Widescreen Gaming Forum

[quote]Christ.

Would someone just give the devs and these people a TH2G set-up and let them see how V- (or however the devs want to spin it) is just absolutely wrong...

I can't see how playing this game on a TH2G with its V- leaves the game playable at all...

They actually developed for tall formats, either not realizing it or simply dissembling about it to take some heat off of the forums.

Their Vert- approach makes sense if we are to have thinner and taller monitors because it shows more of the top and bottom as the display gets taller. So the taller your monitor, the better your view. We do not however (nor is our actual physical vision set this way... we have our eyes side by side), we have shorter and wider monitors, in which case Horz+ makes sense because it shows more side to side as the display widens, so the wider your monitor, the better your view.

This is why Horz+ should be the default. We have plenty of people with monster widescreen setups (triplehead2go), but about zilch with massive tallscreen setups. If us widescreeners rotated our displays 90 degrees, we'd have a "huge" advantage over 4:3 gamers again! Bring that up on the forums to stifle the 4:3 people saying that widescreeners lose the advantage with vert-. We don't... it's still there, just rotated :)

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/116/chartwu5.jpg

All in all I'd say 2k Elizabet handled this pretty well - still not acceptable to begin with of course - but at least they seem to know what's going on out here.

Why don't you guys wait first for them to fix it before you congratulate them? They said they would release a good ws support too, where did that go?

As for this Elizabet, sounds like a liar to me. I wouldn't trust her to cross the road first.

I'm happy to give her and 2K the benefit of doubt ...
These things take time and big companies can often be slow ...

I say lets see ... most games have problems when they are first released.

I'm happy to give her and 2K the benefit of doubt ...
These things take time and big companies can often be slow ...

I say lets see ... most games have problems when they are first released.

Paddy, well done mate for that original screenshot combo of yours on page 1 of that 2k thread that highlighted this whole debacle... You.Are.The.Man

Thank you ... 8)

Excellent result guys, and well done to Racer_S!

Yeah well done Paddy on the highlighting of the issue.

I personally spent 3 days of god knows how many hours 'fighting' this issue over @ 2k forums (probably to the annoyance of 'most anyone reading), but it was a principles thing for me, which was fueled even further from the intial first "official" response which was flawed and innacurate.

I wouldn't say I wanted 2k to 'eat their words' as such but the combination of that statement and the massive amount of fanboys who wouldn't STFU telling us we were 'wrong' just made me more determined. :)

I Hope Racer_S enjoys his 8800, i've got one (a GTX) and it's sweet.

Thanks for that ... I read most of your posts ... :D
Racer has just heard from E at 2K ... :D

Glad this is pretty much sorted now, I just find it funny people are still arguing back and forth on the 2K thread.

I am like a moth to the flame, I can’t look away.

I am like a moth to the flame, I can’t look away.

Be careful ... you'll get burnt ! ... :lol:

paddy what info on DX10 do you need to get it work ill help any way i can here i got vista64 up and running and have a 8800

[quote]... In the end they're doing the right thing, and that's what matters.

I wouldn't so much call it "the right thing", as it is more of an apology. Just because you say "I'm sorry" for making a mistake, does not erase the fact that you made the mistake in the first place.

It'd be like a murderer turning themselves into the police. It's a good thing to do, the right thing under those circumstances, but it still doesn't excuse the fact that you killed someone.

The ideal "right thing" to do, would be never to have had these problems in the first place. You don't get an award for saying "I'm sorry" when you make a mistake. You are supposed to do it.

And quite frankly, judging by the initial PR responses, we probably wouldn't be getting a resolution to this issue if there wasn't such a large community backlash.

Again, I am still glad they are doing it. Many companies don't even attempt to "make amends" and just ignore the problems all together. But just don't give them too much credit as they will be trying to do the bare minimum possible to quiet everyone down, nothing more.

Aggies

[quote]... In the end they're doing the right thing, and that's what matters.

I wouldn't so much call it "the right thing", as it is more of an apology. Just because you say "I'm sorry" for making a mistake, does not erase the fact that you made the mistake in the first place.

It'd be like a murderer turning themselves into the police. It's a good thing to do, the right thing under those circumstances, but it still doesn't excuse the fact that you killed someone.

The ideal "right thing" to do, would be never to have had these problems in the first place. You don't get an award for saying "I'm sorry" when you make a mistake. You are supposed to do it.

And quite frankly, judging by the initial PR responses, we probably wouldn't be getting a resolution to this issue if there wasn't such a large community backlash.

Again, I am still glad they are doing it. Many companies don't even attempt to "make amends" and just ignore the problems all together. But just don't give them too much credit as they will be trying to do the bare minimum possible to quiet everyone down, nothing more.

Aggies
Oh come on, that's a ridiculous metaphor. You're a little off base if you're comparing this to murder.

I was upset about their implementation as anyone, heck I was the second person to post about it after Paddy over at 2K; but they're human, they made a mistake, and they're correcting it. You can't "unkill" someone, but you can patch a bad FOV.

They actually didn't have to do anything. If you didn't like their implementation, you didn't need to buy their game. Those of us who have been complaining about the implementation have been catching some undue flak, but if you're still holding a grudge at this point you really do need to pull the stick out.

You can't "unkill" someone, but you can patch a bad FOV.

... :lol:

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7334

you guys might wanna comment on this, its such a lame argument its funny.

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7334

you guys might wanna comment on this, its such a lame argument its funny.

No ... had enough of that nonsense ... :wink:

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7334

you guys might wanna comment on this, its such a lame argument its funny.

I'm with Paddy, it would be walking into the discussion version of 'groundhog day' and exactly what they want us to do. No way do they deserve my attention when they don't even know what the issue really was.

Exactly ...

Wow.

This is great news. I finally got a good amount of sleep and now I wake up to find both confirmation of a forthcoming patch AND and 8800 being supplied to Racer_S courtesy of 2K.

All I can say is they better not mess up my VERT+ with the patch.