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Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 20:11
by bahnzii
I'm still going nutz waiting to order a 5870/2gb or a 5970/4gb, but until them here is a recent review I found.
Note: they review it as normal video card, no eyefinity testing :shock:

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=23079

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 21:45
by Paradigm Shifter
Note: they review it as normal video card, no eyefinity testing :shock:

There seem to be only two places that actually care about EyeFinity - the WSGF and HardOCP.

Almost everywhere else I've seen seems to treat it as a gimmick. :roll:

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 22:21
by Sideeffect
Yes just as the extra RAM starts to show an increase in performance due to the resolution they stop raising the resolution...

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 23:18
by skipclarke
I have my Eyefinity6 reviewing waiting until the embargo lift. I tested the 5870 and the 2GB 5870 Eyefinity6 all the way up to 3x1920x1200. I also tested at 3x1200x1920 (landscape) and 3x1920x1080, to compare the impact of the changing aspect ratios. I also tested a 5970, and the E6 in CFX. So, we've got a full range of options to compare. Just a few more days to wait.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 23:36
by bahnzii
^ so true...

I remember trying multi-monitors as just a large desktop on Mac's way back in the day.
And then later with a game (various iterations of ID Doom/Quake) - - the immersion was just incredible.

Hopefully the other reviewers see the light and realize the more peripheral vision the game encompasses the more immersive it is for the gamer :cheers

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 27 Mar 2010, 00:06
by Sideeffect
I have my Eyefinity6 reviewing waiting until the embargo lift. I tested the 5870 and the 2GB 5870 Eyefinity6 all the way up to 3x1920x1200. I also tested at 3x1200x1920 (landscape) and 3x1920x1080, to compare the impact of the changing aspect ratios. I also tested a 5970, and the E6 in CFX. So, we've got a full range of options to compare. Just a few more days to wait.


Cool. Any chance you can test Metro 2033? That game takes a 50 - 60% FPS frame hit when running at 5040 x 1050 so I have to play at 3840 x 800. I'm wondering if its VRAM limited or just a crappy unoptimised port. :)

I run the game in Directx11 High with tessellation on DOF off 3840 x 800 and its around 40 FPS. 5040 x 1050 same settings its around 20FPS.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 27 Mar 2010, 01:45
by bahnzii
Metro 2033 sure sounds like the "new" Crysis in terms of stressing a machine. I can't help but wonder even though it might be a graphical 'tour de force' if the code is not very optimized, especially when I read that the Advanced DOF option is a frame rate killer...

It would be nice to see someone like Anandtech dissect the graphics options so we can see truly what they are doing.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 27 Mar 2010, 03:14
by skipclarke
Does it have a benchmark tool? I need something that is easy to do, and easily reproducible. Between now and the 31st I will be focusing on writing my review. I still plan to add more benchmarks after that.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 27 Mar 2010, 03:46
by Sideeffect
Does it have a benchmark tool? I need something that is easy to do, and easily reproducible. Between now and the 31st I will be focusing on writing my review. I still plan to add more benchmarks after that.


No it doesn't have a timedemo or benchmark tool. Hopefully they will release something soon in a patch or separate demo.

They kind of reproduced the problem here although they were in very high quality mode. As you can see the 5800 series takes a huge nosedive when the resolution goes up to 2560x1600. Probably needs a driver update to fix whats going on there.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_480_Fermi/27.html

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 27 Mar 2010, 05:30
by ChristopherB
Does it have a benchmark tool? I need something that is easy to do, and easily reproducible. Between now and the 31st I will be focusing on writing my review. I still plan to add more benchmarks after that.


Just Cause 2 has a built in benchmarking tool and almost supports Eyefinity "out of the box". There is a slight glitch when hijacking vehicles and the GUI isn't centered, but it runs well at Eyefinity resolutions and the benchmarking tool is easy to use.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 28 Mar 2010, 20:15
by Aix
Yes just as the extra RAM starts to show an increase in performance due to the resolution they stop raising the resolution...


