A little disappointed with my dell 24" lcd

mookytc · Post by **mookytc** » 08 Jan 2006, 01:01

Hi all...broke down and bought the dell 2405 fpw 24". A beautiful display imho. However the games I play (nascar 2003, some combat flight sims, etc). Struggle a wee bit on this monitor. Meaning they look gorgeous but they are not nearly as smooth as on my viewsonic 21 " crt. I am ready to return the dell since my favorite games aren't just right on this display. I notice the irregularities while playing. It is distracting. I know all you guys are using lcd's...any advice or suggestions for getting games to play as smooth as possible?

Specs below...

DFI LP UT nF4 SLI-D (623 bios)
AMD 4000+ San Deigo
Antec neo 550w psu
XFX 7800GTX 81.98 drivers
Crucial Ballistix 4 x 512 2-3-2-8
2 120gb Maxtor Raid 0
Plextor CD-RW
Plextor DVD-RW
Audigy 2
Klipsch 4.1 Speakers

Post by **maherie** » 08 Jan 2006, 13:17

I wouldn;t be so quick to dismiss the monitor. But you have to realise you are adding loads more realestate to power. Wait for one of the lads to give you the full technical run down first...

mookytc · Post by **mookytc** » 08 Jan 2006, 13:54

Yes..no doubt more real estate. I did upgrade to an 7800 gtx. Thought that would do the trick. CPU could be a bit mroe but I think it is just the fast motion and all that is going on. Let's say a race..42 cars, full detail, etc. there is a lot taking place.

thx..

DC

Jimmie 48 · Post by **Jimmie 48** » 08 Jan 2006, 15:51

I run Nascar 2003 with a Samsung LN-R238W and my system specs are P4 3.4Ghz/w800FSB,2048DDR 400,BFG 6800 GT OC,Audigy ZS and run at almost full graphics detail.I would be glad to help you with the settings.

Post by **The_cranky_hermit** » 08 Jan 2006, 16:29

I would try running your high-end games at lower resolutions than the default 1920x1200. If the desired resolution is not immediately available to you, you can easily add custom resolutions to nVidia cards. Just right click the desktop, NVIDIA Display, select your monitor, select "Screen Resolutions & Refresh Rates," click Add, and enter in a custom resolution. Did games run smoothly on the 21" monitor at 1600x1200? If so, try 1600x1000. The 2405FPW should scale pretty well.

Post by **ctrlsteef** » 08 Jan 2006, 16:40

CPU could be a bit more

I don't think that is the problem, the newest games don't often need a mother cpu. They run mostly on the gpu. If it was due to the cpu it should also run less good on the smaller monitor.

Post by **Tamlin** » 08 Jan 2006, 16:45

Hi all...broke down and bought the dell 2405 fpw 24". A beautiful display imho. However the games I play (nascar 2003, some combat flight sims, etc). Struggle a wee bit on this monitor. Meaning they look gorgeous but they are not nearly as smooth as on my viewsonic 21 " crt. I am ready to return the dell since my favorite games aren't just right on this display. I notice the irregularities while playing. It is distracting. I know all you guys are using lcd's...any advice or suggestions for getting games to play as smooth as possible?

Specs below...

DFI LP UT nF4 SLI-D (623 bios)
AMD 4000+ San Deigo
Antec neo 550w psu
XFX 7800GTX 81.98 drivers
Crucial Ballistix 4 x 512 2-3-2-8
2 120gb Maxtor Raid 0
Plextor CD-RW
Plextor DVD-RW
Audigy 2
Klipsch 4.1 Speakers

Sweet machine you have! :D
Try running the 2405 with a dual link dvi cable instead. It has worked miracles for some of our users if you look in the tech support section. :D

mookytc · Post by **mookytc** » 08 Jan 2006, 18:32

I run Nascar 2003 with a Samsung LN-R238W and my system specs are P4 3.4Ghz/w800FSB,2048DDR 400,BFG 6800 GT OC,Audigy ZS and run at almost full graphics detail.I would be glad to help you with the settings.

It just seems a bit choppy to me. Can't really describe it properly. Does run better in d3d (on the dell) than opengl although with a nvidia card I prefer open gl. Much prettier.

DC

mookytc · Post by **mookytc** » 08 Jan 2006, 18:33

[quote]Hi all...broke down and bought the dell 2405 fpw 24". A beautiful display imho. However the games I play (nascar 2003, some combat flight sims, etc). Struggle a wee bit on this monitor. Meaning they look gorgeous but they are not nearly as smooth as on my viewsonic 21 " crt. I am ready to return the dell since my favorite games aren't just right on this display. I notice the irregularities while playing. It is distracting. I know all you guys are using lcd's...any advice or suggestions for getting games to play as smooth as possible?

Specs below...

