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PostPosted: 24 May 2009, 09:59 
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Well, I'm clearly fighting a losing battle here and it seems that nothing I say makes any impact. But hey, thats how it goes in forums.

It seems that 70% of your statistics are made up, with the remaining 55% appearing incorrect.


When I started this thread I was not trying to start a spat war and get into nilly willies about hypothetical numbers and have someone be nit picky about everything I say. Whether I am the first one in a long time that has mentioned this, it has on relevance at all on the fact that the fish-eye is still present. From what I have read, and this IS a fact, there are many people that don't like it. When I said 90%, it's like a "passing comment" based on all the threads I have read. ie "The majority". Show me how many people have said they LOVE the fisheye effect in third person gaming??

If you look at our games database, you'll notice how difficult it is to get developers to make games TH2Go compatible to begin with.


Imagine how difficult it is to actually write the whole game in the first place. But they get that right...

Again, I will still maintain, there are games that call for the peripheral views for immersion and then there are games that don't. Hence why rfactor investigated the Multiple Viewports and they were praised for it. I'm just saying that Blizzard should do the same because FPS games are quick changing gfx which make you focus on your center screen all the time calling for immersion. WoW doesn't require that because you go into a mob, you kill kill kill and stand in 1 spot until the mob is dead. During this time, your character can still continue fighting while you can look around to anticipate your next move and then move on. Totaly different experience! WoW isn't the only game, LOTR, AoC etc. all the same.


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PostPosted: 24 May 2009, 11:23 
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Youre posting this in the wrong place. Post on the WoW forums and see if anyone can advise on a FOV adjustment or similar. You can adjust the FOV in Fallout3 to almost completely remove fisheye at the cost of feeling like you are were binoculars all the time. I prefer only a very minor adjustment.

Left4Dead has very noticeable fisheye, but it sits perfectly in the peripheral vision and almost adds to the game (the fisheye, obviously TH2G itself immensely adds to the game).

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PostPosted: 24 May 2009, 11:27 
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Thanks Matt, you're probably right. I should probably have gone to the WoW forums. :)

I just figured that I would ask the experts on the surround gaming. I really appreciate this site and all the information it provides. Where would we be. I was not actually trying to slate TH2G and I'm sorry if it came across that way. I happen to love my th2g but I just feel that it is only good for FPS games and games that call for immersion. When I play those games, I am on love! :)


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PostPosted: 24 May 2009, 17:58 
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....So you can't look around to anticipate a move with distortion on the outer edges?

I think you would have much greater problems if your perspective was skewed than if there was distortion, because while you would see the whole of an enemy or an object clearly, they would appear to be in a different location relative to the location of your character (center vs. side-screen).

I.E. it's removing your rear-view mirror with blind-spots on the sides and forcing you to play with only your side mirrors. Objects in game may be closer than they appear.


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PostPosted: 24 May 2009, 19:35 
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....So you can't look around to anticipate a move with distortion on the outer edges?

Of course I can but it looks horrible.
Objects in game may be closer than they appear.

Actually, at the moment it's exactly the opposite. The objects look almost right next to me but they are miles away. That's why it is so bad...


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PostPosted: 24 May 2009, 23:02 
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....So you can't look around to anticipate a move with distortion on the outer edges?

Of course I can but it looks horrible.
Objects in game may be closer than they appear.

Actually, at the moment it's exactly the opposite. The objects look almost right next to me but they are miles away. That's why it is so bad...

Look at the rFactor thread. The cars look much farther away then where they are.

If you hate playing the game in such a wide resolution, don't. It's a simple fix. Another potential fix could be looking on the WoW forums to greatly decrease the field of view. That should eliminate the distortion.

Your point about companies working so hard to make the game should push them to make the game support such a wacky implementation for games is irrelevant. WoW has millions of customers. The number of people it would attract by creating a new TH support system is a comparatively extremely small amount.


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PostPosted: 24 May 2009, 23:23 
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That may be so but its becoming more and more evident that you are hellbent on discrediting anything I have said or will say. (Potential fanboy maybe?) Sorry, im only saying this cause you seem to be the only one who is adamant to debate rfactor with me or constantly points out that i am a small minority. pfff

I have already acknowledged that I will rather ask on the WoW forum and bsoder has already told me to reduce my fov with a script.

So...I don't see the need to continue debating it. We can just agree to disagree. ;) Kapeesh? 8)

Thanks for your input anyhow.


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PostPosted: 25 May 2009, 00:00 
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Potential fanboy maybe?
Now that's just downright insulting. I don't even own one :wink:

My point is that you spent several hundred dollars and are unimpressed with the result due to what is mostly a gaff on your part. You failed to look the 'issue' before you bought it.

You're vastly overemphasizing the number of people in your predicament, and blasting the game developers over something that is certainly not their fault.

Your solution is that developers should step far out of their way to fix something that affects less than a few thousand of their audience, out of which you are apparently the only one we've (on this forum) seen concerned about it. It's a relatively work-intensive thing for a developer to update a game with, and they have no initiative to do so.

Even your solution, which gets rid of object distortion, distorts your perspective.

the ideal solution (which makes perfect sense) is to reduce the horizontal FOV and stand away from your monitors, so that there is no distortion at all (you'll see less, but there won't be any distortion).

Here's an example of Battlefield 2 like that:


It's not that I'm a fanboy, it's just that you don't seem to get it. In the real world, money drives everything.

Break open your piggy bank and pay Blizzard a couple grand. That may get them to respond to your questions ;)


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PostPosted: 25 May 2009, 00:48 
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You sure have a lot to say for someone who doesn't even own a th2g.
It's not that I'm a fanboy, it's just that you don't seem to get it. In the real world, money drives everything.

Gee, I would never have guessed. Thanks again for your insight.
Your solution is that developers should step far out of their way to fix something that affects less than a few thousand of their audience, out of which you are apparently the only one we've (on this forum) seen concerned about it. It's a relatively work-intensive thing for a developer to update a game with, and they have no initiative to do so.

This implies that you agree it is something that can be looked at by the developers but they won't cause money talks and there isnt a wide enough audience?? Interesting change of heart there.
what is mostly a gaff on your part. You failed to look the 'issue' before you bought it.

Again, why are you soo concerned when you yourself have admitted that it is something that the developers "COULD" look into if their coffers were fuller. ;)
Even your solution, which gets rid of object distortion, distorts your perspective.

It might distort the perspective but as I already mentioned, specifically for WoW, it would be better than the immersion.

Now please leave this thread so we can move on? I will follow different avenues...unless you REALLY REALLY need to have the last word you can post "word" in your next post. ;)


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PostPosted: 25 May 2009, 04:09 
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Lookout cranky, you have a rival here. Watch after him closely :wink:

Honestly, the developers could look into making the game run in only blue-tones, or they could look into delivering a pile of horse crap with every game purchased. Just because it's something they could consider doesn't mean something's "wrong." I never changed my mind once. It's a "solution" that could be implemented by the developers, but that doesn't mean it's any better than the current implementation, nor that the current implementation is wrong.

You're really preaching to the wrong people here. Contact Blizzard and get their opinion on the topic, if you make a good enough case they might actually respond with their perspective on the topic.


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