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PostPosted: 11 Aug 2013, 19:57 
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I've got a 1 GB 6870 running games at 5760x1080, and I want to upgrade. One option is to get a 2 GB 6950 for $120. I figured that even though the card isn't much faster, the extra ram would give a noticeable improvement. I've looked at some benchmarks and this doesn't seem to be the case. Is this upgrade worth it? I figure I might get $100 for my 6870. The other option is to xfire with another 6870 which would be much faster, but more expensive and a dead-end. Any advice or links to a 6870 vs 2GB 6950 eyefinity benchmarks?


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PostPosted: 13 Aug 2013, 11:58 
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What CPU do you have? How much RAM? What OS?
If you xfire with another 6850 Would your PSU support it? (And pci-e lane speed... 8x or 4x?)
If limited to a single card, it might pay to save some coin or buy a 7850/7870 second hand....
IMO you should wait till end of year when the 8 series cards are released and try to pick up a 7 series as they should be cheaper by then.... Just as long as the CPU wont bottleneck and RAM is fast enough (1600mhz?)


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6870:
http://www.wsgf.org/article/amd-radeon-6870-6850-review

6950:
http://www.wsgf.org/article/amd-radeon-6970-6950-review

If you hit a VRAM limit you will know that! 1-4FPS maximum.

IMHO you'd be better off with a hd 7850. Or a gtx660
Though they do cost a lot more.

Crossfire 6870 is a bad idea. Never go Crossfire except the best single gpu doesn't have enough power. To much trouble.

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General consensus does seem to be that Crossfire/SLI are to be avoided unless you've already reached a performance threshold with a single card. In other words, a single more powerful card is better than two less powerful cards.

That being said, I've gone the Crossfire route with the 4870, 5870, and 7950 series and I don't regret it. But, there are four main issues that you'll be likely to run in to under Crossfire/SLI that you won't have on a single card:

  • Power. Running multiple cards means you'll need a beefy power supply.
  • Heat. This is a big one. Unless you've got an extended ATX motherboard, chances are that your cards will be in adjacent PCI-E slots and there will be very little room for airflow between them. That means the temperature on the cards will be much higher and your ambient case temperature will rise as a result. You need good cable management and good case airflow to make sure you don't overheat.
  • Microstutter. Especially with AMD cards in Crossfire, you're going to get microstutter. That's basically when your fps are high, but frames are getting rendered at inconsistent speeds. Maybe you've got 50 fps but one frame renders in 20 milliseconds and the next one takes 100 milliseconds. It wont decrease your fps, but it will result in a minute stutter that can be quite annoying in some games.
  • Crossfire Application Profiles. In order to take advantage of Crossfire performance, AMD has to write profiles for each new game that gets released. They're generally pretty quick to do so, but if you tend to purchase games on release, sometimes you'll have to wait for a profile to be released to get the best performance.

Power and heat problems can be solved. Waiting on application profiles for new games isn't generally a problem. But, microstutter is not something you can fix or get around currently. Thankfully, AMD is aware of and working on the microstutter issue. The 13.8 beta drivers that they released on August 1st have a new feature called Frame Pacing that helps cut down significantly on microstutter, but it currently only works at resolutions up to 2560x1600. The next beta is supposed to include Frame Pacing for Eyefinity resolutions, but until we see it in the wild we don't really know how well it will work.


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Bifurk8 wrote:
General consensus does seem to be that Crossfire/SLI are to be avoided unless you've already reached a performance threshold with a single card. In other words, a single more powerful card is better than two less powerful cards.

That being said, I've gone the Crossfire route with the 4870, 5870, and 7950 series and I don't regret it. But, there are four main issues that you'll be likely to run in to under Crossfire/SLI that you won't have on a single card:

  • Power. Running multiple cards means you'll need a beefy power supply.
  • Heat. This is a big one. Unless you've got an extended ATX motherboard, chances are that your cards will be in adjacent PCI-E slots and there will be very little room for airflow between them. That means the temperature on the cards will be much higher and your ambient case temperature will rise as a result. You need good cable management and good case airflow to make sure you don't overheat.
  • Microstutter. Especially with AMD cards in Crossfire, you're going to get microstutter. That's basically when your fps are high, but frames are getting rendered at inconsistent speeds. Maybe you've got 50 fps but one frame renders in 20 milliseconds and the next one takes 100 milliseconds. It wont decrease your fps, but it will result in a minute stutter that can be quite annoying in some games.
  • Crossfire Application Profiles. In order to take advantage of Crossfire performance, AMD has to write profiles for each new game that gets released. They're generally pretty quick to do so, but if you tend to purchase games on release, sometimes you'll have to wait for a profile to be released to get the best performance.

Power and heat problems can be solved. Waiting on application profiles for new games isn't generally a problem. But, microstutter is not something you can fix or get around currently. Thankfully, AMD is aware of and working on the microstutter issue. The 13.8 beta drivers that they released on August 1st have a new feature called Frame Pacing that helps cut down significantly on microstutter, but it currently only works at resolutions up to 2560x1600. The next beta is supposed to include Frame Pacing for Eyefinity resolutions, but until we see it in the wild we don't really know how well it will work.


just a quick note on your Motherboard and Crossfire heat comments, when I bought my new motherboard in Jan I specifically went for one with and extra slot between PCI-E Slots for example this Asus MoBo http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-556-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261. it really does help with the airflow

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