BETA PD-SE for 200series GPU and Vista

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 19 Jan 2009, 23:11

EDIT: Thought I better add this:

THIS IS A BETA DRIVER SENT TO ME SO OBVIOUSLY USE AT YOUR OWN RISK> NO COME BACK TO MATROX IF IT GOES PEAR SHAPED!

Matrox sent me a BETA GXM for fixing the out of range error with Vista (and Win7!). If you have an NVidia 200 series card, Vista and are unable to get 5040 going in any other way give this a try:

Note: There has been some success using this GXM with cards other than 200 series, i.e. 8800GTX. Give it a whirl!

http://www.2shared.com/file/4682806/74f78fee/NVIDIA_200series_and_TripleWide.html

or here:

http://www.box.net/shared/9b3cr7c6zp

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 20 Jan 2009, 02:31

Works for 'E2badg' so give it a try :)

Post by **skipclarke** » 20 Jan 2009, 09:13

I got it working, but my gaming performance is less than stellar. But, I'm blaming that on Vista. I've had nothing but problems with it (while XP is rock solid). Games don't run half the time (even at 1680x1050). My Vista HDD is still churning minutes after boot. I heard some funny noises, maybe it's a bad drive.

I was finally able to get the HL2 Lost Coast demo to run (at 5040x1050). XP: 183, Vista: ~137. I know Vista needs more resources, but XP only recognized 2GB of my RAM, while Vista sees all 6GB. That should offset much of the overhead.

I really don't understand the draw for Vista. Even if Matrox and NVIDIA get 100% of the issues sorted out, I still think Vista sucks. I'll just stick with XP for the time being, but I'll give the Windows 7 beta a spin. Was going to get a new HDD for that. Will replace the Vista drive as well, to see if that's a problem.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 20 Jan 2009, 10:23

Win7 is vista+ really, pretty much every driver I installed worked on 7..i.e. there is very little difference if vista drivers work.

However it seems snappier in everything (especially installing stuff) so that is real good for a BETA. I will certainly try it once it has been out for a while and others have discovered the initial bugs!

BTW you get the same out of range error in Win7 and the BETA PD-SE works to fix it :)

tsrf900r · Post by **tsrf900r** » 20 Jan 2009, 18:54

This completely fixed my issues with 4320x900 in Win7. Great fix for me....

Post by **skipclarke** » 20 Jan 2009, 19:36

I re-ghosted my Vista image onto a new drive. Clicking stopped. Drive dying. Realized I hadn't installed the mobo drivers. Did that. Still only 148.5fps in HL2LC. That's still a big hit. It doesn't run in 64-bit. I think Ep2 does. I did get Win7 loaded on the dying drive, and the beta PD worked there. Gonna load it on the good drive, and see how HL2LC benches.

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 20 Jan 2009, 21:06

Can't believe they're still sending you files, Mach :shock: which means you're still having issues... I thought I was the last one with no 5040 in Vista, mostly because I never took the time to really look into it...

Thx for the file anyway ;)

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 20 Jan 2009, 21:16

I have had HEAPs of probs, you can see from my sig that I am back to XP. I keep trying Vista but no joy. I got it working with the old PD-SE but it would always loose the 5040 res after restart- too annoying, I have never managed to get the custom res working ever (they failed though it is working error) and because the NV drivers change so often, like another yesterday for Mirror's Edge (which I have), the effort you have to go through everytime is not worth it. XP just works (and even works for me at 1920x1200 in games now).

The out-of-range error is endemic, everyone has it..unless they are lucky enough to get the custom res to work and stay working after a restart.

EDIT: oh and you are welcome, I hope it works for you..post if it does please :)

HowlingBlue · Post by **HowlingBlue** » 20 Jan 2009, 22:51

I have had HEAPs of probs, you can see from my sig that I am back to XP. I keep trying Vista but no joy. I got it working with the old PD-SE but it would always loose the 5040 res after restart- too annoying, I have never managed to get the custom res working ever (they failed though it is working error) and because the NV drivers change so often, like another yesterday for Mirror's Edge (which I have), the effort you have to go through everytime is not worth it.

I had success on Vista 64 by rolling back to 178.13, setting up my resolutions, and then putting in the drivers I want. All the drivers after 178 caused that "custom resolution test failed" on success, but this one did not. Going forward, it seems to keep the resolutions on every update so far.

