WTF is with these email notifications?

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 21 Feb 2007, 03:23

Notifications of replies I receive from WSGF always seem to carry a really lengthy message header which forces me to scroll well down into the message to get to the topic link. This is the only forum I'm subscribed to for which this happens.

I've removed my email address from the following, but the remainder is the complete message header for an example notification. It's obviously a spam filter of some description, but is it at my ISP or is it at the sending end? I have no local spam filtering in place other than that in MS Outlook, and Outlook lets everything else through without this crud included in it.

I'm puzzled.

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JohnnyWakko · Post by **JohnnyWakko** » 21 Feb 2007, 03:51

:welcome

Post by **skipclarke** » 21 Feb 2007, 04:08

I have a spam filter on the domain at the host. It helps keep down the mounds of spam I get through the account, and help ensure no one hi-jacks my domain for spam. I've never gotten a notification with such a huge header?

What email program are you using? Can you set whether it shows full headers?

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 21 Feb 2007, 04:50

I use Outlook, and can't find any settings which seem in any way relevent.

Anyways, as mentioned WSGF forum notifications are the only mail whatsoever for which this occurs.

skeeder · Post by **skeeder** » 21 Feb 2007, 05:24

:welcome

ROFL

it should be in your profile...under
Always notify me of replies:
Sends an e-mail when someone replies to a topic you have posted in. This can be changed whenever you post.

Just turn it off,

unless you want notices in which case it could just be the way it sends the message.

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 21 Feb 2007, 06:01

skeeder, the whole point of the topic is that I want notifications, and am investigating why such messages from this specific forum come in such a way.

It's unusual behaviour

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 21 Feb 2007, 10:07

From the looks of things, it's Doreo's spamfilter, and one somewhere in your ISP.

You should see the headers I get on some of my university e-mail... :shock:

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 21 Feb 2007, 10:18

I've checked since posting last and, as I suspected, I don't actually have Spam filtering enabled on any of my ISP email accounts. The only thing I have active is the Junkmail feature of Outlook, and that doesn't add headers.

Edit: I've sent a query to my ISP, to confirm whether this comes from there or not.

Post by **skipclarke** » 21 Feb 2007, 14:38

I've set up a reply notification for this thread, to see what I get. So, someone reply.

P-Storm · Post by **P-Storm** » 21 Feb 2007, 14:44

Reply for Ibrin :D

Post by **skipclarke** » 21 Feb 2007, 15:24

This is all I get, though I am using Mac Mail on OSX. Can someone else with a Windows-based email program try?

From: [email protected]
Subject: Topic Reply Notification - WTF is with these email notifications?
Date: February 21, 2007 7:44:14 AM CST
To: Undisclosed-recipients:;
Reply-To: [email protected]

Hello,

You are receiving this email because you are watching the topic, "WTF is with these email notifications?" at Widescreen Gaming Forum. This topic has received a reply since your last visit. You can use the following link to view the replies made, no more notifications will be sent until you visit the topic.

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/7414#comment-148956

If you no longer wish to watch this topic you can either click the "Stop watching this topic link" found at the bottom of the topic above, or by clicking the following link:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/7414

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Thanks,
Ibrin

X-Warrior · Post by **X-Warrior** » 22 Feb 2007, 18:12

Alright... get me a reply then.

Post by **ctrlsteef** » 22 Feb 2007, 18:37

bleep

X-Warrior · Post by **X-Warrior** » 22 Feb 2007, 19:22

This is what I get when I open the mail:

From: [email protected]
To: Undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Topic Reply Notification - WTF is with these email notifications?
Date sent: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:37:52 -0600
Send reply to: [email protected]

Hello,

You are receiving this email because you are watching the topic, "WTF is
with these email notifications?" at Widescreen Gaming Forum. This topic
has received a reply since your last visit. You can use the following link
to view the replies made, no more notifications will be sent until you
visit the topic.

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/7414#comment-148959

If you no longer wish to watch this topic you can either click the "Stop
watching this topic link" found at the bottom of the topic above, or by
clicking the following link:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/7414
pic

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Thanks,
Ibrin

The raw view looks like this:

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Hello,

You are receiving this email because you are watching the topic, "WTF is with these email notifications?" at Widescreen Gaming Forum. This topic has received a reply since your last visit. You can use the following link to view the replies made, no more notifications will be sent until you visit the topic.

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/7414#comment-148959

If you no longer wish to watch this topic you can either click the "Stop watching this topic link" found at the bottom of the topic above, or by clicking the following link:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/7414

--
Thanks,
Ibrin

Using Pegasus Mail by the way. I edited out my email address.

The mail does have all the headers, but they do not show as a default.

Catweazle, are you accidentally viewing everything in raw format ? Or some option to show full headers ?

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 22 Feb 2007, 19:55

Nope.

I'm receiving these in that raw format, but all other mail comes in perfectly fine. It's only the WSGF reply notifications which come in this format.

My ISP reports:

Thank you for your email,

To answer your questions, the headers are added during the email's trip.
As it passes through each individual server it is tagged and sent onwards. There is nothing in place at Netspace that will mark an email to appear with full-headers. It is possibly something that Outlook is showing, however in our testing we have been unable to replicate the issue.

I've been unable to find anything in Outlook to replicate it with other mail either.

No big deal, though. It was only a curiousity, and if it isn't happening for other members then there's no problem really.

Cheers