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First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 16:36
by skipclarke
Engadget posted the first sighting of the Radeon 6990. It has 4x Mini-DP and 1xDL-DVI. This would seem to support 5x1 on the Dual-GPU Radoen 6990. It also requires 8-pin + 6-pin auxillary power. This is the same power requirements as the Dual-GPU 5970 and the recent NVIDIA GTX580.
While I'm glad to see the 5x1 support, I am disappointed at the cable configuration. I already spent money on Mini-DP > DP cables for Radeon 5870 E6, so that I could run everything off of DP connections. I already have my Mac Pro running on the DVI ports on the monitors. Considering there is no option to convert DVI > DP, I'll have to swap cables around and be inconsistent in my connections between my PC and Mac.
I get that 5xMini-DP + 1xDVI wouldn't all fit on one half of the card. And, I get how having a DVI connection makes it easy for single monitor users - but adapters dirt cheap now. Nothing deal-breaking, but it would have been nice for AMD to be consistent in their cabling from one generation to the next.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/26/amd-radeon-hd-6990-shows-up-in-its-metallic-flesh-looking-large/
http://www.4gamer.net/games/122/G012292/20110126021/
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 17:17
by duniek
4x DP 1.2 :D
I am wondering how many monitors can be supported with daisychain screens or with mst hubs
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 19:48
by matrices
Would be more excited if Tri-Fire actually worked in anything on these cards. (See here: http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1036757308&postcount=291)
Don't understand the point of these dual GPUs cards when everyone already has multiple PCI-E slots on their board unless they intend on making at least 3-way CF worth the trouble.
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 21:13
by suiken_2mieu
This is a possible upgrade for myself.
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 22:27
by bahnzii
I just saw the same sighting on another tech site. I've been waiting for a good reason to upgrade from my 5870 E6's, looks like 2 of these bad boys could be fun :mrgreen:
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 22:59
by duniek
Would be more excited if Tri-Fire actually worked in anything on these cards. (See here: http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1036757308&postcount=291)
Don't understand the point of these dual GPUs cards when everyone already has multiple PCI-E slots on their board unless they intend on making at least 3-way CF worth the trouble.
I will buy p67 marshall board with 8x pci-e
So I want save pci-e as hard as i can
hd6990 @ pci-e x16 + 6x5770 e5 cards @ pci-e x8 each card - for my 35 monitor video wall ultimate super hyper mega ofmg rig :hide :lol: :twisted: :D :rockout
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 27 Jan 2011, 00:23
by Hydralisk_X
I think it's heavier than my laptop... and my laptop is no pushover (Asus G50xt).
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 27 Jan 2011, 19:59
by suiken_2mieu
I'm wondering about cost. If it's close to what my E6 card cost when I bought it, I may snag it up. (About $500)
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 29 Jan 2011, 05:26
by dayglow
How much does a mini dp to hdmi cost?
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 29 Jan 2011, 12:52
by Magic Man
Little disappointed at the configuration but suppose it's understandable. They could have gone with 6 mini DP though and just thrown in an adaptor as usual for DL DVI.
I assume the four dp are 1.2 standard? Trouble is, unless they also bring out a dp hub then this is a step back from the E6 until those hubs are available.
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 29 Jan 2011, 20:21
by BHawthorne
With them being DP 1.2, 1 hub per port = 4 x 4 + 1... That's a lot of display options for a single card. I'm curious to see if 3x3 landscape ever makes it in. But heck, I'm still really happy over 5x1 Portrait finally making a showing. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself. :)
A DP 1.2 EyeFinity 6 would be crazy display count.
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 29 Jan 2011, 23:24
by Magic Man
Trouble is, this, while having excellent potential, is still a step back in its out of the box design since it'll 'only' do five as compared to the six of an Eyefinity 6 card. To get more than five requires hubs which are not going to be cheap.
So anyone who want six from the start is looking at additional costs whereas if they had come out with six DP outputs then they could have easily provided the DVI option via a simple/cheap adaptor. The 'adaptor' to get up to six outputs is not going to be cheap.
First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 30 Jan 2011, 15:14
by ttraveler
Did they give the dimensions of that card anywhere?
8)
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 30 Jan 2011, 16:05
by Gilly
I think it is about as long as a 4870 X2
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 30 Jan 2011, 18:27
by suiken_2mieu
Am I the only one who thinks we'll only be able to use one HUB per card? I can see this if it's not merely something like the TH2go (or that DP HUB that accell made).
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 30 Jan 2011, 19:46
by Magic Man
Am I the only one who thinks we'll only be able to use one HUB per card? I can see this if it's not merely something like the TH2go (or that DP HUB that accell made).
The diagrams show up to 3 1920x1200 per DP1.2 port on the two dp port models.
Think AMD need to get DP hubs out there otherwise their top card has lesser functionality than the 6 screens they've used to demonstrate Eyefinity in the past.
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 31 Jan 2011, 19:05
by BHawthorne
The diagrams show up to 3 1920x1200 per DP1.2 port on the two dp port models.
Actually, some diagrams show 1.2 Hubs pushing four 1920x1200/1080p displays. I think AMD merely used three in their example to match up with the current EyeFnity options they have implemented. Those that do not require EyeFinity will have a heck of a lot more display options soon.
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 31 Jan 2011, 22:07
by Magic Man
Yep, hope so. Where are those hubs though...
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 01 Feb 2011, 22:44
by duniek
With them being DP 1.2, 1 hub per port = 4 x 4 + 1... That's a lot of display options for a single card. I'm curious to see if 3x3 landscape ever makes it in. But heck, I'm still really happy over 5x1 Portrait finally making a showing. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself. :)
A DP 1.2 EyeFinity 6 would be crazy display count.
4x4 + 1 will be theoretically possible from physical card construction I think but AMD
WOULD NOT make driver which Can operate more than 6 screens, I remember when I bought first 5770, first drivers cant support even 3 monitors (of course I have 2x DVI + 1x DP @ VGA adapter) later 6-e card has only 10.6 drivers which Can support 6 screens (10.5 not work correctly on 10 diffrent setup, whatever, intel or amd)
Of course I hope this will be not true, and they will make some drivers and new cards with hub and future cards can operate more and more screens.
my dream for now is 5770 eyefinity-5 card in price of normal 5770 :D, (even can be 5750, effinency dosent matter) , just outputs 8)
Re: First Radeon 6990 Sighting
Posted: 02 Feb 2011, 01:12
by BHawthorne
I think but AMD WOULD NOT make driver which Can operate more than 6 screens
They seemed pretty accommodating to me when I inquired about 5x1P -- to the point of giving me access to driver builds that enabled 5x1P before it was released. It really goes to supply and demand though. As is, I think up to 6 displays is a good solid goal that they've fulfilled for the most part. Where you go from there is dictated by the amount of screens a single card can drive. That goes up significantly with DP1.2. 5x1P was made possible by request and gauging if people would even use it. I think WSGF members had a bit of a hand in making 5x1P possible because people were actually consistently requesting it over the last year. If a quantifiable amount of people will actually use it, I don't think AMD would discount some future expansion on configurations based on port counts. Video walls specifically come to mind when I think of over 6 displays. A 3x3L setup would make for a good video wall implementation. There is a whole market for 3x3 video walls that Eyefinity could harness. As long as AMD sees a target audience and money to be made, there is justification for things like 3x3 in the future.