Of course, I'm not using a GTX 200 series, but I will be getting a GTX 295 soon, so I will post should I have problems. If you ever feel like trying again, that might help...

Post by **skipclarke** » 20 Jan 2009, 22:59

I got Win7 loaded. Seems to install and load even faster than Vista (and loading fast is it's best feature). I got it to run 5040x1050, but it resets on reboot. Changing res in Display Preferences or NVIDIA Control Panel doesn't work. It doesn't change anything. I have to change in the GXM.

HL2 Lost Coast benchmark locked on me in both 32-bit and 64-bit modes. Gonna try WIC in Vista now. See if it has the same performance hit as HL2LC.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 21 Jan 2009, 00:25

I had success on Vista 64 by rolling back to 178.13, setting up my resolutions, and then putting in the drivers I want. All the drivers after 178 caused that "custom resolution test failed" on success, but this one did not. Going forward, it seems to keep the resolutions on every update so far.

Of course, I'm not using a GTX 200 series, but I will be getting a GTX 295 soon, so I will post should I have problems. If you ever feel like trying again, that might help...

Yeah I can get it working on older drivers but you get a huge performance hit, especially in SLI, because the drivers aren't upto date. Also those older drivers won't include your new GPU, mores the pity. So I will stick with XP because I have latest drivers and 5040 without any probs :)

Post by **BHawthorne** » 21 Jan 2009, 01:48

Ug, talk about the most confusing file hosting download site ever. That download link is a pain to find there.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 21 Jan 2009, 01:50

Ug, talk about the most confusing file hosting download site ever. That download link is a pain to find there.

Sorry, it was my first ever hosted file ...I just googled

Post by **skipclarke** » 21 Jan 2009, 07:27

Got HL2 Ep2 loaded, and it benched at the same level as XP. Ran my Crysis Warhead demos and got about the same in Medium, and it dropped a few frames on High. It's not as bas as I thought, but I still don't see Vista adding anything. I'm sure DX10 is great in the right place and game, but I don't see it being a must have. I'd rather have 5040x1050. And, Vista isn't doing anything with the extra RAM it can see. Maybe Win7 will be better.

Post by **skipclarke** » 21 Jan 2009, 18:58

Ran Far Cry 2. At the "Optimal" settings of my first testing, I went from 33fps to 46.8fps. At Ultra, I got 44.8fps. Looks like the Dunia engine is taking advantage of the 64-bit and 6GB of RAM.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 21 Jan 2009, 19:57

That is a big difference! I have no probs playing 5040 at full settings with SLI GTX280's in XP. But in Vista 64bit it would mean I could add a bit more AA AF....pity I finished it LOL

L2Phantom · Post by **L2Phantom** » 22 Jan 2009, 03:03

I'm still using my Vista 64-Bit with the old 178 drivers. Using SLI * 280's, although I am a bit scared of messing with my setup after it took me ages to get 5040x1050 working in the first place :cry:

HowlingBlue · Post by **HowlingBlue** » 22 Jan 2009, 06:49

[quote]
I had success on Vista 64 by rolling back to 178.13, setting up my resolutions, and then putting in the drivers I want. All the drivers after 178 caused that "custom resolution test failed" on success, but this one did not. Going forward, it seems to keep the resolutions on every update so far.

Of course, I'm not using a GTX 200 series, but I will be getting a GTX 295 soon, so I will post should I have problems. If you ever feel like trying again, that might help...

Yeah I can get it working on older drivers but you get a huge performance hit, especially in SLI, because the drivers aren't upto date. Also those older drivers won't include your new GPU, mores the pity. So I will stick with XP because I have latest drivers and 5040 without any probs :)

Heh, I am running the latest drivers, though, lol, that's what I was saying. :)

I use the old drivers to get my resolutions and then upgraded up to the latest. Still haven't lost the resolutions, and I have all the improvements... 8)

Post by **skipclarke** » 22 Jan 2009, 22:30

I will say that Vista (being 64-bit and recognizing 6GB of RAM) certainly helped Virtual Dub and QuickTime Pro convert video faster. That's about enough reason to switch for me.

Smokytyrz · Post by **Smokytyrz** » 05 Feb 2009, 21:08

Just a friendly request: Does anyone have a copy of that beta file linked in the first post that is hosted somewhere other than a spyware delivery service? That download link is on a site that is very, very polluted. My system won't even let me download the file.

Any mirrors? Thx

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