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Necrovision
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 22:37
by scavvenjahh
Your character has two hands. Your mouse has two buttons. Well go grab two weapons !!
This is NOT your generic low-budget russian FPS. Everyone will agree that being called Brute Willis or Herr Doktor for creative combo kills is a reward in itself. Then there's adrenalin... secrets... and the subtly-cheesy dialogs. :D
http://www.necrovision-game.com/
Official english demo is out.
Resolutions are a bit limited atm (2560x1600 works ok but there's no 1080p, no TripleHead, and editing config.ini doesn't work) but a patch *should* address that soon after the game's release. Not sure if there'll be an updated demo though.
I've not even beaten the demo, but already ordered the game. I'm so glad the guys came up with this crazy project rather than a probably so-so Painkiller 2 !
Necrovision
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 00:56
by Frag Maniac
COOL, sorta looks like Hellraiser meets Doom3, with a touch of Painkiller. I can't believe how poor in image quality that trailer was though. I'll be DLing the demo for sure, thanks for the heads up. :wink:
Necrovision
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 02:39
by StingingVelvet
I liked the demo a lot... sort of a bit slower-paced Painkiller, which I like the idea of. Graphics looked good, despite all the blur.
I'll get it when it releases in the states.
Necrovision
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 07:41
by Frag Maniac
You guys are talking about a playable demo right? What do you mean by all the blur? Is there motion blur that can't be turned off?
Necrovision
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 11:25
by scavvenjahh
There's a ton of blur, which
can be turned off ;) All graphical options are widely customizable in the demo, if you except the resolution. The trailers and screenshots don't do the game justice.
For SLI users, nhancer profiles are as follows (thanks to
Evga's effort) :
DX9 : AFR 4-way, compatibility checkboxes 16/18/20/22/25, AFR2. [0x02550005]
DX10 : AFR 4-way, compatibility checkboxes 04/05/06/07. [0x000000F5]
Necrovision
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 14:48
by Frag Maniac
OMG, I can't believe how bad this game is. The menu is very Painkiller-like, but the game itself reeks of horribly optimized value game with bad graphics and tons of laggy, pauses, etc. What's worse is the gameplay is all about just wading through zombies.
Painkiller has way better graphics, runs way smoother, has better enemies, and more to do. There's just no comparison, and I don't even like PK that much anymore. Heck, I didn't even bother with the latest expansion except to try the demo.
I can't even give this game a rating it's so bad.
Necrovision
Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 02:38
by StingingVelvet
OMG, I can't believe how bad this game is. The menu is very Painkiller-like, but the game itself reeks of horribly optimized value game with bad graphics and tons of laggy, pauses, etc. What's worse is the gameplay is all about just wading through zombies.
Painkiller has way better graphics, runs way smoother, has better enemies, and more to do. There's just no comparison, and I don't even like PK that much anymore. Heck, I didn't even bother with the latest expansion except to try the demo.
I can't even give this game a rating it's so bad.
I certainly don't agree... I guess it's all subjective though, except for graphics. I don't see how you can knock the visuals, or say Painkillers were better.
Necrovision
Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 03:10
by g00seberry
See I would mostly agree. The graphics were very nice, but the gameplay was horrible. I couldn't play it for more than 10minutes :(
Necrovision
Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 12:27
by scavvenjahh
Heheheh. That's part of the game's charm. It won't sell millions. It's so easy to hate at first sight. 8) People steering clear of it after their first try just don't know what they're missing.
-The game crawls with all options cranked up, aim for at least 40-50 fps to enjoy the pretty fast, "busy" gameplay.
-Progress is scripted : everything may feel messy the first time, but it gives the game an excellent replayability, once you know what to do and decide of your "strategy" and pace of action.
-If you're just moving around and shooting things, maybe you should take a couple minutes to learn the controls (kick, throw, adrenalin...)
-Samewise, learn the sounds and you'll soon forget about the HUD.
-Looking for a better weapon and get rid of the usual gun/knife underdog kit makes no sense here : anything goes, it's all about combos !
-Zombies are not the main enemy, just a fuel source. The more the better... sort of :)
Again, this is not any FPS. People remotely fed up with lazy, generic, hollow shooters should give Necrovision more than a quick try. Oh - I'm not saying you can't dislike it :lol:
Necrovision
Posted: 28 Feb 2009, 04:21
by Frag Maniac
I dropped textures from high to med, and severely lowered or shut off many options after seeing how poorly optimized it is. At first I thought there was going to be a noticeable improvement in performance because immediately I could move around crisper and faster.
However once the AI spawned and particularly once the physics of killing them engaged, things went right back to a crawl with huge pauses. I mean I'd get a head shot, the headshot icon would show, then seconds later after the video froze, the action would continue, but in slow motion physics.
I admit, I have a mere P4 3Ghz HyperThreading single core CPU, but my God I can play Assassins Creed, Stranglehold, Far Cry 2, and other games that supposedly require dual core with WAY better performance AND graphics settings. Were I to turn everything down as low as possible, the graphics would look even worse, and they already look much worse than even good old PK at Med.
I seriously doubt putting everything as low as possible would eliminate all the lag, stutter and pauses either. Anyways, I uninstalled it and can't see trying it again, even after building my uber rig around year's end. It just doesn't have much gameplay appeal even if it weren't for the performance issues.
Necrovision
Posted: 28 Feb 2009, 19:33
by Mergatroid
Tried it. Hated it.
Necrovision
Posted: 02 Mar 2009, 20:54
by StingingVelvet
I admit, I have a mere P4 3Ghz HyperThreading single core CPU, but my God I can play Assassins Creed, Stranglehold, Far Cry 2, and other games that supposedly require dual core with WAY better performance AND graphics settings.
