Q&A to ATI's Dave Baumann and SunSp*t

[Tamlin]

Lol you aren't asking for much... and "issues" sort of implies something is broken. I think we have delivered everything we said we would,so far, and we are working on many of the other things y'all have asked for. And some things you aren't aware of.

This is true. Nothing is broken and Eyefinity has been delivered as advertised. Crossfire support and bezel management are to be considered improvements to Eyefinity, not fixes.

PLP is something I would very much want implemented, but this doesn't exist even in current hardware options like TH2G, which has been on the market for years. Only with softTH is this possible. I think we need patience with this one.

Edit: I forgot my question:
Any ETA from Samsung about the thin bezel/eyefinity monitors?

[suiken_2mieu]

[quote]I've been reading the questions and really it all comes down to one thing, we all want non-standard resolutions supported in and out of eyefinity, and an ETA on when these issues will be fixed.

Also including mixed resolutions, Crossfire+Eyefinity, and Bezel Management.

Lol you aren't asking for much... and "issues" sort of implies something is broken. I think we have delivered everything we said we would,so far, and we are working on many of the other things y'all have asked for. And some things you aren't aware of.

If $1000 would take care of PLP L88tbastard, I'da already paid for it out of my pocket! koawinter has it right, EF is still a baby. The universe of the desirable is much bigger than the reality of resource and time.

I know there are no answer in this, just wanted to let you all know I am still watching and reading.
Didn't mean to sound like that, sorry, I meant an ETA on the Implementation of these Features. Yes it's a lot to ask for, but these things would make a "perfect" solution.

[Anprionsa]

Yeah, I would be very interested to know when things would come, but I think I am more interested to know what things are being planned for eyefinity and how this "baby" is going to grow are we going to see some walking or even running in the next year??

[Dave Baumann]

Didn't mean to sound like that, sorry, I meant an ETA on the Implementation of these Features. Yes it's a lot to ask for, but these things would make a "perfect" solution.

Sometimes we don't say anything because we don't want to spoil the surprise, sometimes we don't say anything because there is nothing ot say! :P

[Dave Baumann]

Any ETA from Samsung about the thin bezel/eyefinity monitors?

Unfortunatly we're not in a position to pre-announce our partners products.

[Dave Baumann]

I raised the issue some weeks back and Dave Baumann said he was going to speak to the 4800 series guys to find out what the story is (i.e. how they enabled support...)

Dave, did you manage to get any further with this problem?

Honestly, I ended up more confused by the response than I did prior to asking! There seemed to be some questions over how it even got enabled for RV770 (though I think the indication that there may have been a Matrox update?). The take out, though, was that its not a trivial matter to support it, unfortunatly.

[l88bastard]

[quote]I've been reading the questions and really it all comes down to one thing, we all want non-standard resolutions supported in and out of eyefinity, and an ETA on when these issues will be fixed.

Also including mixed resolutions, Crossfire+Eyefinity, and Bezel Management.

Lol you aren't asking for much... and "issues" sort of implies something is broken. I think we have delivered everything we said we would,so far, and we are working on many of the other things y'all have asked for. And some things you aren't aware of.

If $1000 would take care of PLP L88tbastard, I'da already paid for it out of my pocket! koawinter has it right, EF is still a baby. The universe of the desirable is much bigger than the reality of resource and time.

I know there are no answer in this, just wanted to let you all know I am still watching and reading.

Ha I figured as much, no worries though, I temporarily solved my PLP problem and the cost was less than $1,000. I bought another dell 20.1 and I must say triple screening with eyefinity is fantastic!

Never thought I would say this, but it looks like my 30" 2560x1600 is going up on ebay soon!

[ychng]

For those who are interested, I found my own solution to the problem I had posted 1 page ago regarding getting the awesome T221-DG5 ultra-high resolution monitor to work at 3840x2400@48Hz in Win7 using Eyefinity.

I posted my solution in the main Eyefinity section under my other post - in the interest of not cluttering up this section, just look there.

