Monitors that will and won't run at 5040x1050 @ 57hz

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Re: Monitors that will and won't run at 5040x1050 @ 57hz

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KNOWN WORKING:
Viewsonic VX2240w

Got these running 5040x1050 @ 57 Hz, therye a good cheap monitor. Supposedly 2ms response time.

Yes, I posted about these quite some time ago. I have bought about 30 of these for various systems and not a single DOA either. Highly rate them.
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Re: Monitors that will and won't run at 5040x1050 @ 57hz

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I can't get my LG 2361V's over 3840 x 1024 with the THTG Digital version attached

There is a option for 4080 x 768 but that looks real bad when you're used to 1900 x 1050

Any ideas guys?

Thanks for the help

not sure if this helps but the nVidia control panel say I can create custom resolutions and refresh rates...is this safe and or do-able?

Thanks for the help Guys
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BenQ FP202WA isn't working with 5040x1050. I have 3 of them and they only work at 1680x1050@60Hz.

Not tested singulary. (how can i try to use lower frequences then 60Hz on a single connected monitor? My Windows doesn't offer it)
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Re: Monitors that will and won't run at 5040x1050 @ 57hz

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BenQ FP202WA isn't working with 5040x1050. I have 3 of them and they only work at 1680x1050@60Hz.

Not tested singulary. (how can i try to use lower frequences then 60Hz on a single connected monitor? My Windows doesn't offer it)

Have you tried downloading PowerDesk 2.06 and running them at 5040x1050x60Hz?
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Re: Monitors that will and won't run at 5040x1050 @ 57hz

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Samsung 2433BWs work with Nvidia 195.62 with a little modifcation to the DeviceInfo.ini file in the Matrix Graphics folder for PowerDesk.

See this thread for step-by-step instructions:
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=14170&p=178665#p178665
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Mythiasis, this does not really answer the question: "does your monitor model support 1680x1050@57 Hz ?" ;)
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Mythiasis, this does not really answer the question: "does your monitor model support 1680x1050@57 Hz ?" ;)


Well, that's because they are already listed as working, but with older Nvidia drivers. I've gotten them to work with the current 195.62.
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Thid thread is hopefully in the process of becoming obsolete, but let's keep the focus on the specific issue of 1680@57 Hz (as opposed to "successful 5040"). ;) ;)
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Hey all, new to the forum but this may help someone somewhere.

Acer2416W Monitors that formally would not run 57hz now do so. I am running at 5040x1050 (3x 1680x1050). Best I could do before was 4320x900. I can run them at 57.1hz and 58.8hz reported (by onscreen menu) with no problems.

What has changed at my end. Upgraded to win7 64bit. Latest drivers and firmware for the TH2Gd were also downloaded for the upgrade. Running a nvidia gtx260 card as well if that is relevant.

Also the ASUS 26" VK266H LCD monitor works just fine. (one of my Acers died so I have the ASUS in the middle)
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Anyone test the LG L206WTY? Specs say 1680 x 1050 max rez but I cannot get it to run in 5040x1050 @ 57hz. I have most current drivers for video 8800 GTX Ultras, Matrox driver/firmwear, Win 7 64 bit drivers but to no avail. I think it might be because I am running Win 7 64.
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Hi guys/gals,
Unfortunately I found out about this issue just moments ago and just ordered 3 Asus MS238H monitors about 24 hrs ago. I am not sure what the minimum refresh will be at 1680x1050, but the specs on the spec page are:

Horizontal Refresh Rate 30 ~ 85 KHz
Vertical Refresh Rate 55 ~ 75 Hz

Looking at these number, is there any way of telling the answer to if these monitors will run @ 57 hz @ 1680x1050?
Main reason is, I could still cancel the order and turn UPS around and order something more suitable, but will not be able to return them once I recieve them (At least not for this reason).

Also, does the fact that they're LED Backlit (Not OLED of course) have any bearing on the above question?
Thanks for your time,
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Added Acer 2416W as a problem model since it seems to require 57.1Hz.
Added Asus VK266H as known working.

Xantheous: No idea, but it shouldn't be a problem.
1) Refresh rates are not really an issue in Win7 anymore, thanks to this.
2) We have 5 LG monitors in the list, all are "known working" :)

Turbine777: I can't think of any reason why the LED backlighting would be a no-go @57 Hz.
The official specs are of no help, but again this issue is not as "dead-ended" as it used to be, as it seems newer drivers allow refresh rates higher than 57 Hz, which all models should be able to output without problem.
It's up to you but I'd risk it with reasonable confidence... (That's not the model I'd use for multi-monitor because of the humongous frame, but hey.)
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Turbine777: I can't think of any reason why the LED backlighting would be a no-go @57 Hz.
The official specs are of no help, but again this issue is not as "dead-ended" as it used to be, as it seems newer drivers allow refresh rates higher than 57 Hz, which all models should be able to output without problem.
It's up to you but I'd risk it with reasonable confidence... (That's not the model I'd use for multi-monitor because of the humongous frame, but hey.)


Thanks, I got my monitors tonight and it's a no go. I've been at it all night and can't get beyond 4080x768. I wish I new about this before hand, I just hope I can return them. What a pain,,, wasn't there a time when things just worked?
Thanks again,
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Turbine777: I can't think of any reason why the LED backlighting would be a no-go @57 Hz.
The official specs are of no help, but again this issue is not as "dead-ended" as it used to be, as it seems newer drivers allow refresh rates higher than 57 Hz, which all models should be able to output without problem.
It's up to you but I'd risk it with reasonable confidence... (That's not the model I'd use for multi-monitor because of the humongous frame, but hey.)