Yeah, that was a completely useless review considering that the whole point of the 2GB cards is to support Eyefinity resolutions. They might as well review the Eyefinity6 on a single monitor as well. :doh

Definitely excited to see Ibrin's review, even more so than I was to see how the GTX 480 would shape up. I'll be very surprised if there isn't at least a couple of giant leaps in performance, considering that even at my "lowly" 5292x1050 I'm pushing 1.3 million more pixels than a 2650x1600 setup.

If the price is decent and the results are there then I'm hoping for a Crossfire setup once they're released.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 28 Mar 2010, 23:00
by Anprionsa
I have my Eyefinity6 reviewing waiting until the embargo lift. I tested the 5870 and the 2GB 5870 Eyefinity6 all the way up to 3x1920x1200. I also tested at 3x1200x1920 (landscape) and 3x1920x1080, to compare the impact of the changing aspect ratios. I also tested a 5970, and the E6 in CFX. So, we've got a full range of options to compare. Just a few more days to wait.


Bah, it has to come soon! Thursday FTW!

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 29 Mar 2010, 09:05
by Sideeffect
[quote]Yes just as the extra RAM starts to show an increase in performance due to the resolution they stop raising the resolution...


Yeah, that was a completely useless review considering that the whole point of the 2GB cards is to support Eyefinity resolutions. They might as well review the Eyefinity6 on a single monitor as well. :doh

Definitely excited to see Ibrin's review, even more so than I was to see how the GTX 480 would shape up. I'll be very surprised if there isn't at least a couple of giant leaps in performance, considering that even at my "lowly" 5292x1050 I'm pushing 1.3 million more pixels than a 2650x1600 setup.

If the price is decent and the results are there then I'm hoping for a Crossfire setup once they're released.

Indeed, I'm also considering upgrading from my single 5850 1GB to a 5870 with 2GB if it does show an advantage at higher resolution. If the difference is small I might try crossfire 5850 instead.

Ibrin if you could include 5850 1GB crossfire results for comparison that would be awesome 8) Shaders vs Framebuffer in ultra resolution!

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 29 Mar 2010, 15:07
by skipclarke
Indeed, I'm also considering upgrading from my single 5850 1GB to a 5870 with 2GB if it does show an advantage at higher resolution. If the difference is small I might try crossfire 5850 instead.

Ibrin if you could include 5850 1GB crossfire results for comparison that would be awesome 8) Shaders vs Framebuffer in ultra resolution!

Sorry, I only have one 5850. Thus, I cannot test 5850 in CFX.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 29 Mar 2010, 15:51
by Sideeffect
Nevermind. Do you have a 5970 2GB? That seems to get similar results to 5850 crossfire.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 29 Mar 2010, 20:51
by spammeister
Why only do 2GB, why not just make a 4GB version. I remember reading somewhere that these cards could handle up to 4GB of memory. 2GB doesn't really interest me as an upgrade, but some sort of 6870 with 4GB memory would.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 29 Mar 2010, 22:27
by skipclarke
Nevermind. Do you have a 5970 2GB? That seems to get similar results to 5850 crossfire.

I do, and it was tested.
Why only do 2GB, why not just make a 4GB version. I remember reading somewhere that these cards could handle up to 4GB of memory. 2GB doesn't really interest me as an upgrade, but some sort of 6870 with 4GB memory would.

I also have the E6 in CFX, which is basically the 4GB 5970.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 21:46
by spammeister
I mean a 5870 with 4GB of ram.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 23:24
by Sideeffect
I mean a 5870 with 4GB of ram.


No such thing and never will be. It would be a total waste no current games could actually use that much RAM even in eyefinity and by the time they can the 5870 will be outdated in other ways.

Re: Sapphire 5870 2gb review up on Hexus...

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 00:18
by k-y
Get your pre-orders in!

https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-587_2GB&title=Sapphire-Radeon-HD5870-2GB-DDR5-6x-Mini-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-Video-Card

And, the price is $499 which is indeed in between a 5870 and a 5970.