Calling all 30" panel owners (Updated 6/16)

Baka^Ni · Post by **Baka^Ni** » 13 Jan 2007, 21:04

Medival 2 Total War works (native)
Defcon works (native)
Hitman Bloodmoney works (native)
and Flight Simulator X works (runs terribly :P)

lamovea · Post by **lamovea** » 22 Jan 2007, 12:30

Hi folks,

i also run a Dell 3007WFP since Mar 06. This month i replaced my 7900GTX with a 8800GTX clocked @ 650/1900 Mhz. Finally i can play F.E.A.R. now in native res :D

The Games:

- Comand & Conquer Generals ZH - works great (ini), max Quality, recommend the far distance patch
- GT Legends (native) works great, max quality settings, FOV auto
- GTR2 (native) works great, max quality settings, FOV auto
- Race (native) works great, max quality settings, FOV auto
- Richard Burns Rally works great, max quality settings
- Defcon (native) works great
- Dark Messiah of Might and Magic (native) works great, high quality
- Never Winter Nights 2 (native) works great with HQ
- Homeworld 2 also works great

i only have problems setting doom3 and quake4 to 2560

Post by **skipclarke** » 22 Jan 2007, 16:45

I've updated these on the MGL. A lot of these could use Detailed Reports...

magikal2 · Post by **magikal2** » 30 Jan 2007, 09:33

i plan to order a 30 inch lcd within a month probably the LP3065 since you cant buy the newer version of dell's yet without buying a whole computer.
if anyone could answer a question for me tho it would help alot.
many sites show 2 separate versions of the LP3065, one is a smart buy version the other is not. i dont see any difference between the two. smart buy version is about 1600 dollars and the non smart buy version is 1800 or so. anyone know what the difference is?

i plan on running world of warcraft on it alot, my current vid card is an ati x1900 xtx i hope it will handle wow at the high resolution, i plan to upgrade the vid card also but not until i see what ati/amd's new card is like which is supposedly coming out in march.
thanks for any responces

magikal2 · Post by **magikal2** » 01 Feb 2007, 22:48

i ordered the lp3065 today and hope to have it next week sometime

MaulSidious · Post by **MaulSidious** » 09 Mar 2007, 21:41

Got my dell 3007wfp-hc yesterday and must say i love it.

magikal2 · Post by **magikal2** » 16 Mar 2007, 21:57

i got the lp3065 and it is incredible. but now i need to upgrade my video card and am waiting for the amd r 600 to release then will decide between r600 or nvidia's current best.
the 2 games ive ran so far worked beautifully, world of warcraft and supreme commander, note ive only tried supreme commander single player so far.

the amount of increased screenspace over a 20" lcd is amazing. i mean i knew it would be big but seeing it is almost beyond words. quality is excellent also no flaws or dead/stuck pixels that i can see.
the only thing i dont like is the inability to display the bios bootup screen info (and you cant enter bios and do anything either as you cant see it) and the rest of the bootup process until windows loads.
are all the 30" lcds like this? any way around it?

MaulSidious · Post by **MaulSidious** » 17 Mar 2007, 04:47

Hmm thats strange your obviously using dvi so it should display the initial bios screens and boot screen ok. at least mine does.

And aye the screen size from 20" is crazy i wasnt expecting an extra 10" to be quite so so HUGE :)

everygame ive tried half life 2
unreal 2004
eve
fear
supremecommander
titan quest
and oblivion all run fine at 2560x1600 and look amazing.

Best purchase ive made and glad i got it when i did as they had knocked the price down for 3 weeks when i bought it from Ã‚Â£1260 to Ã‚Â£950.

not found one dead or stuck pixel and not seen any of the backlight bleed or patchiness some people have mentioned seeing from the old 3007.

magikal2 · Post by **magikal2** » 19 Mar 2007, 08:27

you are using an lp3065 lcd and CAN see the bios/bootup info and screens?.
please respond because if you have the same monitor then mine should also display it, also which video card brand do you use, amd/ati or nvidia? mines ati. if anyone out there can see the bios and bootup info and screens on an lp3065 please say so, so i can gather info on what may be causing it, i may try connecting it to the other dvi port and or move my vid card to the other pcie slot, also if people can see that info on nvidia and not ati/amd video cards then that makes my soon to be purchased next video card choice easier.

sorry MaulSidious i just scrolled up and saw you had an 3007 not the same lcd as me. but im still hoping for responces in case mine should be able to display said inbfo also?

MaulSidious · Post by **MaulSidious** » 19 Mar 2007, 16:48

Aye yeah its 3007 but as far as i understand it doesnt make sense you cant see the bios screens, all the lcd's i have used have all been able to show the bios/boot info screens, would make setting up a pc you buy from a shop with only a lcd screen a bit difficult if you couldnt. I have a radeon x1900xt master card.

If you leave your monitor on standby and then start your pc when does your monitor wake up? during boot or not till windows loads? if its not waking up till windows loads i would say its your graphics card causing the problem or the dvi cable.

magikal2 · Post by **magikal2** » 19 Mar 2007, 20:52

well i just got a msg from Keijo with the same panel as mine, and i guess its the ati brand as it shows all the info with all nvidia cards that person tryed but not with the ati, so i guess now theres no point in holding out for an ati r600 series, but ive waited this long i'll probably wait for the refresh of the 8800 that is supposed to come out when the r600 does.

