not me, but the ea haters! :P

lol that is right so may i have that information of yours please

emanuel.en you're still missing the point, this slowly over time sets the pace for the future to allow more invasion of privacy.

Yes it's not much now, but if it's not stopped try to imagine what this will be like 10 years from now?

You know what I see possibly here?

Many people around the world firmly believe video games lead to violence, true in some cases, but not all, so with the world more violent in 10 years, how would you like that if all games you buy register who you are, and have all the information on you?

Name, address, date of birth, citizenship, all civil and government records, so that they can monitor you to make sure you are not a potential threat, and if you ever look like you are posing a threat they come for you, because through the use of this great monitor software you can be tracked and found.

You think there are no possibilites for such a thing to ever happen? Guess again, and that is what this type of software brings, these possible changes, because right now these types of software are the mildest forms of that future.

That is possibly what our future holds, software that keeps a real eye on you.

ALOHA

Spyware, plus now you may even need to uninstall one of the Windows Sercurity Updates! :( Man it sucks. cause i installed the BF2 demo and i had alot of fun. ( way more than the 360 BF:MC ) IF, IF, BF2142 didnt havbe these 2 issues, i would go and get it.

About the spyware. It's illegal. Many states in the US classify software as a good under the Uniform Commercial Code. Per the UCC, once a purchase of a good is made, the vendor cannot add any additional conditions or restrictions relating to the purpose. Since the slip of paper is not outside the box, this means that the consumer only finds out after the purchase.

I do intend to fire off a letter to the Attorney General regarding this.

Wow. This is really lame news. As frustrated as I am with EA, I was still wanting to buy 2142. Mostly because a friend of mine really loves BF2 and the 2142 demo. I am not cool with data mining and reporting. I certainly don't want to see McDonalds billboards on a game that costs me $50. Not to mention how out of place these corporate advertisements will be in a dystopic post-apocalyptic world.

EA you are forcing me to hate you.

Speaking of how much EA sucks, has anyone noticed the lettering on the jeeps in the game "Company of Heroes"?

If you zoom into the allied jeeps, you will see in bold white letters "3A5UX".

I guess the developers don't care much for EA either.

Well after hering about this $50 spyware... I would have been shocked if it was any one other then EA... but Iv come to accept the fact that this is normal bussness for them...I could see there being spyware in a free game... but i mean come on you are still paying Full price 4 it. EA will just keep getting away with crap like this as long as we keep giving them our money...


Well when I first saw that 2142 was coming out and knowing how much of a pice of crap Bf2 was and how it still feels like a beta game... I thought of the best quote ever to discribe 2142....

"Out of order? Fu©k! Even in the future nothing works!" -Dark Helmet (Spaceballs)



also this just makes me want to go and D/l this game off the net and burn it and give it to evey one I know... I dont see this as stealing because they will still be making money off it from the people that pay them to put ads in the game..no wait i would not even want to d/l this game.... time to boycot EA once and for all....

Thing is, BF2142 is still selling like hotcakes despite EA's/DICE's history, the price of the game regardless of the ads, as well as any issues with the game looking almost like a BF2 mod.

EA are basically like any successful political party. They can do whatever shit they like, screw with the voters any way they like, but they don't care because they'll still get voted in time and time again. How much better can it get for them? :lol:

as well as any issues with the game looking almost like a BF2 mod.

Almost? I hear ya man... It basically is just a mod that costs $50. They even still have the same bugs that were in BF2. I cannot believe that the create/join squad is still as buggy as it was/is in BF2.

Unfortunately I have a very over-zealous friend who LOVES BF2 and BF2142, so I will probably have to get it so he stops bugging me about it.

I personally thought Battlefield 2 was one of the most over-rated games ever.

EA is really a horrible company, they are notorious for in game ads but this is just insane.

In game ads can be ok if they fit the context, for example seeing a Best Buy in Need for Speed Underground 2 was fine to me, it helped the city seemed more believable. It wouldn't really be ok in something like Trackmania though.

. They even still have the same bugs that were in BF2. I cannot believe that the create/join squad is still as buggy as it was/is in BF2.

Actually joining a squad when you die is impossible to prevent using the squad system as an alternate spawnbase and immediately leaving them once spawned. You can only join squads when you're alive, the only exception being when you join a server.

