HD "Remastered" Games Discussion

[Tanuki]

http://kotaku.com/5740341/would-you-care-for-a-metal-gear-solid-hd-collection

Please port this.

[The_cranky_hermit]

Even if a PS3 version was a sure thing, and not just a rumor, I think the odds of a PC port are pretty much nonexistent, given the track records of both Konami and Sony.

That said, I would definitely settle for a PS3 version. The "HD Trilogies" of Prince of Persia, Tomb Raider, and Splinter Cell can go in the trash bin of history. I played all of those in "HD" years before the PS3 even existed. MGS2's existence is more excusable - the PC version is problematic, especially in the controls department (thanks to a half-assed way of simulating pressure sensitive buttons instead of redesigning the controls just a little bit), and MGS3 is just begging to be played in high resolution with better draw distance and no slowdown.

I'd also hope that they'd include the original MGS1. If Twin Snakes is included as bonus material, that's fine and dandy, but it would be a travesty to include that *instead* of the original.

All in all, there are only four PS2 franchises that I see as really deserving of the "HD" treatment. ICO, Metal Gear Solid, Devil May Cry, and God of War. One already has it, one is in the works, one is rumored, and one is the anime version of Ghostbusters with an Oedipus complex.

[Unknownsock]

Although i can already guess it won't, but it would be great for a PC release.

I can't help but think with these HD re-releases that they just shouldn't do it.
Nostalgia is bad.

[The_cranky_hermit]

Why not? Nostalgia might be bad, but Metal Gear Solid isn't.
Granted, it's not as good as its reputation deserves - the lauded plot and storytelling are quite atrocious actually, but it has its merits as well.

[Tanuki]

I have never really played any of the Solid series except for the first one. The controls were wonky and the washed out palette made it hard to differentiate things on the old TV.

I got up to the part with the first-person guided missle and lost interest.

[Abram]

You can find the PC versions of the first two for very cheap, and they look a bit better. I love the comical popping sound when you snap the chicks' neck in the first one.

[Paradigm Shifter]

Of the MGS games, the only one that I've bothered to replay was Metal Gear Solid (PCCD!) MGS2 and 3 I found deeply repetitive, and MGS4 should have been a film, not a game.

I liked the story (what little of it I managed to grasp) but the games themselves? Eh, give me Thief 1 & 2 any day...

[Unknownsock]

Why not? Nostalgia might be bad, but Metal Gear Solid isn't.
Granted, it's not as good as its reputation deserves - the lauded plot and storytelling are quite atrocious actually, but it has its merits as well.

Might just be me, but I just think somethings should be just left alone.

Of the MGS games, the only one that I've bothered to replay was Metal Gear Solid (PCCD!) MGS2 and 3 I found deeply repetitive, and MGS4 should have been a film, not a game.

I liked the story (what little of it I managed to grasp) but the games themselves? Eh, give me Thief 1 & 2 any day...

I must have played 1 and 2 over 'n' over for years. And still regard 4 as one of the best of the current gen.

[The_cranky_hermit]

Might just be me, but I just think somethings should be just left alone.

Define "left alone." If you're against a re-release, it sounds like what you really mean is "some things should be forgotten, never to be seen again by anybody."

[Tanuki]

The HD Prince of Persia Trilogy is rumored to be going multiplat. No word on a PC version.

[The_cranky_hermit]

The existing PC versions were "HD" in the first place. The only thing they're lacking is native widescreen support, and I doubt many PC gamers would buy a re-release that only offered that.

A patch that enabled native widescreen support would be most welcome, though.

[bumbelboo]

Just a curious question if they do make a HD release which version of MGS solid do you prefer the PS1 version or the GC version?

:cheers

[The_cranky_hermit]

PS1/PC is the definitive version of MGS1, and it would be a travesty to not include it.
GCN remake would be a nice extra, and would benefit more from the high resolution, but the original shouldn't be pushed aside.

[Paradigm Shifter]

I didn't see much difference between the PC version of MGS and the GC version, beyond the GC version using the MGS2 engine.

[The_cranky_hermit]

The biggest difference, I think, is that the cut-scenes, voice acting, and music are completely different. The cut-scenes in particular are way more over the top than before, and considering this game is 80% cut-scene and voice acting, dot dot dot.

Even then, there's nothing about the GC version that's actually the same as the PS1/PC version, other than overall designs. The levels for instance are designed to be like the original, but they aren't actually the original - they didn't just take the old maps and re-render them with the MGS2 engine. Somebody did every aspect of the game all over again, from map designs to texturing. It's sort of like the remake of Psycho - every shot in the remake is very similar to a shot in the original, but they aren't the original shots, and it won't be the definitive version of the movie any time soon.

[Tanuki]

The existing PC versions were "HD" in the first place. The only thing they're lacking is native widescreen support, and I doubt many PC gamers would buy a re-release that only offered that.

As I don't own any on the originals I would. :mrgreen:

[DaFox]

The existing PC versions were "HD" in the first place. The only thing they're lacking is native widescreen support, and I doubt many PC gamers would buy a re-release that only offered that.

As I don't own any on the originals I would. :mrgreen:

I don't know anyone personally that owns the originals aside from a couple people in this thread.

[The_cranky_hermit]

They don't count unless they would buy a re-release that had native widescreen support.

[DaFox]

They don't count unless they would buy a re-release that had native widescreen support.

You would be surprised. Simply throwing something up on steam, even if that is the only thing that changed can generate some great sales (look at the original Quake on steam)

[The_cranky_hermit]

But they did throw it up on Steam. The recent cel-shaded one too. All of them with HD support.
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1184/

They didn't change anything, but they didn't change anything in the original Quake either. In fact, they made it worse by not including the music.