Le sigh.

[Fraggle42]

my problem with having a constant internet connection is I work a 7 on 7 off roster. So when I have my 7 off i'm at home with a reliable internet connection, but when im at work living in camp for a week I only have a unreliable wireless connection which is pre-paid. so if its constantly checking back with the server thats using up paid time or no good reason.

[Soduka]

It comes down to assuming everyone lives the way you do and has the internet you do and all your friends do, real life or otherwise.

The world is a varied place and the people here are a minority, I feel that a single player game needing internet is unreasonable for those reasons.

[StingingVelvet]

It comes down to assuming everyone lives the way you do and has the internet you do and all your friends do, real life or otherwise.

The world is a varied place and the people here are a minority, I feel that a single player game needing internet is unreasonable for those reasons.

Well it is a personal decision. For me constant internet is normal, for others it might not be. Paradigm Shifter if I recall correctly keeps the internet away from his gaming PC entirely, so obviously this is a big deal for him. I don't understand that or agree with it, but people are different and it is his decision to make.

The important thing to remember in my opinion is not to assume everyone agrees with you. That goes for me thinking this is ok if it works, and for others thinking this is never ok under any circumstances.

[Paradigm Shifter]

For me constant internet is normal, for others it might not be. Paradigm Shifter if I recall correctly keeps the internet away from his gaming PC entirely, so obviously this is a big deal for him.

:) It's not offline 100% of the time, but it's only online when downloading new Steam games. Otherwise, it doesn't have a connection. <3 Offline Mode. Given that I don't play online, I see no reason for games to know the internet exists. ;)

...

It's like digital distribution. Many Americans see no issues with it, anyone with an ISP that caps/throttles the internet call it a nightmare. ;)

[DaFox]

[quote]If it doesn't work though, I will hate it, because it will not serve a purpose but to annoy me.

I think thats where you and the rest of us differ though. You seem to be expecting it to succeed, we expect it to fail. After it fails we will all be back on the same page according to this quote.

http://kotaku.com/5485179/rumor-ubisofts-new-drm-scheme-already-torpedoed-by-pirates

Are we all on the same page now StingingVelvet, or are you still going to stick up for the DRM?

[DaFox]

http://kotaku.com/5485359/ubisoft-making-emergency-changes-to-pc-drm LOL

At least they are trying to make it better.

[whismerhill]

thanks for the updates DaFox

[StingingVelvet]

[quote][quote]If it doesn't work though, I will hate it, because it will not serve a purpose but to annoy me.

I think thats where you and the rest of us differ though. You seem to be expecting it to succeed, we expect it to fail. After it fails we will all be back on the same page according to this quote.

http://kotaku.com/5485179/rumor-ubisofts-new-drm-scheme-already-torpedoed-by-pirates

Are we all on the same page now StingingVelvet, or are you still going to stick up for the DRM?

Silent Hunter 5 used a weaker version without cloud saves... let's wait for AC2.

Also, this is rumor.

[g00seberry]

It's not rumour, and it was absolutely inevitable.

How Ubi could have even thought for a second this was a good idea is just insane. :|

[StingingVelvet]

Ubisoft has denied the DRM is cracked... the versions online are missing tons of key features, experience massive glitching and in AC2 you cannot save.

In other words they cracked the server requirement to launch but it is missing all the content, accesses and permissions the server sends. Emulating that stuff was always going to be the hard part in cracking these games. Silent Hunter 5 has very little server-side, which is why it has been claimed as a success for pirates despite some errors and such. AC2 is much more complicated, which is why we have brief and vague screenshots and nothing else.

And for the record I am just seeking honesty here, no pushing one way or the other. Declaring it cracked and useless without the facts is not helping anyone, just being inaccurate. If it is fully cracked in a matter of days then I will be the first one to say so.

[james.wired]

Ubisoft has denied the DRM is cracked... the versions online are missing tons of key features, experience massive glitching and in AC2 you cannot save.

In other words they cracked the server requirement to launch but it is missing all the content, accesses and permissions the server sends. Emulating that stuff was always going to be the hard part in cracking these games. Silent Hunter 5 has very little server-side, which is why it has been claimed as a success for pirates despite some errors and such. AC2 is much more complicated, which is why we have brief and vague screenshots and nothing else.

And for the record I am just seeking honesty here, no pushing one way or the other. Declaring it cracked and useless without the facts is not helping anyone, just being inaccurate. If it is fully cracked in a matter of days then I will be the first one to say so.

Do you have a source page or PR that says this? I would love to show this to some of the people on the net who are going around saying "God Bless Skidrow" and being totally ignorant about the whole thing!

[Paradigm Shifter]

Dammit... I wanted to get Silent Hunter 5 when it is released later on... oh well.

I suppose I should look at it this way: Ubisoft saved me some money. Wasn't that kind of them?

[StingingVelvet]

[quote]Ubisoft has denied the DRM is cracked... the versions online are missing tons of key features, experience massive glitching and in AC2 you cannot save.

In other words they cracked the server requirement to launch but it is missing all the content, accesses and permissions the server sends. Emulating that stuff was always going to be the hard part in cracking these games. Silent Hunter 5 has very little server-side, which is why it has been claimed as a success for pirates despite some errors and such. AC2 is much more complicated, which is why we have brief and vague screenshots and nothing else.

