Skyrim Multi-Monitor User Interface Fix Discussion

[c69]

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@Helifax, I'm not sure if this has already been discussed, but the "-" view setting for two-paged books works for me. However, single pages (notes, bounties, etc.) have about 40% of the text spilling off the left side of the paper and not shown. This happens with any Dark Brotherhood assassin's note, for example.

I have also experienced this. left 30% of text is cut off on scrolls.

I haven't actually looked into scrolls:( But I will this evening...

As for the IF STATEMENT part...well is very hard to implement it in assembly especially when you don't have the source code of the game...,. I believe many thing are "returned" when opening a book or a scroll. All I do is manipulating the rendering offset...which breaks the damn hud as you can see it squished to the left...when reading a book.
For scrolls it looks like they are using a different rendering offset...

I will look into it this evening and will try to find a common ground for both books and scrolls:)

Helifax,
I researched Cheat Engine a bit, wondering if it had a CLI, which I do not think it does. (was hoping to wrap your work in a script!) But it appears that there is a way to customize the interface. It seems possible that once you get the fixes complete that you could provide a way to run CE with a custom Skyrim UI. Perhaps a few checkboxes for various resolutions and an "launch" button. I saw a UI like this for DragonAge II.

This would potentially eliminate all the difficulty users are having interfacing directly with CE.

[SilenTKK8]

Here is a complete package of the standard multi-monitor resolutions. I have only edited helifaxs original file resolutions to make them, no other changes were made. I did this so he could get a well deserved rest, enjoy the fruits of his long labor and to play Skyrim. I did this also for those having issues modifying this, I did as well initially. I have also included a detailed read me on how to properly run this fix, there are NO custom resolutions only standard multi-monitor resolutions.

Files in this package are: !Read ME!.txt, 5760.ct, 5040.ct, 4800.ct, 4320.ct, 4098.ct, 4080.ct, 3840.ct, 3072.ct and 2400.ct.

Thanks for these Kayden. I compared one of yours with my own (modify version of helifaxs), and saw I had three additional lines of code at the beginning??!

I will give this a try later on tonight.

Great community on this forum!

[Kayden]

Thanks for these Kayden. I compared one of yours with my own (modify version of helifaxs), and saw I had three additional lines of code at the beginning??!

I will give this a try later on tonight.

Great community on this forum!

No problem. That additional code was probably causing the Access Violation for me when I used the read book hotkey, with the method helifax outlined in his instructions. I never looked myself to figure it, just so long as it worked. (c;

For any one interested the file was put up under helifax's fix under the Detailed Report.

[vernacular]

This newer fix from helifax is pretty good. Just leaving things at the default "centered" configuration (which is greatly preferred):
Map
Good: Map works. Bad: When placing a marker on the map the dialogue is zoomed and the message doesn't display.
Skills:
Good: Centered with text appearing in the right places. Bad: Text is enormous, cuts off the bottom and very often overlaps becoming unreadable. Activating the "left" mode just throws all the text off to the left monitor while the items are in the center monitor.
Magic and Items:
Bad: Menus and items are zoomed. Having yet a 3rd mode just to align these to the left is not ideal.

If the skills, magic and item menus were shrunken and centered this fix would be near perfect. It would only need one toggle for reading books. Multiple toggles becomes convoluted and a hassle to work with.

[Intangible]

Heli ....

I have a question , triple screen works great on the set up you told me bout ...
But i am running at 1 Fps ? is there a reason why ? ... any other game Runs perfectly on eyefinity and smooth
The only SkyrimPrefs.ini file i have in my system is the one in the steam folder .. once I change it to 5760x 1080 I go to the TESV.exe start the game and its Running like a DOG
all bogged Down.. any advice or help ?

thanks

jayson

Pretty sure this guy is trolling. One of his posts said he was running a server board with 7x 1TB HD? Plus 2x 6990s? I'm not buying it.

[HaYDeN]

Just about done....

1 Toggle (for going into map only)

Additionally also the option to keep it spanned, but not blown up... (zero toggles, but spanned as per pic)



Altho personally I rather the minor quirks that accompany the fully centered HUD

[cp_clegg]

HaYDeN, will your fix work with bezel corrected resolutions such that menus and HUD text won't be drawn in the areas blocked by bezels?

[wt73]

Just about done....

Hot damn

[AmeerNuub]

Just about done....

1 Toggle (for going into map only)

Additionally also the option to keep it spanned, but not blown up... (zero toggles, but spanned as per pic)



Altho personally I rather the minor quirks that accompany the fully centered HUD

Countless thanks to you for what you've done.

Though, I would dare to guess that so many here would be immensely appreciative if you were to release what you have now, and update when perfected... I can hardly imagine a reputation such as yours would be tarnished for such... quite the contrary!

Whatever you decide, thanks again.

[HaYDeN]

HaYDeN, will your fix work with bezel corrected resolutions such that menus and HUD text won't be drawn in the areas blocked by bezels?

