Monitors that will and won't run at 5040x1050 @ 57hz

stu517 · Post by **stu517** » 21 Dec 2008, 16:53

samsung 2693hm work fine with the new GXM release. yeah!!

Grek1956 · Post by **Grek1956** » 22 Dec 2008, 08:52

Hi,

i'm new here, and I have the same problem with my 3 Samsung 2443B: 1680x1050 doesn't work. But it's even worse. The monitors will shut down after some seconds and nothing( waiting, pressing menue) helps. But I've found something strange; when I press Info on the OSD it shows:

1680 X 1050 @ 48Hz and not 57Hz :shock:

Can anybody take a look which frequency Triplehead2Go-Digital really generates?

regards

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 22 Dec 2008, 14:14

I suppose if a monitor can't do 57 Hz, you shouldn't rely too much on what its OSD says when you try to use that refresh rate...

Grek1956 · Post by **Grek1956** » 23 Dec 2008, 09:33

Hi,

I've sent an email to Matrox and told them about our problem and I've received an interesting answer:

Hi Klaus,
It seems as though the problem actually lies within the Nvidia drivers and Vista and not the monitors.

Until Nvidia releases new Vista drivers for your card you will not be able to use it with our unit.

Best Regards,

Emanuele

Technical Support Representative
Technical Support Hotline: (514) 685-0270
Hours of Operation: Monday to Friday from 9AM to 5PM EST

Maybe we should all send mails to Nvidia :?:

1078f3ba · Post by **1078f3ba** » 28 Dec 2008, 23:56

WOW. Just, WOW. :(

Seems that they could've elaborated a bit more. You using 64 bit Vista or what?

svr · Post by **svr** » 29 Dec 2008, 16:29

KNOWN WORKING
viewsonic vx2262wm - 1680x1050@57hz

vincegun · Post by **vincegun** » 29 Dec 2008, 23:23

I just got my TH2G today. What a treat. After mucking around a bit and being confuzzled by a few things, I can say I absolutely love it. It even came with the latest firmware installed. Score 1 for Matrox/Newegg.

Unfortunately, I can't run at a full 5040x1050@57. I run 2 Westinghouse LCM-22W2's and 1 Westinghouse LCM-22W3. The 22W3 is the center monitor. The highest rez I can get to is 4320x900 as per the windows display properties slider.

When I start any games that haven't been configured, they load up on the left monitor, but after changing the game's rez to match the desktop rez, it switches to use the full 3 screens.

This is on Vista64 Ultimate with a 8800GTX.

Hope that helps anyone that has their eye on these particular Westinghouse models. I got them cheap at seperate times, but I plan to sell them and get 3 new lcd's that can support the 5040 rez..... once I get more hours at work, or get a new job that'll actually give me hours.

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 30 Dec 2008, 00:01

vincegun, hold your horses ! You are not really telling us whether each monitor model can do 1680x1050@57Hz or not. :? Can you disconnect the TH2G and test this custom res on each one ?

Once you've done that, you can try creating the custom res of 5040x1050@57Hz. Getting it to work under Vista64 may require some effort, as seen in the other threads around - but that doesn't mean your panels are to blame !

vincegun · Post by **vincegun** » 30 Dec 2008, 01:49

Actually, when I used them before I got the box all I could find was the option to use 60 or 59 via the monitor's display properties. If I could force something other than that, it's beyond me.

Creating a custom rez isn't something I've done before and you'll have to forgive me for not dredging through every top thread in every forum section. Could you link me to any pages detailing how to create a custom resolution? I'd love to help you all out with finding any info I could have missed and in effect, help myself as well.

I don't have any horses to hold, either.

I lose...... :cry:

P-Storm · Post by **P-Storm** » 30 Dec 2008, 03:09

Oke, you have a 9800GTX right? Then you have a NVIDIA card? This is an old article about custom resolutions, with the old panel. If you can find this for the new one, then you can set it 1680x1050@57Hz If the panel works with that resolution and Hz, then there is somewhere else the problem. The post you wanna read are the sticky in the Surround Section :wink:

vincegun · Post by **vincegun** » 30 Dec 2008, 03:17

8800gtx, actually. But yes, an Nvidia card.