[quote]. They even still have the same bugs that were in BF2. I cannot believe that the create/join squad is still as buggy as it was/is in BF2.

Actually joining a squad when you die is impossible to prevent using the squad system as an alternate spawnbase and immediately leaving them once spawned. You can only join squads when you're alive, the only exception being when you join a server.

Oh... my... God...

It all makes so much sense now! Thanks Lettuce!






EA still sucks though...

"Out of order? Fu©k! Even in the future nothing works!" -Dark Helmet (Spaceballs)

I love SpaceBalls... fantastic film! :D

Unfortunately I have a very over-zealous friend who LOVES BF2 and BF2142, so I will probably have to get it so he stops bugging me about it.

I have a solution: tie him to a chair and subject him to hour upon hour upon hour of all the bugs that BF2 had, without allowing him to play it. If he still says it's the best game ever, submit him for psychiatric evaluation. ;) :lol:

Not to mention the fact that they are hosting in-game ads on servers that are run on hardware that is not paid for by EA and on bandwidth which is also not paid for by EA.

Having ads in the lobby where it is EA's bandwidth is one thing, having ads in games that are not being hosted by them, on their hardware or on their bandwidth is another.

Not to mention the fact that they are hosting in-game ads on servers that are run on hardware that is not paid for by EA and on bandwidth which is also not paid for by EA.

Having ads in the lobby where it is EA's bandwidth is one thing, having ads in games that are not being hosted by them, on their hardware or on their bandwidth is another.

I don't understand the argument. When a commercial plays on your TV, isn't that taking your broadcast bandwidth? Does anyone question this? I know, you don't pay for network TV, right? But if you have cable or sattelite, you do pay for extended programming, and yes, the cable and sattelite companies are responsible for some of the advertising featured on those channels (not the networks).

I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong, but it's already a part of the society we inhabit. If you like the fact that we have free markets and competition, part of that process is advertising, and there are many ways to go about it. The fact that they're utilizing a medium that you're not accustomed to seeing advertisements in is really the issue I think. But as long as it's done tastefully, I'm not opposed to seeing advertisements in games. As long as they're not releasing a Middle Earth game with Gandalf drinking a Coke... :P

Back on the original topic though, I wholehartedly agree that neither EA nor anyone else has the right to deploy spyware onto your computer. Unfortunately this is another ploy by marketers to watch over your interests and online shopping habits. This may be very helpful information to them, but they must not be allowed to spy on people to obtain it, or as others have said, this will be just the beginning.

That's not exactly it. It would be like a camera company making their camera record advertisements along with your video.

The television stations have the right to run ads because they own the infrastructure and the broadcasting equipment. The camera companies don't get to run their ads for free on someone's TV station simply because they made the camera.

The same should hold true for EA. The fact is, these ads are being run on servers who's hardware was paid for by a third party and who's bandwidth is being paid for by a third party. And I'd be willing to bet that at least some of the game server's code is dedicated to managing those ads for all it's clients.

Then there is also the fact that the price of the game is still $50 US. If they are going to put in-game advertising the least they could do is reduce the starting price of the game.

[quote]Not to mention the fact that they are hosting in-game ads on servers that are run on hardware that is not paid for by EA and on bandwidth which is also not paid for by EA.

Having ads in the lobby where it is EA's bandwidth is one thing, having ads in games that are not being hosted by them, on their hardware or on their bandwidth is another.

I don't understand the argument. When a commercial plays on your TV, isn't that taking your broadcast bandwidth? Does anyone question this? I know, you don't pay for network TV, right? But if you have cable or sattelite, you do pay for extended programming, and yes, the cable and sattelite companies are responsible for some of the advertising featured on those channels (not the networks).

I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong, but it's already a part of the society we inhabit. If you like the fact that we have free markets and competition, part of that process is advertising, and there are many ways to go about it. The fact that they're utilizing a medium that you're not accustomed to seeing advertisements in is really the issue I think. But as long as it's done tastefully, I'm not opposed to seeing advertisements in games. As long as they're not releasing a Middle Earth game with Gandalf drinking a Coke... :P

Back on the original topic though, I wholehartedly agree that neither EA nor anyone else has the right to deploy spyware onto your computer. Unfortunately this is another ploy by marketers to watch over your interests and online shopping habits. This may be very helpful information to them, but they must not be allowed to spy on people to obtain it, or as others have said, this will be just the beginning.