Thanks again and thank you Dave and Sunsp*t! This is so awesome - I never thought I would see the day when my beloved T221-DG5s would run the way they should on a modern OS again! Now I have 2 x 9.2MP desktops fully Aero accelerated, etc etc!!!!

Yeang

[SunSp*t]

For those who are interested, I found my own solution to the problem I had posted 1 page ago regarding getting the awesome T221-DG5 ultra-high resolution monitor to work at 3840x2400@48Hz in Win7 using Eyefinity.

I posted my solution in the main Eyefinity section under my other post - in the interest of not cluttering up this section, just look there.

Thanks again and thank you Dave and Sunsp*t! This is so awesome - I never thought I would see the day when my beloved T221-DG5s would run the way they should on a modern OS again! Now I have 2 x 9.2MP desktops fully Aero accelerated, etc etc!!!!

Yeang

You have the T221s working? Wow! I'm impressed. Now I have to find & read your post! And three cheers to you for pushing the boundaries out further!

[doublejj0305]

Just want to say thanks for all the work you are doing. I have been out of PC gaming for about 5 years but with the eyefinity technology I am back!!! So here is my question:

When the eyefinity 6 version card comes out will I be able to game on 3x1 and use my desktop on the remaining screens? I plan on getting 6 screens but I'm guessing I will only use a 3x2 with only some games with the majority using 3x1 FPS. It would be useful for managing servers etc while being able to game at the same time.

I have tested this out using my existing 3x1 setup as a 2x1 with an extended desktop on the remaining monitor but the remaining monitor turns black (basically turning off).

this is a big deciding factor for getting the 6 output card or sticking with just three monitors. Again I appreciate what you are doing on these forums!!!

J.J.

[suiken_2mieu]

Just want to say thanks for all the work you are doing. I have been out of PC gaming for about 5 years but with the eyefinity technology I am back!!! So here is my question:

When the eyefinity 6 version card comes out will I be able to game on 3x1 and use my desktop on the remaining screens? I plan on getting 6 screens but I'm guessing I will only use a 3x2 with only some games with the majority using 3x1 FPS. It would be useful for managing servers etc while being able to game at the same time.

I have tested this out using my existing 3x1 setup as a 2x1 with an extended desktop on the remaining monitor but the remaining monitor turns black (basically turning off).

this is a big deciding factor for getting the 6 output card or sticking with just three monitors. Again I appreciate what you are doing on these forums!!!

J.J.

just a question, when you used 2 for the game and trying to use the 3rd as another screen, is all 3 still connected to the TH2go (or similar device). Because that's exactly what would happen. Try connecting the 3rd monitor to the extra port on your card. You'll be pleasantly surprised that the 3rd monitor stays on.

[doublejj0305]

[quote]Just want to say thanks for all the work you are doing. I have been out of PC gaming for about 5 years but with the eyefinity technology I am back!!! So here is my question:

When the eyefinity 6 version card comes out will I be able to game on 3x1 and use my desktop on the remaining screens? I plan on getting 6 screens but I'm guessing I will only use a 3x2 with only some games with the majority using 3x1 FPS. It would be useful for managing servers etc while being able to game at the same time.

I have tested this out using my existing 3x1 setup as a 2x1 with an extended desktop on the remaining monitor but the remaining monitor turns black (basically turning off).

this is a big deciding factor for getting the 6 output card or sticking with just three monitors. Again I appreciate what you are doing on these forums!!!

J.J.

just a question, when you used 2 for the game and trying to use the 3rd as another screen, is all 3 still connected to the TH2go (or similar device). Because that's exactly what would happen. Try connecting the 3rd monitor to the extra port on your card. You'll be pleasantly surprised that the 3rd monitor stays on.


Not even sure what TH2go is... I'm just using the 2 DVI ports and Display port from the 5870

[SunSp*t]

When the eyefinity 6 version card comes out will I be able to game on 3x1 and use my desktop on the remaining screens?