DFI LP UT nF4 SLI-D (623 bios)
AMD 4000+ San Deigo
Antec neo 550w psu
XFX 7800GTX 81.98 drivers
Crucial Ballistix 4 x 512 2-3-2-8
2 120gb Maxtor Raid 0
Plextor CD-RW
Plextor DVD-RW
Audigy 2
Klipsch 4.1 Speakers

Sweet machine you have! :D
Try running the 2405 with a dual link dvi cable instead. It has worked miracles for some of our users if you look in the tech support section. :D

thx! I do you use the dvi cable. Much better imho.

DC

Post by **Tamlin** » 08 Jan 2006, 18:41

[quote][quote]Hi all...broke down and bought the dell 2405 fpw 24". A beautiful display imho. However the games I play (nascar 2003, some combat flight sims, etc). Struggle a wee bit on this monitor. Meaning they look gorgeous but they are not nearly as smooth as on my viewsonic 21 " crt. I am ready to return the dell since my favorite games aren't just right on this display. I notice the irregularities while playing. It is distracting. I know all you guys are using lcd's...any advice or suggestions for getting games to play as smooth as possible?

Specs below...

DFI LP UT nF4 SLI-D (623 bios)
AMD 4000+ San Deigo
Antec neo 550w psu
XFX 7800GTX 81.98 drivers
Crucial Ballistix 4 x 512 2-3-2-8
2 120gb Maxtor Raid 0
Plextor CD-RW
Plextor DVD-RW
Audigy 2
Klipsch 4.1 Speakers

Sweet machine you have! :D
Try running the 2405 with a dual link dvi cable instead. It has worked miracles for some of our users if you look in the tech support section. :D

thx! I do you use the dvi cable. Much better imho.

DC

It is :) Do you use dual or single link DVI? (the dell comes with a single link, but the dual link has higher bandwidth and people report great improvments on the 2405fpw with it!:)

Post by **skipclarke** » 08 Jan 2006, 22:13

I think I know what you mean moonkytc. A year or so ago, I was troubleshooting Far Cry and Dungeon Siege on my Cinema Display. In order to get a better handle on the problem I switched my display to a generic brand 15" CRT monitor, and was blown away by the richness of the colors and the overall smoothness of the display.

If you've been using CRT's exclusively for many years now, it may take some time for your eyes to adjust to a large LCD, particularly one of the widescreen variety. I would give it some time, try some of the tips mentioned by other users, and if you are still not satisfied, then return the monitor.

You may even want to keep looking around at other LCD options to see if you can find one that you like. Being an extremely picky gamer myself, I definitely know what you are talking about when that part of your setup doesn't quite feel right. Give the Dell monitor a fair shot, and pat yourself on the back for your willingness to give it a try. :) If it doesn't work out, there are lots of other options out there.

Jimmie 48 · Post by **Jimmie 48** » 09 Jan 2006, 04:06

I run Nascar 2003 at 1360x768 with d3d.try forcing AA and AF threw the nvidia driver console.My settings are 4x AA and 8x AF.I am running the Forceware Beta drivers from nvidia sight version 81.87.They run great with all my games.Also if you go into your player profile.In there there is a player ini.You can scroll down and find Car MegaShader_0.change the 0 to 1.Its good for 4 to 5 FPS.

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jeremy78951 · Post by **jeremy78951** » 10 Oct 2006, 21:54

I know this is an old topic but I orderd a 24 inch dell and I am trying to prepare.I also play Nascar 2003.When you guys say dual DVI cable is this 2 of them or one into your computer and they split and 2 conectors into your moniter

Cornflake · Post by **Cornflake** » 10 Oct 2006, 22:31

It just seems a bit choppy to me. Can't really describe it properly. Does run better in d3d (on the dell) than opengl although with a nvidia card I prefer open gl. Much prettier.

DC

Let me start off by saying how extremley vague you are being with "seems a bit choppy". The only think I can think of that is usally described as "choppy" is having a low framerate. As others have said, running your game at a lower resolution will make it feel less choppy (IF you are getting a low framerate). Go download a program like Fraps to install a little frame per second counter in the corner of your screen. I'd say if your FPS reaches 35 or below that would seem a bit choppy... but the 7800GTX shouldn't have alot of problems with low framerates.

Also, this choppyness could be input lag, or tearing. When your turn fast in games, do you see "tears" in the screen, like they are sliced? Does your mouse seem laggier that when you used your older monitor?

I'm kind of throwing all the possible things out there, i'm sorry if you already know what i'm talking about and that's not the problem. Do remember, though, that a 24" wide LCD is so much larger you will really need to let your eyes adjust.

P.S. What resolution did you typically run your games in with your CRT?

Post by **skipclarke** » 11 Oct 2006, 12:47

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