Oblivion Elder Scrolls; First Impressions

Post by **ctrlsteef** » 26 Mar 2006, 19:24

Indeed, you need to BUY this game. It's a good game so go shopping like......now.
About the framerates on a X1900XT.
I have a permanent 50fps with everything maxed out.

Post by **Gilly** » 26 Mar 2006, 21:40

There's an aritcle on Gamespot that details a comparison between the 7900GTX in SLi and the X1900XTX in Crossfire. Generally, the 7900 card won out, except in 2 tests. In one 3dmark06 text, the 7900GTX cards wouldn't run HDR & AA, but the X1900XTX cards would.

Maybe you need 2 of these cards to enable both...?

nope, its down to the game engine, with the Crytek engine far cry uses a patch is gonna be released to allow both HDR and AA at the same time. I have no doubts that Oblivion will be patched too in the fullness of time. Its a game engine, not hardware limitation

Post by **Gilly** » 26 Mar 2006, 21:41

please help i downloaded oblivion , and i like it a lot so far the only thing is i have a 2405 so , im playing it at 1680 , but i only have a medium rig and the framerate at this res is very low on my sys , (x850pe, amd 3500, 2 gig of ram) right now i can only afford one upgrade which should it be ? an x1900xtx card or a new processor for oblivion ? what frame rate are you guys getting on a x1900xtx at 1680x1050 all help aprecciated. thanx guys .

ill let you know tommorow :)

FramerateUK · Post by **FramerateUK** » 26 Mar 2006, 23:53

Indeed, you need to BUY this game. It's a good game so go shopping like......now.
About the framerates on a X1900XT.
I have a permanent 50fps with everything maxed out.

Even in the heavy forest areas? Have you turned any settings like grass off?

Post by **ctrlsteef** » 27 Mar 2006, 08:09

Yes, with everything on (including grass) it runs like a dream.
The minimum fps i had was 32 or something.
I believe that was in a forrest.
But if i'm in a city or on plains i get constant 50.

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 27 Mar 2006, 08:30

Hey ctrlsteef ... I think you are using HDR not AA ...
Have you tried AA ? ... does it give you better or worse performance ?

I dumped the HDR ... IHMO it looks way better for having the AA ... and I don't think I would/could play it if I couldn't have the AA ...
I so hate jaggies :twisted: ... :lol:

Post by **ctrlsteef** » 27 Mar 2006, 08:32

Yep, that is true. I have HDR on instead of AA. I guess when i use 6x AA instead of HDR the framerate does drop.
I'll try that tonight to see what happens.

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 27 Mar 2006, 08:36

At 1920x1200 ... you should only need 2xAA to get rid of the jaggies ... :D

Post by **ctrlsteef** » 27 Mar 2006, 08:39

Also at 1680 x 1050? I never used AA before, it wouldn't run at all on the gpu's i previously owned. :lol:

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 27 Mar 2006, 08:45

Is that your native res ?
If so ... 2xAA should be fine ... but give 4xAA a try too.

I think you wiil prefer it with AA ... 8)
Compare my screenshot in the "Insiders" WSGF SotD thread with yours.

Post by **ctrlsteef** » 27 Mar 2006, 08:49

Yep, that's my native. Benq FP202W 20" remember. :wink:
I'll take a look at your screenies.

Post by **ctrlsteef** » 27 Mar 2006, 08:52

Looks indeed better without the jaggies.
I really hope they make a patch soon to enable both.
I really like the hdr effect when you are outside and the sun shines.

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 27 Mar 2006, 08:52

I really hope they make a patch soon to enable both.

... me too ...

I just uploaded a couple more for you to look at ... including an outside shot ... in the "Insiders" WSGF SotD thread ... :wink:

Post by **ctrlsteef** » 27 Mar 2006, 08:56

It's actually quiet weird. Outside the screenies WITHOUT HDR aren't that different from my screenshots WITH HDR.
I guess i can better turn it off and give AA a try then. :D

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 27 Mar 2006, 08:58

You got it ... :lol: ... don't forget to turn on the bloom though.

Post by **ctrlsteef** » 27 Mar 2006, 09:08

*smacks himself* Offcourse, i forgot about that effect. That's why it almost looks the same. :lol:

Ice[DDZ] · Post by **Ice[DDZ]** » 27 Mar 2006, 14:42

I gotta say the game is simply amazing as well. I haven't been into an RPG like this since Final Fantasy 7 back in the day. After that was FF10, but that wasn't as good. Oblivion takes the cake for being the best RPG on PC hands down. But I have yet to even start the story of the game (I've been doing other things... Many other things... 26 hours in and I haven't done any main story :D), so until I see the game's story I cannot say it's the best RPG ever.

But in any case, I wanted to ask and this seemed like the best topic to do it in.
I've got (Comp specs in sig) and I can run the game at 1280x720 with max everything but HDR/AA and I get 40-200fps indoors depending on the size and amount of NPCs. And 12-30fps outdoors with grass OFF (with it on I never get more than like 20fps, and I can't stand that, plus you can't see your arrows in the ground with grass on ;)).

Now my friend has a 4800 2x, with 4gigs of 3200 ram, dual 7800GTX KO's from eVGA and a 10,000RPM harddrive. He's playing it on one of my 2405's at 1900x1200 with HDR and all max settings.
He gets 60-200fps indoors, and 15-30fps outdoors... Is that even close to what it should be? If anybody else has a 4800 x2 and SLI, please tell me you get more FPS than that at 1900x1200 (Or anything close). Cause it honestly doesn't seem right. Is Oblivion that demanding???

FramerateUK · Post by **FramerateUK** » 27 Mar 2006, 19:08

For anyone having problems with low framerates and lots of stuttering in the woods... try turning up the tree and distance (i know, sounds odd :)). Seems to access the hard drive less, and therefore the game runs a neck of a lot smoother for me. Of course you need a graphics card that can cope with it ;)

Post by **BongoTrumman** » 27 Mar 2006, 20:40

For anyone having problems with low framerates and lots of stuttering in the woods... try turning up the tree and distance (i know, sounds odd :)). Seems to access the hard drive less, and therefore the game runs a neck of a lot smoother for me. Of course you need a graphics card that can cope with it ;)

Defragging your hd could help with the stuttering problem outside. Since it loads the world "on the fly" it is important that the location of the files are optimized to decrease read times.

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 27 Mar 2006, 20:43

For anyone having problems with low framerates and lots of stuttering in the woods... try turning up the tree and distance

Do you mean over and above the in game settings ?
If so ... how ?

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