Thanks, I got my monitors tonight and it's a no go. I've been at it all night and can't get beyond 4080x768. I wish I new about this before hand, I just hope I can return them. What a pain,,, wasn't there a time when things just worked?
Thanks again,
Dan
Did you update your TH2go with the latest firmware? and the latest powerdesk? You should be able to get it at much higher refresh rates using those new settings. Because that doesn't sound like its the monitors fault, but rather the TH2go.
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Did you update your TH2go with the latest firmware? and the latest powerdesk? You should be able to get it at much higher refresh rates using those new settings. Because that doesn't sound like its the monitors fault, but rather the TH2go.


I just bought the Th2go and it already has the latest firmware, 2.3.40. I also tried both the software on the cd, but first only tried 2.06 that I downloaded (before the cd software). I only did the cd software after reading the troubleshooting on their web site and the fact that the powerdesk wasn't in my task bar. Everytime I install just the download (2.06) I get nothing in the task bar. It does work however, but everytime I try to have it run the requested resolution it says "Windows has encountered a problem" during the "Change Mode" stage.
I then tried to remove it and set the resolution up in the nVidia control panel as a test, and it too failed. I also tried it for just 1680x1050 and it also failed.
Worst part is, I just chatted with Newegg and they won't take the monitors back.
Any other suggestions would be appreciated. So far it looks like I bought 3 $200 food trays.
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I started over and still have the same problems as described above, but have a new question.
When Matrox referres to the "Dual link" I thought/think they are referring to either the card itself (I have a GTX295) or the cable going from the Trip2go and the comp. I just noticed that powerdesk no longer see's that it is Dual Link as it did with my two older monitors. Would this be because of the cables going from it to my new monitors perhaps? My cables going to the monitors are DVI-to-HDMI and look like this on the DVI end:

I'm probably chasing the wrong chicken here, but so far it's the only thing that makes sense why my res has to be this poor.

EDIT: Sorry to spam this thread with my individual issue, but wanted to update. I have talked to Newegg again and they will take the monitors back (I need to pay for shipping). I already have a VK266H, so seeing the thread above that said it works, think I may get 2 more of them but without the web cam (VW266H model).

Although it was said to work by Shrubbo, I did try to create a resolution of 1680x1050 with various refresh rates with the nVidia control panel and it says not supported. This is the proper way to test this isn't it?
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Acer V223w and B223w should be on the "bad" list.

I reported a long time ago about my experience with Acer V223w (see "Known working" list, 3rd monitor down). It worked good enough for my needs but had issues. I've been using 3 of them happily since I first posted about them. Well, one of the monitors died and Acer sent me a replacement that was actually a better model, B223w Bbmzdr. This model will not work 3 wide with the TH2G. With the Matrox putting out 3 x 1680 x 1050 at 57hz this monitor only displays a horizontal res of 1280. I updated the Matrox to 2.3.40 and PowerDesk to 2.06 but no go.

But here's the kicker. I bought another V223w bd to match the old ones and IT DOESN'T WORK either. It does the same thing as the B223w! The vertical resolution looks just like my original V223w's but it only displays 1280 horizontal when the TH2G is set up 1680 triple wide at 57hz. If I drop back to 2 wide monitors (at 60hz) all my monitors display flawless 1680x1050.

So something has changed with the V223w bd model. Just because the model number is the same as the old ones there is no guarantee the insides are the same. It, along with the B223w, should be moved to the "bad" list.

Gripes! So now I have to buy a new set of monitors and try to sell these others (4 of them!) to recoup some $. I grow weary...
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No it's not custom, I just installed a fresh TH2G into a fresh PC running Windows XP and using the latest Matrox PowerDesk (2.06) and the latest Nvidia drivers as of yesterday and 5040x1050x60Hz(59) was in the list of standard resolutions in the PowerDesk Setup Wizard.

It was not present in PowerDesk 2.05.


I have an 8800GT like you using 195 drivers and PD 2.06. TH2G firmware is 2.3.40. In the Mode ManagementTripleHead modes list I only see 1680x1050 at 55hz. It is preselected with a check mark that I cannot turn off. And windows Display Properties only shows 57hz for 5040x1050 resolutions. I reran the Wizard and it does not offer a 5040 59hz choice.
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Acer V223w and B223w should be on the "bad" list.
They are now.

Although it was said to work by Shrubbo, I did try to create a resolution of 1680x1050 with various refresh rates with the nVidia control panel and it says not supported. This is the proper way to test this isn't it?
Well, it sure used to be. With recent drivers however, a lot of formerly working custom resolutions are now "unsupported" somehow. :?
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Well, it sure used to be. With recent drivers however, a lot of formerly working custom resolutions are now "unsupported" somehow. :?

I talked with Shrubbo, and they work for him without issue. He also mentioned he didn't need to do anything with nVidia control panel. I had a VK266h, and just bought 2 VW226H's (Same as the VK without the built in cam). I am in the middle of a move currently, and I have one of the new monitors at my new place and only two hooked up the moment (Need a bigger desk). I am running both at 1920x1200 with no problems and looks like it should work out fine. I will update in the next couple of weeks.
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