HD 5870X2 support eyefinity?

thenjwaslike · Post by **thenjwaslike** » 03 Oct 2009, 18:20

not sure if this is covered in any other threads but does anyone know if the beast of a card supports eyefinity??

for all i know it has 2x dvi and 1x mini-DP and will be out sometime this month october, plus it takes a 6pin + 8pin connectors - anyone???

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news/video/ati-radeon-hd-5870-x2-images-surface/

Dave Baumann could u fill us in?!!?!?!

rtaylor07 · Post by **rtaylor07** » 03 Oct 2009, 18:33

All cards in the 5000 series will support eyefinity.

thenjwaslike · Post by **thenjwaslike** » 03 Oct 2009, 18:36

k good cuz i wasnt planning to crossfire 2x 5870's - just want 1 big card with most gpu power i can get..

then eventually get another 5870X2 when eyefinity supports crossfire (hopefully soon)

thenjwaslike · Post by **thenjwaslike** » 03 Oct 2009, 18:39

i still wanna hear it from Dave lol

rtaylor07 · Post by **rtaylor07** » 03 Oct 2009, 18:47

If you read all the different comments amd has made you can see that they say are keen on accepting that all the 5000 series cards will support eyefinity. I would draw the conclusion that the 5870x2 will only be released when the drivers support multi gpu crossfire acrossed eyefinity. I personally beleive that the drivers are already there and that amd will launch the 5870x2 and the new catalys when windows 7 launches. So far all benchmarks point toward the cards running best on windows 7 and as we know these are the only gpu's that support directx 11 at this moment.

I also have a feeling nvidia may release one of thier cards in the gt300 series around the same time windows 7 launches. If they wait until afterwards they will be falling behind by a large margin as ati will have already launched thier base models and thier multi gpu with the new drivers. Many enthusiast are early adopters and the real money is in these individuals.

Statements made by nvidia recently about thier fermi cards place suggestions that thier cards wil be far superior to ati's but as always we have to take it with a grain of salt as anycompany will claim thier product to be superior as to impress the consumer and plant the notion in thier head. Don't be brain washed!!!! 0.o wait for those benchies we all love ;p

Octoboy · Post by **Octoboy** » 03 Oct 2009, 18:50

CF issue should be resolved the moment the 5870x2 is available, since this card acutally is nothing more than a CFed 5870.
In other words, as long as Eyefinity doesn't support CF, a 5870x2 can't be advertised as an Eyefinity card.

YouTube · Post by **ViciousXUSMC** » 04 Oct 2009, 01:13

CF issue should be resolved the moment the 5870x2 is available, since this card acutally is nothing more than a CFed 5870.
In other words, as long as Eyefinity doesn't support CF, a 5870x2 can't be advertised as an Eyefinity card.

Not true, it could be and it would only use 1 of the 2 cores. Its very possible this happens if they do not fix the no CF issue by the time the card is due.

Seems right now even with 3x 24" monitors most games can max out but it would be nice to max out those few games that cant and leave the system a bit more room to grow.

I dont think I will upgrade to this card because I wont be able to sell the 5870 I already have more much to make up the cost and I cant fit 5870 CF in my case.

Dave Baumann · Post by **Dave Baumann** » 04 Oct 2009, 05:15

i still wanna hear it from Dave lol

Is this an annouced solution? If not, then you can guess my answer: No comment! :p

BTW - nice system case. Running one of them myself now, needed to move to it as my 5870 wouldn't fit in my old case!

thenjwaslike · Post by **thenjwaslike** » 04 Oct 2009, 08:14

thanks Dave lol yeah this case is gorgeous, i threw in a red led light to brighten up the guts a bit.

also, this case is actually enjoyable when viewed from the rear end - not alot of cases rear ends look hot as this one... that is unless the case somehow turns into a dragon and starts farting everywhere, then theres a big problem.

Octoboy · Post by **Octoboy** » 07 Oct 2009, 22:48

[quote]CF issue should be resolved the moment the 5870x2 is available, since this card acutally is nothing more than a CFed 5870.
In other words, as long as Eyefinity doesn't support CF, a 5870x2 can't be advertised as an Eyefinity card.

Not true, it could be and it would only use 1 of the 2 cores. Its very possible this happens if they do not fix the no CF issue by the time the card is due.

Yeah that's right. Interesting point you got there. Then it'd be absolutely pointless to get a 5870x2 at all (for the sole purpose of improving the performance of Eyefinity).

