MSI P55 "Big Bang" Lucid Hydra 200 mobo + EyeFinit

Post by **BHawthorne** » 29 Sep 2009, 05:33

Here is a thought to ponder, with MSI having a Lucid Hydra 200 P55 series mobo released soon and CrossFire not yet working wonder the compatibility of the Hydra 200 and EyeFinity? I'm pretty sure that's outside the realm of anyone's ability at answer that question at the moment, but it's something to ponder.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 29 Sep 2009, 05:39

Yeah it is certainly a thought. Don't wanna go NVidia with Hydra cos (rumour from [H]) is that they will kill the performance with the drivers!

DaFox · Post by **DaFox** » 29 Sep 2009, 08:32

Yeah it is certainly a thought. Don't wanna go NVidia with Hydra cos (rumour from [H]) is that they will kill the performance with the drivers!

wouldn't be surprised -_-

thenjwaslike · Post by **thenjwaslike** » 29 Sep 2009, 08:50

lol 5870x2 + GT300

"interracial" graphics setup, now that would be insane.. 90% scaling with multi-vendor, makes me laugh how advanced technology is... also, intel is lucidlogix biggest shareholder so expect an X58 version for i7, rumored "smackdown 2"

OzHuski · Post by **OzHuski** » 29 Sep 2009, 10:52

Based on how Lucid says the hydra works (intercepting the DirectX data) I wouldnt see why it wouldnt work. Of course thats only theory based on how they are describing it work.

Im keen to see how this piece of hardware turns out.. half tempted to wait, but I want my i7 upgrade now. Decisions decisions...

Here is a link to a pile of info from PC perspective.
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=785

Or another preview from Anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3646

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 29 Sep 2009, 12:27

Yeah it is certainly a thought. Don't wanna go NVidia with Hydra cos (rumour from [H]) is that they will kill the performance with the drivers!

Quite. They disabled PhysX when any ATi card is detected in system (whether it's powering the display or not) so they're doing some underhanded driver tricks recently. Also, some reports on other fora imply that they're killing support for the original PhysX cards from Ageia... how long will it be before they decide "forced obsolescence" of older nVidia cards that can do PhysX is the way to go to make people upgrade?

whismerhill · Post by **whismerhill** » 29 Sep 2009, 14:34

[quote]Yeah it is certainly a thought. Don't wanna go NVidia with Hydra cos (rumour from [H]) is that they will kill the performance with the drivers!

Quite. They disabled PhysX when any ATi card is detected in system (whether it's powering the display or not) so they're doing some underhanded driver tricks recently. Also, some reports on other fora imply that they're killing support for the original PhysX cards from Ageia... how long will it be before they decide "forced obsolescence" of older nVidia cards that can do PhysX is the way to go to make people upgrade?
it's just too bad hardware websites don't seem as concerned by the problem as was the case a few years back when there was tricks to improve performance & scores at all cost (with 3DMark).

I think not much people really care about physX since it will soon be dead anyway (DX11)

Post by **BHawthorne** » 29 Sep 2009, 16:11

I think the smartest thing nVidia could do would be make PhysX OpenCL based. Do away with the CUDA requirement and push everything towards OpenCL. If PhysX is to gain universal acceptance it first must be universally available. This vendor lockout strategy by nVidia is getting tiring. I especially hate it because of what they do with SLI and SLI Matrix modes.

whismerhill · Post by **whismerhill** » 29 Sep 2009, 21:08

opencl isn't the holy grail of GPU computing though ....

http://www.behardware.com/articles/744-1/opencl-democracy-for-gpu-computing.html

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 29 Sep 2009, 21:19

No, but it's an open standard. No closed proprietary nonsense like we're having to put up with on CUDA. Once OpenCL is finalised and actually out properly, hopefully support gains momentum. Because it's a lot easier to work with an open standard than a closed one.

01Boxer · Post by **01Boxer** » 11 Oct 2009, 06:25

From the PC Perspective review of Eyefinity:

Oh, there is still that matter of Lucid and its HYDRA technology; it is definitely on my radar and I have a feeling that we'll be able to get better Eyefinity results more quickly through this option than waiting on AMD. Deciding which solution will be BETTER though will take a lot of testing that I am willing to sacrifice and do for our readers!

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