Oblivion Elder Scrolls; First Impressions

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I was really impressed with the performance of the game (autodetected Ultra Quality). It was running no less than 35 outside and uptp 60 indoors.

That was until i headed west into a large forest and the framerate took a huge dive, like unplayably slow!

I think my CPU is my bottleneck here... and my onboard sound isnt helping either (and my Audigy 2 doesent fit in the case...)

Paradigm Shifter... your pc is almost identical to mine apart from your faster CPU, hows it running for you?

(i have HDR on, i dont find the jaggies much of a problem in this game...)


We have essentially the same systems. I wouldn't exactly say that your 4200+ X2 is your bottleneck. The game is dual core optimized so I would imagine that your CPU is better suited than even Paradigm's 4000+ single core. The game is just bleeding edge as far as the technology goes. This game will tax ANY system out there now.

What resolution are you running framerateuk? I brought mine down a step to 1680x1050 and I get very good framerates everywhere. Everyone gets lower framerates when it is rendering a ton of swaying trees and grass, but anything over 30 fps is fine for me with games like this. It actually runs well at 1920x1200 everywhere except outside in the forests where it would go into the 20s. This is why i dropped it down a notch resolution wise and gained about 10FPS more. You should net similar results. (I do have both my CPU and video card overclocked however.)

To Paradigm: The distant land textures look kinda crappy even on "Ultra High" settings, but people have been tweaking their .ini files to make the game look even better as far as distant textures go. (at a cost of framerate). I personally havent messed with it, because I don't really want to make the game perform worse. This is one future-proofed game. We won't likely see the game in all it's potential splendor for a few generations of hardware.
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Well...

ive ripped out the X2, replaced it with a 3200+ and beleive it or not the game is far smoother! 1920x1200 and no stuttering, framerate goes to the 20's in the forest areas but thats it! I guess my motherboard must have X2 issues...
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To Paradigm: The distant land textures look kinda crappy even on "Ultra High" settings, but people have been tweaking their .ini files to make the game look even better as far as distant textures go. (at a cost of framerate). ...
and the tweaks mess up the reflections in the water ... :(
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Bethesda recently announced that the PC version of ES4 cannot have both HDR and AA, but it looked quite nice with just HDR. Load times are faster on the PC, but the visuals are about equal. The 360 version of Oblivion does both HDR and AA


I read that IGN article, but they were using an nVidia 7800GTX 256mb card. I was hoping that the ATi cards would prove differently.

I guess it's back to nVidia for my upgrade....

And though I have a 360, I love this on my PC -- even with the framerate drops. Even without AA, nothing compares to 1200x1920 rez.
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There's an aritcle on Gamespot that details a comparison between the 7900GTX in SLi and the X1900XTX in Crossfire. Generally, the 7900 card won out, except in 2 tests. In one 3dmark06 text, the 7900GTX cards wouldn't run HDR & AA, but the X1900XTX cards would.

Maybe you need 2 of these cards to enable both...?
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I have found this to be handy ...

To save games with names of your own choosing ...

Bring down the console with the tilde key .... ~ or `...
type (without the quotes) ...

save "name of your own choosing"

Press escape ... and you have a saved file with the name you chose ... 8)
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I also don't like how if you attack someone adn they don't die in one hit, or you steal something and get seen, a guard appears basically instantly. but oh well, as long asyou don't get seen you are fine.
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Ive got a bit of a problem at the moment, theres a guard constantly chasing me who wont leave me along! I could leave the city i suppose...

Hes getting rather annoying! I tried killing him but i got pwn3d :)
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Ive got a bit of a problem at the moment, theres a guard constantly chasing me who wont leave me along! I could leave the city i suppose...

Hes getting rather annoying! I tried killing him but i got pwn3d :)


Just let him catch you and do your time or pay your bounty.
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About the HDR and AA on an X1900, i can confirm you CAN NOT run them together.
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well bought the game also and have to say i was dissapointed in the opening level/sewer. my lcd just didnt give good blackness so i needed to play with a torch in order to make it looking nice. overall iam very happy with this game although i wish it was longer day time and less dark time.
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Anybody else try manually adjusting the FOV yet? Whats good for our monitors?

Check this guide for the FOV and other stuff:

http://ideveloper.pandora-studios.com/files/OblivionSettingsGuide.txt


I figure if he thinks 90 is good for a normal monitor....120 is good for us?
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Anybody else try manually adjusting the FOV yet? Whats good for our monitors?

Check this guide for the FOV and other stuff:

http://ideveloper.pandora-studios.com/files/OblivionSettingsGuide.txt


I figure if he thinks 90 is good for a normal monitor....120 is good for us?


I set mine to 80 at a 16:10 aspect ratio. The FoV number in Oblivion seems to be lower than it seems to really be. 80 looks about right in my opinion.
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We have essentially the same systems. I wouldn't exactly say that your 4200+ X2 is your bottleneck. The game is dual core optimized so I would imagine that your CPU is better suited than even Paradigm's 4000+ single core. The game is just bleeding edge as far as the technology goes. This game will tax ANY system out there now.

Just tried it on my Core Duo laptop... the graphics card isn't up to it, really... it's not a whole lot more playable than on my 2500+ Athlon XP box. Trying to run high resolutions in this game requires a monster of a PC...

Paddy, you wouldn't have an FX-60 you could lend me, would you? ;) (Or an FX-57... :lol:)

To Paradigm: The distant land textures look kinda crappy even on "Ultra High" settings, but people have been tweaking their .ini files to make the game look even better as far as distant textures go. (at a cost of framerate). I personally havent messed with it, because I don't really want to make the game perform worse. This is one future-proofed game. We won't likely see the game in all it's potential splendor for a few generations of hardware.

That's cool... I was wondering what it would be like in that regard... thanks. :)
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About the HDR and AA on an X1900, i can confirm you CAN NOT run them together.


Thanks. Maybe I'll hold off until the new cards come out. I hear that they're only 3-4 months away.

Of course, I said that about 3-4 months ago....
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About the HDR/AA thing... it isn't a problem with ATi... it's a problem with the way the game was coded.

This is because of the FP32 precision that ATi uses, while nVidia use FP16...
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Correct, so if we're lucky they make a patch for it so we can enjoy the game with HDR and AA on after all. :P :D
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If we're lucky.

If we're not, then we're lumbered.

I still think it looks good, though; although I prefer a low amount of AA to using HDR...
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please help i downloaded oblivion , and i like it a lot so far the only thing is i have a 2405 so , im playing it at 1680 , but i only have a medium rig and the framerate at this res is very low on my sys , (x850pe, amd 3500, 2 gig of ram) right now i can only afford one upgrade which should it be ? an x1900xtx card or a new processor for oblivion ? what frame rate are you guys getting on a x1900xtx at 1680x1050 all help aprecciated. thanx guys .
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The graphics card would have more effect that any other upgrade, I think.

However... you 'downloaded' it? We didn't want to know that.
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