MaulSidious: it stays in standby mode? yellow light? until windows loads then it displays and works just fine, but as it is now there is noway i could reinstall windows without using a different monitor

MaulSidious · Post by **MaulSidious** » 20 Mar 2007, 05:57

if its staying in standby until windows loads it sounds like it could be the card the dvi-out on the card isnt kicking in until the drivers initialise it or something. oh quick edit do you have a vga out on the card as well? cause mine only has dvi maybe yours runs of the vga until the drivers load and tell it to use the dvi.

but aye id wait for the 8800refresh personally the r600 has been delayed so much now its either gonna be fecking awesome but about the same as a 8800 refresh or stink like a dead pony.

magikal2 · Post by **magikal2** » 26 Mar 2007, 20:29

well this last weekend i got to test it with a cousins nvidia 7800 video card and yes it did display the bios info and the bootup screens prior to windows loading.
so.. any thoughts on whether its the ati brand video cards or just the fact that i have ati's enemies chipset, (nforce)

i will try and test it with more combinations as i can

i wanted to test it on his ps3 also but didnt have an hdmi/dvi adaptor

MaulSidious · Post by **MaulSidious** » 27 Mar 2007, 11:13

Well its not the ati 'brand' cause i have ati and it displays bios and boot screens fine like i said might be a dodgy card might be cause you got a vga port on your card too, my card only has dvi.

gogo · Post by **gogo** » 30 Mar 2007, 09:38

All right,

I have the Dell 30", too. Any game runs smoothly in 2560x1600. For the first time ever I had to revert to a lower resolution, however, whilst playing Stalker (my specs are below). Astonishingly I got particular low frame rates on my way to the Agroprom facility in this underground tunnel network (as low as 18 frames). All settings are on max (except shadows) complete with dynamic lighting. Lowering the resolution in this particular place hardly increased the framerate, so it must either be CPU-related or some sort of a driver issue. I`m waiting for a new driver and a 2nd GTX...;-)

Oblivion looks particularly spectacular after I installed a bunch of rather nifty addon-texture packs (http://devnull.devakm.googlepages.com/totoworld). Even a 8800GTX is pushed to its max (memory-wise) with these new textures which REALLY do look great!

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GINTER · Post by **GINTER** » 31 Mar 2007, 19:41

Checking in..

Just got my Cold Cathode 30 incher. WOW! I was going to order the 27" (as my friend got one, and I was amazed by, not only the high output of the display, but also the brushed alum. finish and piano-black base), but I opted for the 30 behemoth. Glad I went all thirty inches. Lotsa screen realestate. Soon I'll upgrade my two 24's to 30 as well. I just wish there was multi-monitor support, not just WS support. In the not-too-distant-future I guess..

magikal2 · Post by **magikal2** » 20 Apr 2007, 11:36

ok ive done some more testing now, tried 2 different ati radeon cards x1600 and x1900xtx, neither showed the bootup screens or bios etc, black screen until windows loads, which would make trouble shooting/installing windows hard.
tried 2 nvidia cards 7800 and 8800 and both showed the bootup screens. so i bought an 8800 and it works great. ati just lost my business forever unless/until i get a different lcd sometime.
this is with an hp lp3065 lcd panel. which another person pm'ed me with pretty much same results as mine, although for some reason the dell 30" seems ok with ati brand cards.
anyway i hope this info helps someone avoid the same problems

Jupix · Post by **Jupix** » 25 Apr 2007, 10:45

CNC3 works fine on 30", can be added to the list.

YouTube · Post by **ViciousXUSMC** » 25 Apr 2007, 11:23

Question for you guys. is the native res of 2560x1600 noticibly better than a scaled 1920x1200? I mean with so many pixels already there is there really any strong visual upgrade with 2560x1600?? Aside from desktop realistate and stuff like that, I mean in games.

I cant imagine it would much myself since I can scale lower res's to 1920x1080 on a 37" and it looks about the same and the native of 1920x1080 looks wonderfull.

I have no way to judge tho for myself.

There is no way I could power that with my current rig tho, It was struggling just abit on Stalker with max settings with 1920x1080 so I had to bring it down to like 1200x700ish and just aspect scale it back up. Honestly it looks the same to me, but runs much smoother.

Oh and one comment, sombody said that at that max res (2560x1600) to keep in mind you need a very strong cpu to run it. I just wanted to notate that the more graphicly chalenged you make things the less it depends on the cpu and the more it depends on the video card. You have to find exactly where that bottleneck occures on your system to judge if you need more cpu power or not.

Easy way to tell: If you can add more "eye candy" and your FPS stays the same your being held back by the cpu.

If you can downclock you cpu and your fps stays the same with no visual adjustments your videocard is at its limits.

I think I'll write us a bottleneck faq/guide somtime this week since everybody is getting these ultra rigs now it may be usfull information.

Jupix · Post by **Jupix** » 25 Apr 2007, 12:14

Scaling often blurs the image. Using the native resolution gives a much sharper image, and with such a small pixel pitch, you don't need antialias, which you most certainly will do with scaled lower resolutions.

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