Did the previous fix cause problems? because it shouldn't have, I have tried bezel compensation when some others mentioned it.... worked fine.

So for example for me 5760x1080 (NOT bezel compensated) and 5780x1080 (WITH bezel compensation)... the same still applies, 5760/3 or 5780/3 .. the resolution is not the same when bezel compensated.

Basically.. if it doesn't work.. your not entering the correct details.

[c69]

Just about done....

1 Toggle (for going into map only)

Additionally also the option to keep it spanned, but not blown up... (zero toggles, but spanned as per pic)



Altho personally I rather the minor quirks that accompany the fully centered HUD

Looks great. So am I correct that you have a mode with centered UI, that has only one flaw, that you have to use a toggle to correctly read the map? Do the books and scolls work too? Are the load screens viewable/readable? Are inventory items chopped?

[thales100]

Just about done....

Awesome news !

[helifax]

I updated the CT table so now it allows you to properly read books and scrolls!
The same quick-keys apply:) for toggling between mods!

Best Regard,
Helifax

Attached files

Center_Stretched+Book_Fix.rar (2.7 KB)

[SilenTKK8]

I updated the CT table so now it allows you to properly read books and scrolls!
The same quick-keys apply:) for toggling between mods!

Best Regard,
Helifax

Just got home and saw this :)

Thanks Helifax!

[thales100]

I updated the CT table so now it allows you to properly read books and scrolls!
The same quick-keys apply:) for toggling between mods!

Best Regard,
Helifax

Detaild Report updated with this new version. :onethumb

[Sabat9.0]

fully centered is the way to go, absolutely....I never liked having to look ALL THE WAY over to see my stats.

It might be heresy to some, but single player RPG's need fully customizable HUD's the way some of the big MMO's do it.

Perhaps as time goes on, we can get some sort of DARNifie'd UI for Skyrim.

Honestly I can't wait for Hayden and Halifax to get their hands on the TESV Construction Set....are you guys contemplating

further development of your sweet sweet awesome progress so far? Fully customizable HUDs preez?

Thanks for all you've done so far!

[mudda]

I created an account specifically to say "thank you" to those of you who are working on this. I truly admire the hacks that you are putting together, and I mean 'hacks' the way it was originally intended to mean. In short: AWESOME WORK.

The fact that you are willing to do this on your free time and with no compensation shows the type of people you really are, and I think all of us here appreciate it. If only Bethesda showed the same care for everyone that you do.

Cheers.
mudda

[SilenTKK8]

I updated the CT table so now it allows you to properly read books and scrolls!
The same quick-keys apply:) for toggling between mods!

Best Regard,
Helifax

Just implemented this onto my screen setting using text editor method. And I am extremely please to say...... (EVERYTHING WORKS!!!) inc books and scroll. Helifax you make me a very happy man!! I got eyefinity because of this game and you made it all happen.

One thing that I notice that is very minor; comparing this patch with the previous version, the map icons are slightly bigger than before but its function is spot on.

Please grant me this wish and allow me to donate something towards all the hard work you done on getting this game working.

[SeNate]

[quote]Heli ....

I have a question , triple screen works great on the set up you told me bout ...
But i am running at 1 Fps ? is there a reason why ? ... any other game Runs perfectly on eyefinity and smooth
The only SkyrimPrefs.ini file i have in my system is the one in the steam folder .. once I change it to 5760x 1080 I go to the TESV.exe start the game and its Running like a DOG
all bogged Down.. any advice or help ?

thanks

jayson

Pretty sure this guy is trolling. One of his posts said he was running a server board with 7x 1TB HD? Plus 2x 6990s? I'm not buying it.

Yeah, I have a 6990 + 6970 in tri-fire and I still get 40fps. With just the 6990 it acts as a "single" card for purposes of non CF support. So it runs better on just the 6990. I don't buy 1FPS either, unless he's running full AA on Ultra.

[c69]

[quote][quote]Heli ....

I have a question , triple screen works great on the set up you told me bout ...
But i am running at 1 Fps ? is there a reason why ? ... any other game Runs perfectly on eyefinity and smooth
The only SkyrimPrefs.ini file i have in my system is the one in the steam folder .. once I change it to 5760x 1080 I go to the TESV.exe start the game and its Running like a DOG
all bogged Down.. any advice or help ?

thanks

jayson

Pretty sure this guy is trolling. One of his posts said he was running a server board with 7x 1TB HD? Plus 2x 6990s? I'm not buying it.

Yeah, I have a 6990 + 6970 in tri-fire and I still get 40fps. With just the 6990 it acts as a "single" card for purposes of non CF support. So it runs better on just the 6990. I don't buy 1FPS either, unless he's running full AA on Ultra.

I buy it. I also get what seems like 1fps with two cards in CF. The graphics hang and its so slow, movement is not possible. OSD says 25fps, but that is obvisouly not the case, that would be playable. Hitting esc, takes a few seconds for the menu to open up. There is obviously something very wrong for a subset of users.