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RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 18:54
by mustangdelta
Although I want to see if the videos really represent the game, will the final product be stuck with the DRM thats burning up the forums???

http://www.nothingbutpcgaming.com/news/news/its-no-ruse-the-games-demo-is-here

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 19:14
by StingingVelvet
I wonder if I can read a thread about an Ubisoft game for the next few years without seeing the phrase "DRM."

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 19:20
by Paradigm Shifter
No, you aren't.

It's going to take some time, after Ubisoft having the latest Prince of Persia sell fairly well on the PC without DRM (despite being, frankly, shitty) for their sudden mega-fail-DRM attempt to be forgotten or forgiven. ;)

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 19:31
by mustangdelta
I wonder if I can read a thread about an Ubisoft game for the next few years without seeing the phrase "DRM."


Actually I think Ubisoft, DRM and [insert rant here] are pretty much a given for the forseeable future... :lol:

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 21:06
by StingingVelvet
No, you aren't.

It's going to take some time, after Ubisoft having the latest Prince of Persia sell fairly well on the PC without DRM (despite being, frankly, shitty) for their sudden mega-fail-DRM attempt to be forgotten or forgiven. ;)


Weird you say that since every news story I ever read said Prince of Persia sold like crap and it was in the Target clearance bin like a week after release.

Anyway, my point was more that DRM is only that important to a small fraction of the user base, yet people against it are so loud it constantly comes up at every turn on forums. Most people just want to talk about the game...

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 21:56
by Paradigm Shifter
Weird you say that since every news story I ever read said Prince of Persia sold like crap and it was in the Target clearance bin like a week after release.

Anyway, my point was more that DRM is only that important to a small fraction of the user base, yet people against it are so loud it constantly comes up at every turn on forums. Most people just want to talk about the game...

To be fair... "most" people don't even know forums exist. By default, those tech-savvy enough to find forums and be active on them are going to be aware of the DRM, and thus are going to talk about it. Perhaps it's just the forums I visit, but I've seen no real discussion of the game and lots of discussion about the DRM...

I ended up buying a novel adaptation of AC2 (it was £2) so most of the reason I buy games like that is covered - the story...

The latest PoP was crap, and yes it hit clearance quickly, but considering how quickly it hit the clearance bin, it did sell fairly well. I suspect many of the sales were after it hit budget-price. It wasn't record breaking, but then that franchise has been slowly losing popularity. Even the console versions were slammed in reviews that I saw, so what do you expect of the PC port? Honestly, it was like Ubisoft did it deliberately, so they could say, [sarcasm] "Look, it sold like shit, it must be the dirty stinking filty pirates wot done it! Let's invent some heavy new DRM!" [/sarcasm]

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 23:43
by g00seberry
I wonder if I can read a thread about an Ubisoft game for the next few years without seeing the phrase "DRM."

It will if you bring it up in the second post in a yet another flame-bating way. Some of your posts are becoming quite tiresome.


I've had the demo pre-loaded on Steam since you were able to now, and although I'm not an RTS fan, it's got me interested after PC Gamer UK did a little piece on it - sounded like a lot of fun deceiving a mate. :D

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 00:07
by StingingVelvet
To be fair... "most" people don't even know forums exist. By default, those tech-savvy enough to find forums and be active on them are going to be aware of the DRM, and thus are going to talk about it. Perhaps it's just the forums I visit, but I've seen no real discussion of the game and lots of discussion about the DRM...


I suppose the tech-savy thing is true, but I kind of look at it as no one is going to change anyone's mind, you either find the idea of DRM repulsive and are not buying the game or you don't really care/will crack it anyway. I don't mind DRM discussion, it just seems like any thread started for the next two years about the gameplay will also have "of course with this DRM..." at the end of it, like the original post here.

It's just like... I dunno... let's not talk about it. I'm tired, lol.

The latest PoP was crap, and yes it hit clearance quickly, but considering how quickly it hit the clearance bin, it did sell fairly well. I suspect many of the sales were after it hit budget-price. It wasn't record breaking, but then that franchise has been slowly losing popularity. Even the console versions were slammed in reviews that I saw, so what do you expect of the PC port? Honestly, it was like Ubisoft did it deliberately, so they could say, [sarcasm] "Look, it sold like shit, it must be the dirty stinking filty pirates wot done it! Let's invent some heavy new DRM!" [/sarcasm]


I've never looked up sales figures for it, I just know I have read they were dissapointing... perhaps because people waited for the bin, I dunno. It was not a very good game though, I am glad they are moving back to the original Sands of Time vibe.

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 00:09
by StingingVelvet
It will if you bring it up in the second post in a yet another flame-bating way. Some of your posts are becoming quite tiresome.


I wasn't flame-baiting, I was expressing frustration because a thread on the RUSE beta has to start with a comment about DRM. I didn't bring it up, I responded to it, and I would appreciate not being personally bashed for it. It's not very moderator-like, for one thing.

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 03:19
by mustangdelta
Soooooo........

Tried the demo....pretty interesting. Clever graphics and interesting gameplay. Want to put in a few more hours of playing time before giving feedback.....

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 10:45
by Paradigm Shifter
It's just like... I dunno... let's not talk about it. I'm tired, lol.

I've never looked up sales figures for it, I just know I have read they were dissapointing... perhaps because people waited for the bin, I dunno. It was not a very good game though, I am glad they are moving back to the original Sands of Time vibe.

Aye.

I saw some sales figures comparing console to PC sales although I can't remember what they were (more important things to remember!) and given that it was released on both the PS3 and the 360 (and there was no differentiation between the two) the console version sold terribly. Can't expect much more of the PC version then... especially when it's two platforms' sales vs. one platforms' sales. Basically, it was a shitty game that should never have been released. It's currently £10 on Amazon UK for the 360 version, £12 for the PS3 version, and £6 for the PC version.

...

As for Ruse, I'll load up the demo and see how it plays. I was utterly disappointed in SupCom2. To be honest, I've not found a great RTS in quite a while. They're either too complex to be fun, or just... crap.

Oh, for another Dune RTS. Emperor was awesome. :)

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 15:13
by Yui
I'm not a fan of RUSE's graphics. I've tried the beta and I wasn't that impressed. It's hard not to compare it with world in conflict, which I think was a lot better.

Re: RUSE Demo is finally here

Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 01:10
by mustangdelta
I'm not a fan of RUSE's graphics. I've tried the beta and I wasn't that impressed. It's hard not to compare it with world in conflict, which I think was a lot better.


The graphics are different and I like the unusual approach. Its like the Team fortress of RTS, cartoony but still needs the tactics of other more serious looking RTS games.

The game appears to give the player the choice of playing from god-level to down and close (as in World in Conflict) Between the slightly different graphics and different take on the supply chain its nice to see somoen thryong something slightly different.