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Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 21 Mar 2010, 04:19
by iThinman
Just noticed this!
http://downloads.guru3d.com/ATI-CrossFireX-Profile-Application-1.0-download-2501.html
Installed. Got a nice bump in BFBC2. Also, my Afterburner graph appear more realistic (prior, both GPU's were just pegged).
No clue where it sits or how to access it yet. Cant find an icon off SM or option in CCC. Smart people, please tell me how (or if I need to) use this, or if I just install the updates as new profiles become available.
:)
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 21 Mar 2010, 04:51
by Dave Baumann
The "profiles" are not end user profiles, but a mechanism for us to patch the profiles that are stored within the driver ourside of a driver release. So, if you installed Cat 10.3a and then installed the update then you'll have the latest profiles that are available.
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 21 Mar 2010, 04:55
by iThinman
The "profiles" are not end user profiles, but a mechanism for us to patch the profiles that are stored within the driver ourside of a driver release. So, if you installed Cat 10.3a and then installed the update then you'll have the latest profiles that are available.
Sweet, sounds like that's exactely where I am at. Working great. Thanks for the info Dave.
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 21 Mar 2010, 17:04
by titoray
Has anybody tries this with 2x 5970's running in eyefinity?
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 21 Mar 2010, 21:36
by bowenac
Is there a single card profile anywhere? How big of a boost did you get?
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 21 Mar 2010, 22:39
by Sideeffect
It lists AvP -> Single GPU and Crossfire profile
So I installed it even though I don't have crossfire. Havn't tested if there are any benifits yet though.
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 21 Mar 2010, 23:58
by bowenac
It lists AvP -> Single GPU and Crossfire profile
So I installed it even though I don't have crossfire. Havn't tested if there are any benifits yet though.
Yea I did notice that. I installed it anyway as well. I guess I just don't understand how these profiles work so if anyone knows could they educate me on them. Why is it that some games are only for crossfire, but some games on the list say single gpu as well. Are there any separate profiles just for single card users. Again I don't really understand how these work so I guess I just don't understand how and why these profiles would only benefit a crossfire setup. Specifically BFBC2 so if there is a single card profile for that game then where is it.
Another question I have is do you have to enable these profiles somewhere or what. And why don't they just include this in the CCC suite as part of the driver.
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 22 Mar 2010, 13:54
by Moezilla
Single and multi-gpu profiles are included in the driver releases we download every month (9.12, 10.1, etc). They are internal to the driver and not visible in CCC. They load automatically when the game is launched.
In the past, if a big new game came out in between driver releases then ATI would often issue a hotfix driver which would weigh in at 100MB+.
With the Application Profiles Update patcher they can add single and multi-gpu profiles for new games and update older games' profiles whenever necessary and keep the filesize to less than 1MB.
For us it means a smaller download and a quicker response from ATI to new games.
For ATI it means less bandwidth and less QA.
The word "profiles" is a bit of a sticking point. There are Application Profiles and CCC Profiles. Application Profiles are described above while CCC Profiles allow you to save your settings on any or all of the pages of CCC and load them up via the Profiles Manager, shortcut, tray icon or hotkey. These are visible in CCC under Options -> Profiles. Both are usually just referred to as profiles so there can be some confusion. Especially as you can also use a CCC Profile to launch an application with your choice of AA/AF/vsync/etc.
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 22 Mar 2010, 14:42
by bowenac
Single and multi-gpu profiles are included in the driver releases we download every month (9.12, 10.1, etc). They are internal to the driver and not visible in CCC. They load automatically when the game is launched.
In the past, if a big new game came out in between driver releases then ATI would often issue a hotfix driver which would weigh in at 100MB+.
With the Application Profiles Update patcher they can add single and multi-gpu profiles for new games and update older games' profiles whenever necessary and keep the filesize to less than 1MB.
For us it means a smaller download and a quicker response from ATI to new games.
For ATI it means less bandwidth and less QA.
The word "profiles" is a bit of a sticking point. There are Application Profiles and CCC Profiles. Application Profiles are described above while CCC Profiles allow you to save your settings on any or all of the pages of CCC and load them up via the Profiles Manager, shortcut, tray icon or hotkey. These are visible in CCC under Options -> Profiles. Both are usually just referred to as profiles so there can be some confusion. Especially as you can also use a CCC Profile to launch an application with your choice of AA/AF/vsync/etc.
Hey thanks a lot that answered most of questions about them.
One more question, how do they determine what profiles they are going to create. I see there is a BFBC2 for crossfire but why no Single GPU.
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 22 Mar 2010, 21:08
by Moezilla
This is guesswork but I'm sure ATI and Nvidia work with developers at some point before release to get the games running as well as possible on their hardware. If the game has licensed an engine which ATI/Nvidia are already familiar with (Unreal, etc) then I'd imagine getting the profiles ready would be a lot quicker than a proprietary engine. I would guess that they write profiles for most new games in order to get the best performance on their hardware via compatability flags and/or af/aa/shader optimisations.
The single-gpu profile for BFBC2 was probably included in the 10.2 or 10.3 preview driver.
They either didn't have a fully optimised crossfire profile ready in time to be in those drivers or they wanted lots of attention on the new app profile updater so they held the CF profile for that (marketing is important around the time of your competitions product release dates :wink: )
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 08 Apr 2010, 07:21
by iThinman
New Prifles posted by Terry tonight!
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33961771
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 08 Apr 2010, 21:53
by Aix
New Prifles posted by Terry tonight!
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33961771
I can confirm that these remove the horizontal line glitching in Battlefield: Bad Company 2. It's nice because I just installed my second 5870 today with the older profiles and experienced the glitch for the first time. Then I noticed the April 7th profiles and loaded 'em up! The game played flawlessly in Eyefinity during the 4-5 rounds I played afterward. :rockout
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 08 Apr 2010, 22:55
by skipclarke
The "profiles" are not end user profiles, but a mechanism for us to patch the profiles that are stored within the driver ourside of a driver release. So, if you installed Cat 10.3a and then installed the update then you'll have the latest profiles that are available.
Just to confirm, these are cumulative, correct? As long as you get the latest, there is no need to track down old ones. And, if you have to reinstall your OS or clean sweep the driver, no need to do incremental applications, correct?
Re: Crossfire Profiles!
Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 16:58
by Moezilla
Just to confirm, these are cumulative, correct? As long as you get the latest, there is no need to track down old ones. And, if you have to reinstall your OS or clean sweep the driver, no need to do incremental applications, correct?
There's a nice FAQ about the application profiles updates over at rage3d -
Link
The answer to your question according to the FAQ is:
"Older versions of Application Profiles don't need to be installed, just those newer than the driver release - for example, if you install Cat 10.3, you don't need the 10.2 Profile Update."