Well... I'd like to answer that question, but doing so would be too revealing about what we are doing... and we do have a competitor whom we absolutely need to keep guessing. Like DaveB, I am going to keep my lips zipped about The Six (it's a cylon card lol) and its capabilities. :D

[suiken_2mieu]

[quote]
just a question, when you used 2 for the game and trying to use the 3rd as another screen, is all 3 still connected to the TH2go (or similar device). Because that's exactly what would happen. Try connecting the 3rd monitor to the extra port on your card. You'll be pleasantly surprised that the 3rd monitor stays on.

Not even sure what TH2go is... I'm just using the 2 DVI ports and Display port from the 5870
Ah sorry, I thought you were using different Hardware, I don't have a 5xxx series card yet to test how to do this, but If you set up 1 monitor extended and the other 2 in eyefinity, it should (theoretically) work. Try that if you hadn't.

[doublejj0305]

[quote]When the eyefinity 6 version card comes out will I be able to game on 3x1 and use my desktop on the remaining screens?

Well... I'd like to answer that question, but doing so would be too revealing about what we are doing... and we do have a competitor whom we absolutely need to keep guessing. Like DaveB, I am going to keep my lips zipped about The Six (it's a cylon card lol) and its capabilities. :D

Man thats just wrong :) lol. I assume this will be answered when the eyefinity card comes out then? I suppose I can wait on purchasing the other screens till I know for sure. I appreciate the reply none the less!!!

[spammeister]

Well... I'd like to answer that question, but doing so would be too revealing about what we are doing... and we do have a competitor whom we absolutely need to keep guessing.

I'm sure if people with 3 monitors can make a grouping of 2 monitors and have the 3rd by itself (I'm just assuming they can), then all sorts of crazy configs can be accomplished with 6 (let alone 24). I'm all tingly about the 16th(9.12!).
http://hothardware.com/image_popup.aspx?image=big_amd-ati-eyefinity-3.jpg&articleid=10867&t=n
Your "competitor" has bigger issues right now. Oh wait, you must mean Matrox.

[Samiad]

[quote]I raised the issue some weeks back and Dave Baumann said he was going to speak to the 4800 series guys to find out what the story is (i.e. how they enabled support...)

Dave, did you manage to get any further with this problem?

Honestly, I ended up more confused by the response than I did prior to asking! There seemed to be some questions over how it even got enabled for RV770 (though I think the indication that there may have been a Matrox update?). The take out, though, was that its not a trivial matter to support it, unfortunatly.

Dave - thanks for keeping us updated on this, even if the news isn't the best.

[arkan_swe_utopia]

[quote]Cool, here's mine!
I have had NVidia cards for the last three goes (7900, 8800, now 280) and one thing I really like is the ability to set quality setting independently in the Ctrl Panel. For example I still play a lot of BF2 so I set that to max in the CP, obviously that wouldn't be ideal for when I am playing Crysis Wars or GTA4! So when will ATi support this feature, I only realised when EF came out that it didn't!

Catalyst supports static profiles - you can assign the settings that you want for a particular game and then create a desktop icon for that.

Hello, I wrote in the other forum, But I guess this is the place to ask...

I have 2 5870 cards running crossfire. But of course when I game I want to do it in eyefinity...

So here´s my quistion I have set up 2 different profiles checked the box all catalyst settings. the difference between the profiles is 1 profile with CF and 123 screens in extended and one profile without crossfire and eyefinity.

everytime when I try to switch profile TO eyefinty I always end up with 3 cloned screens and I have to go in and detect all 3 screens and enable eyefinity, But switching back to CF 3 screens extended NP...

Is it just me or a known problem...?

Hope you understood me

[Dave Baumann]

Yup, known issue. A fix will be coming in an upcoming Catalyst release, please read here:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=175895#p175895

[arkan_swe_utopia]

Yup, known issue. A fix will be coming in an upcoming Catalyst release, please read here:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=175895#p175895

ahhh...

thanks