And for the record I am just seeking honesty here, no pushing one way or the other. Declaring it cracked and useless without the facts is not helping anyone, just being inaccurate. If it is fully cracked in a matter of days then I will be the first one to say so.

Do you have a source page or PR that says this? I would love to show this to some of the people on the net who are going around saying "God Bless Skidrow" and being totally ignorant about the whole thing!

Every news site has the Ubisoft quite about the games not being complete... what exactly that means we only have forum posts and such to go on. Some people say they both work perfectly, but is that just what they heard, or a statement made after loading the game, or what? I have read a ton of people saying the games are glitchy, lack content, and in AC2 you cannot save.

Same thing with Mass Effect, people swore there was a working copy right away on torrents and still swear to this today when told SecuROM worked for a bit, but in reality the early copies were barely function and not at all worth playing. It took a week or so for perfect cracked copies to exist.

[james.wired]

[quote][quote]Ubisoft has denied the DRM is cracked... the versions online are missing tons of key features, experience massive glitching and in AC2 you cannot save.

In other words they cracked the server requirement to launch but it is missing all the content, accesses and permissions the server sends. Emulating that stuff was always going to be the hard part in cracking these games. Silent Hunter 5 has very little server-side, which is why it has been claimed as a success for pirates despite some errors and such. AC2 is much more complicated, which is why we have brief and vague screenshots and nothing else.

And for the record I am just seeking honesty here, no pushing one way or the other. Declaring it cracked and useless without the facts is not helping anyone, just being inaccurate. If it is fully cracked in a matter of days then I will be the first one to say so.

Do you have a source page or PR that says this? I would love to show this to some of the people on the net who are going around saying "God Bless Skidrow" and being totally ignorant about the whole thing!

Every news site has the Ubisoft quite about the games not being complete... what exactly that means we only have forum posts and such to go on. Some people say they both work perfectly, but is that just what they heard, or a statement made after loading the game, or what? I have read a ton of people saying the games are glitchy, lack content, and in AC2 you cannot save.

Same thing with Mass Effect, people swore there was a working copy right away on torrents and still swear to this today when told SecuROM worked for a bit, but in reality the early copies were barely function and not at all worth playing. It took a week or so for perfect cracked copies to exist.


I see. Good then...let the people think they got away with it, and they can deal with the frustrations.

[Skid]

http://torrentfreak.com/ubisofts-uber-drm-cracked-within-a-day-100304/

Its relevant.

[g00seberry]

PCG: If a widely available working cracked version of an Ubisoft game is out, will you patch the option of an offline mode for paying customers? Is that even possible?

Ubisoft: It is possible, yes. And it's a valid part of a varied set of options that we would consider.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=237724&site=pcg

[StingingVelvet]

http://torrentfreak.com/ubisofts-uber-drm-cracked-within-a-day-100304/

Its relevant.

Good article I mostly agree with. It's a shame that site is mostly filled unaplogetic thieves, since there are legitimate purposes for torrents (and even game cracks, in my opinion).

I'm hearing more and more evidence that the game is indeed completely cracked... Silent Hunter 5 that is... Assassin's Creed 2 seems to be only partially functional.

[quote]PCG: If a widely available working cracked version of an Ubisoft game is out, will you patch the option of an offline mode for paying customers? Is that even possible?

Ubisoft: It is possible, yes. And it's a valid part of a varied set of options that we would consider.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=237724&site=pcg

Great to hear, that is my main issue with DRM in general, it is not removed after its usefullness is gone (either by patch or by not including it in later releases).

[Skid]

[quote]http://torrentfreak.com/ubisofts-uber-drm-cracked-within-a-day-100304/

Its relevant.

Good article I mostly agree with. It's a shame that site is mostly filled unaplogetic thieves, since there are legitimate purposes for torrents (and even game cracks, in my opinion).

I'm hearing more and more evidence that the game is indeed completely cracked... Silent Hunter 5 that is... Assassin's Creed 2 seems to be only partially functional.

The site itself isn't *no registration*, allot of the comment are, but then comment sections do tend to get filled allot with the most extrema sides of one view or another. A news site should be judged on its articles not the people commenting on it.

[packerfan]

Great to hear, that is my main issue with DRM in general, it is not removed after its usefullness is gone (either by patch or by not including it in later releases).

I agree also, once the DRM has been cracked why bother shoving it down paying customers throats anymore if it is available cracked all over the web. If they can withstand cracking attempts I can understand the logic of not removing DRM but once it is cracked why make paying customers deal with activation limits and crap.

[DaFox]

[quote]Great to hear, that is my main issue with DRM in general, it is not removed after its usefullness is gone (either by patch or by not including it in later releases).

I agree also, once the DRM has been cracked why bother shoving it down paying customers throats anymore if it is available cracked all over the web. If they can withstand cracking attempts I can understand the logic of not removing DRM but once it is cracked why make paying customers deal with activation limits and crap.

A lot of DRM is simply to combat casual piracy, but that is pointless aside from the basics in my opinion (I.E. CD in the drive) Consumers are smart enough to get the crack now days if they are wanting to do that.