I really really hope ATI don't mess that up.

Darthdingo · Post by **Darthdingo** » 11 Oct 2009, 19:03

I really think the 5870X2 will support Eyefinity in the near future. That would be so silly to have a bad ass card like that or even Crossifre and not have it work for triple screen gaming for ATI's hottest new feature "Eyefinity" ?

We need more horse power if we ever want to run 3 - 30" Displays at 7680x1600res, one single 5870 will NOT do that.

I bet the 9.11 or 9.12 drivers open it up. Or which ever drivers ship with the 5870X2, and will be one of these

Post by **BHawthorne** » 11 Oct 2009, 21:53

You can extrapolate from previous communication that EyeFinity will have CrossFire capability in the future, hence the 5870X2 will work in the future. When that future is, is anyone's guess.

It's standard practice for unreleased products to not be spoken about though non-formal marketing channels. You're not going to get a definitive answer to this until it's on the shelves at a store and AMD has lifted the NDA on the product.

Octoboy · Post by **Octoboy** » 12 Oct 2009, 13:32

When that future is, is anyone's guess.

Pretty annoying. How hard can it be, seriously, to estimate how long it's gonna take to implement a very basic but neccessary feature? They've been showing off Eyefinity ever since early September. Now we're nearing mid October, and they still can't at least predict(!) when EF will support CF?

Sorry I sound so immature, but this really angers me.

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 12 Oct 2009, 13:39

To add some extra perspective...

When Matrox first released the TripleHead2Go, would you have been able to estimate when they sorted out Bezel Management? From what I remember, it took Matrox ages.

Octoboy · Post by **Octoboy** » 12 Oct 2009, 18:00

I think what angers me the most is that ATI don't decide on what role EF should play.
On the one hand, they promote it as THE gaming revolution, offering triple head gaming to a larger user group. EF = something special.
On the other hand, they reduce it to a mere bonus to the card, "don't blame us if it's not perfect, it's just a free extra you get with that card". EF=nothing special.

So, while they care enough to launch a press release on an aircraft carrier, showing off their new technology, they still lack the effort to tread EF as a full time project.

Dave Baumann · Post by **Dave Baumann** » 12 Oct 2009, 18:47

Octoboy, I don't see that as being the case at all. Just because we can't give you an answer on everything right now doesn't mean that its not a major focus for us, but of course, work on everything else doesn't stop for this facet.

One of the mandates for Catalyst being released every month was to provide regular performance, compatibility and feature improvements for users of our GPU's. With the capabilities that we have at the moment that last point, features, has actually been one of the weaker points over the past year or so. Eyefinity is really one of those technologies where it does open a lot more feature scope to continually bring in our driver updates.

thenjwaslike · Post by **thenjwaslike** » 13 Oct 2009, 09:00

"just lost my job, need money.
will work for active adapters,
need to support a family of 3 lcds for eyefinity"

man ppl need to learn how to save money and stop being picky.

l88bastard · Post by **l88bastard** » 13 Oct 2009, 21:52

I think what angers me the most is that ATI don't decide on what role EF should play.
On the one hand, they promote it as THE gaming revolution, offering triple head gaming to a larger user group. EF = something special.
On the other hand, they reduce it to a mere bonus to the card, "don't blame us if it's not perfect, it's just a free extra you get with that card". EF=nothing special.

So, while they care enough to launch a press release on an aircraft carrier, showing off their new technology, they still lack the effort to tread EF as a full time project.

And that is a shame, because as far as I see it, Eyefinity is the only thing really differentiating them from Nvidia right now. I like the green machine, but if you solve my PLP tripple monitor setup then you have my business. If not then why would I jump over to their card.

Its frustrating that they have an awesome idea, but that they dont have it all the way!

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 14 Oct 2009, 11:49

A large part of that is still the idea that EyeFinity (or any triple-screen action) is still high-end, and thus of potentially limited appeal. I'd be interested in knowing just how many people have taken nVidia up on their '3D gaming' thing with the glasses. :)

Regardless, mixed signals aren't a good thing, I agree. :)

Mesh · Post by **Mesh** » 15 Oct 2009, 06:17

One of the mandates for Catalyst being released every month was to provide regular performance, compatibility and feature improvements for users of our GPU's.

Not to sidetrack the thread or anything, but could you maybe put a word in to the Catalyst team to make driver updates not so time consuming? They're about the most often updated software on any gaming rig yet every time it's a major hassle.

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