I'll stumble around the control panel to see what I can find. Give me a day or two. Or three. First time with this and all.....

ricknau · Post by **ricknau** » 30 Dec 2008, 04:29

This may be old news but here it is anyway...

I have 3 Acer V223W monitors that run fine with the TH2G. I think the "V" stands for "value", i.e., cheap. I guess I got lucky. I didn't research rates before buying. These are very similar (maybe identical electrically) to the other Acer 223's.

With all 3 running thru the TH2G Digital, Windows reports 57hz without setting up any customs settings. When I use each monitor's built-in info screen they too report 57hz.

vincegun · Post by **vincegun** » 30 Dec 2008, 04:47

Well, I solved it.

I actually ended up doing some weird things to my actual hardware.

-I tried creating a custom 5040 rez, no go.
-While the lcd's said "out of range," I tried disconnecting them from the TH2G, connecting them to the system and setting the resolution. Oddly enough, upon connecting individually to the system they could suddenly do 1920x1080. They're not rated for that. I was even able to make a custom 1680x1050@57. I did this for each of the lcd's, but upon reconnecting them to the TH2G, things went back to not working.
-I tried uninstalling the GXM, reinstalling Nvidia's 180.49, reinstalling the GXM and setting a resolution, but no go.

As per a random post stated, I downloaded one of the 175 series, the 175.19, the latest of the two 175's that were released. I installed that, THEN installed the GXM and suddenly I have 1680x1050@57!

Who knew?

Thank you guys, for having this webpage up. That random comment of trying the 175's saved the day. Errr.... night.

Now I just have to wait for my sister's present to come from newegg and it'll be smooth sailing for a while.

vincegun · Post by **vincegun** » 30 Dec 2008, 04:48

Oh, pictures to come soon. I should've put that in there. Heh.....

P-Storm · Post by **P-Storm** » 30 Dec 2008, 14:21

Nice Vincegun that you found your problem. As in the other sticky stated:

No native 5040 these drivers: (177.92 to 180.43)

vincegun · Post by **vincegun** » 30 Dec 2008, 19:02

Roger that. Heh, funny. Anyway, I guess you can add the Westinghouse LCM-22W2 and W3 to the list of lcd's that work at 5040 under triplehead mode.

kondor999 · Post by **kondor999** » 04 Jan 2009, 04:51

GE 19" L1916HW work fine at 57hz and are very cheap - but look great to me.

You can get these at Best Buy for $125, which gives you a really inexpensive 5040x1050 setup.

Native res is 1680x1050. I found it difficult to find anything larger that still had the 1680x1050 native AND worked at 57hz.

monitorman · Post by **monitorman** » 04 Jan 2009, 18:20

Hi guys. I'm a widescreener in the making, and have just about completed research on monitor compatibility.

I found this post very helpful to determine which monitor might work ahead of time:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/9732

I'll be going with 3x DELL 2208WFP monitors. A friend has one, and used the above method to test 57hz.

Also, on an aside, I tested this method on an BENQ FP241W and it works flawlessly, although, 1680 x 1050 not being its native resolution, it was a bit blurry.

See you online.

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 04 Jan 2009, 21:43

New year's resolutions time... I've challenged myself to update the list.
If only I knew what the indigenous code is for those clean little black dots the original list has and I can't even put an english name on !! :x (Edit : thanks, that was... eZ'.)