True or not, you really have to ask yourself how much longer you can hold out with that extremely old processor, especially when games are more and more being designed around multi-core and take more and more advantage of them.
For all the complaints it got, Assassin's Creed was actually a very well ported game, I agree.
Necrovision
Posted: 03 Mar 2009, 01:15
by Frag Maniac
True or not, you really have to ask yourself how much longer you can hold out with that extremely old processor, especially when games are more and more being designed around multi-core and take more and more advantage of them.
Yeah, it is getting to the point where it's common for me to worry about whether it will play certain games adequately, but usually the ones that are too laggy to play at all aren't worth playing and horribly optimized. I spend just as much time, in fact more so, speculating about poor game development as I do my rig's capabilities. It's really hard to justify short, expensive upgrade cycles on PC hardware when we get such crap ports all the time.
It's rather ironic too that despite Crysis and Warhead still being used by many as THE benchmark references due to their hardware choking nature, they are two of the titles that play quite well on my rig, but that's partly due to my using common sense in choosing settings carefully, along with a few Cvar tweaks.
Many still don't even know for instance that Crytek caps the usable video memory to 256MB. Unless you use the proper Cvar tweak, any GPU larger in memory, of which there are many now, will only use 256MB. I'm willing to bet even some trusted game review sites that spew lots of tech info about hardware, drivers and settings don't even know that or use that command.
That being said, I have planned a new build for some time. Originally it was slated for end of '07 with E6700, 8800GTX, and 2GB RAM. Then end of '08 with i7, GTX280, and 4GB RAM. Now I'm looking at probably X58, i7, GTX300, 6GB RAM, and e-IPS display(if a larger one is made).
Last build (this one) I didn't time very well, paying a lot for the X800XT that had just come out, suffering through about 4.5 yrs now of X800/X1000 series stutters/bad drivers, and puttting up with a rather clumsy dual CRT disaply setup. This time I want to make sure I'm happy with what I pick out for some time.
Necrovision
Posted: 03 Mar 2009, 19:17
by StingingVelvet
Sounds like you have a good plan... I usually just upgrade randomly and on impulse, so you're already wayyyyyyy ahead of me :)
Necrovision
Posted: 04 Mar 2009, 01:17
by Frag Maniac
I usually just upgrade randomly and on impulse, so you're already wayyyyyyy ahead of me :)
Well, for me, a lot of it has to do with how many types of games I play and how patient I am to play the ones I like. There's a lot of types of games I don't play. I generally stay away from fight or melee combat button mashers, hardcore RPGs and RTS type games.
Gloming onto every new release that comes out via a lack of patience can be a bad thing. Besides getting into genres that I don't enjoy much and/or do well at, there are technical issues to consider.
I constantly hear of people buying games when they first come out, only to have to wait weeks or months for a much needed patch. Sometimes you can burn out on a game before there's even proper support for it out of anxiety.
Often times what trains a frugal PC gamer to practice patience in upgrades anymore is the numerous ports released in such unpolished states. Many of them have you wondering whether it's their high tech graphics that has you reaching for better gear or that they need patching. It doesn't hurt to wait a few months to see if the devs find they can offer a performance patch.
Necrovision
Posted: 04 Mar 2009, 06:02
by StingingVelvet
Yeah, I wish I was that smart. I am definately of the "buy it now" mentality, born from being spoiled as a child I guess, along with normal American consumerism.
I tend to do better with hardware... I don't buy every new video card that comes out, I wait for larger upgrades, and I have never done an SLI setup.
With games though... I think I buy all of them... :oops:
Necrovision
Posted: 04 Mar 2009, 07:31
by Frag Maniac
Then again, what the economy needs right now is people getting out and spending, so you're doing your part. That being said, a big part of what caused the housing recession in the US, a major part of what's negatively affected the economy, is people not being more frugal and trusting big lending corporations too much.
Essentially what goes in comes out. Making a lot of bad financial decisions can lead to debt, which in turn leads to overly cautious spending. On a large scale, as we are now experiencing, that equals a lack of needed stimulus in the economy, further exacerbating the problem.
I've never done SLI either, but plan to leave it open as an upgrade path this time around. In the past it made sense to forgo it. Now it's come into it's own because the new GPUs scale in performance much better.
Necrovision
Posted: 04 Mar 2009, 13:36
by scavvenjahh
With games though... I think I buy all of them... :oops:
So do I, and my Necrovision arrived with today's mail btw :D
Necrovision
Posted: 05 Mar 2009, 22:30
by scavvenjahh
The full game is a mess of verbose cut scenes :lol: but it's definitely nice to play. The learning curve is a lot less steep than in the demo. Pushing barrels and looking for secret areas will bring back good memories to Painkiller fans, even though Necrovision is really a different game. Challenge mode is what will keep you (I mean, essentially me) going though. Killing 50 undead with a gun and shovel in a tiny arena is much more challenging (and fun) that it may seem. And success grants you better stats for the campaign, just like finding secret areas. So the game is beheaded, but not schizophrenic. Pretty cool.
Man oh man, the graphics may be ugly, but to wield dual Gatling guns in zombie-ridden trenches, tap into your adrenalin for slo-mo, or combo-kill enemies in slo-mo with shots, thrusts, stabs, throws and kicks - that's what makes being an adult so great 8)
Okay, I gotta confess ws support is close to nil. :cry:
Necrovision
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 04:50
by Mach1.9pants
I take it no Surround support?