[list]Problem models:
[*]Acer AL2216W[/*:m]
[*]Acer P241wb ... (possibly other Acer models, waiting on further testing)[/*:m]
[*]Acer x193w+[/*:m]
[*]AG Neovo H-W22 (user couldn't do 5040, though it's not entirely clear that a single one won't display 1680@57)[/*:m]
[*]Asus VW223T[/*:m]
[*]Asus VW222U[/*:m]
[*]BenQ G2400WD[/*:m]
[*]Dell 2007WFP[/*:m]
[*]Iiyama E2207WS[/*:m]
[*]Samsung 2233BW (works at 1680x1050@57 Hz for 30 secs, then an OSD message pops up and the screen turns black, no way to circumvent it)[/*:m]
[*]Samsung T220 (osd warning screen pops up and keeps popping up every few minutes)[/*:m][/list:u]

[list]Known working:
[*]Acer P223W[/*:m]
[*]Acer V223W :?: (OSD reports 1680x1024 at 57 Hz, however games in 5040x1050 looks alright and screenshots are the right size)[/*:m]
[*]Asus VK222H[/*:m]
[*]Asus VW198T[/*:m]
[*]BenQ FP241W [/*:m]
[*]BenQ G2200W[/*:m]
[*]Chimei CMV221D[/*:m]
[*]Dell 2001 FP[/*:m]
[*]Dell 2009W[/*:m]
[*]Dell 2208WFP [/*:m]
[*]Dell 2405 FPW[/*:m]
[*]Dell 2407[/*:m]
[*]Dell 2408[/*:m]
[*]Dell E228WFP[/*:m]
[*]DGM L-2249WD[/*:m]
[*]GE L1916HW[/*:m]
[*]HP 2207[/*:m]
[*]LG L227wtg[/*:m]
[*]NEC MultiSync 20WGX2 [/*:m]
[*]Samsung 2032MW (whistles at 57Hz?)[/*:m]
[*]Samsung 2043BWX[/*:m]
[*]Samsung 2253LW (complains of non-optimal settings @57Hz, requiring you to press the menu button or wait 60secs to clear the warning)[/*:m]
[*]Samsung 226BW Type A (complains of non-optimal settings @57Hz, requiring you to press the menu button or wait 60secs to clear the warning) [/*:m]
[*]Samsung 226BW Type C modelcode LS22MEWSFV/EDC (no annoying OSD message!)[/*:m]
[*]Samsung 226 cw (complains of non-optimal settings @57Hz, requiring you to press the menu button or wait 60secs to clear the warning)[/*:m]
[*]Samsung 2443BW[/*:m]
[*]Samsung 2693HM[/*:m]
[*]Samsung Syncmaster 225BW[/*:m]
[*]Soyo DYLM24E6[/*:m]
[*]ViewEra V202D a.k.a. V202D-B[/*:m]
[*]ViewSonic VA2226w[/*:m]
[*]Viewsonic VX1940w[/*:m]
[*]Viewsonic vx2025wm[/*:m]
[*]Viewsonic VX2235wm[/*:m]
[*]Viewsonic VX2240w[/*:m]
[*]Viewsonic VX2262wm[/*:m]
[*]Westinghouse LCM-22W2[/*:m]
[*]Westinghouse LCM-22W3[/*:m]
[*]Zalman Trimon 22" ZM-M220W[/*:m][/list:u]

ricknau · Post by **ricknau** » 05 Jan 2009, 00:21

This may be old news but here it is anyway...

I have 3 Acer V223W monitors that run fine with the TH2G. I think the "V" stands for "value", i.e., cheap. I guess I got lucky. I didn't research rates before buying. These are very similar (maybe identical electrically) to the other Acer 223's.

With all 3 running thru the TH2G Digital, Windows reports 57hz without setting up any customs settings. When I use each monitor's built-in info screen they too report 57hz.

Sorry scavvenjahh and all but I need amend this post:

My monitors do report 57hz when I have the TH2G set for 5040x1050.

But... even though the TH2G (and Windows) is set at 5040x1050 each monitor reports only 1680x 1024 at 57hz as its input. For some reason they are not receiving 1050 from the TH2G for the vertical scan count.

??? I'm not sure why this is. I thought it might be because my cards (2 8800GTs in SLI) can't put out more than 4,096,000 pixels max. But even 5040x1024 overruns that limit so I'm stumped. I did some searching and can't find a card that can do more than 4,096,000 pixels. Am I off in my thinking? I did some forums searches but haven't seen any discussions of this issue. Can someone educate me or point me to any treads that address this. Maybe I should start a new thread and ask for help.

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