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Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 05:52
by rdunlap
Amon Amarth wrote:rdunlap wrote:Amon Amarth wrote:The latest nVidia drivers did have an impact on SLI scaling, as my FPS seems to be more consistent. However, I still get really unnecessary FPS dips in areas where it doesn't make any sense. For instance, a little town called Goodneighbor, or the museum in Concord, my FPS dips down to the 30's. Doesn't make sense considering it's not part of the game instance, and how small it is compared to the outside environment. Especially the museum where a very small in-door area gives me 30 FPS. I think at this point it's on Bethesda, and they need to patch the game in order to optimize for SLI.
EDIT: Looks like I spoke too soon, seems like this profile is not properly done, and some people are reporting negative SLI scaling, saying that the bits they where using before the driver update gave them much better performance:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/894480/sli/fallout-4-sli/10/?offset=149#4744469Looks like Bethesda and nVidia have more work to do.
Absolutely,
Like I said earlier I have seen a general improvement in the small drops i have had Not SLI. A couple of questions if I may. first I am on a 780 TI 4 gig have you noticed the last couple of generation GPU's are the ones having the most problems? I was getting ready to buy a 980 and the wife talked me into waiting till after Christmas I would have been livid had i spent the money to get it only to find the 780 was better.

are the drivers just not catching up with current hardware?
Second, are you running any texture mods in your setups? I only ask because I had downloaded one from the nexus *(well several) but one was causing strange happenings. a simple high res signs texture replacer. In urban areas where there was lots of signs Fallout was chocking up but not on framerate. it was other things like disappearing arms and weapons once my carry weight went up to 3030 from 330

I took it out and all the strangeness went away. I harbor the suspicion that since Bethesda wrote this game Intending to have it modded they started messing around with crap that was just simple and working before. Now we all know poorly made textures can flush the toilet on your game/GPU but these are reasonably well made and not excessive in size. 2k avg on the signs. I don't even want to see it react to a 4k NPC body replacer like is common in skyrim. Anyhow probably not the forum for it but it relates somewhat to you guys discussion.
Robert
I've seen reports of a many different setups with problems that are both on the 700 series of video cards and 900 series. Both SLI and non-SLI, which tells me that Fallout 4 is horribly optimized, and they need to patch it. It's like they released a beta...
As for your second question, no texture mods on my end. If your getting problems, you might need to reinstall the game because of the mod.
It absolutely needed more and wider testing before release day, I keep getting an image of 3 dudes in a back room testing on off the shelf computers and giving thumbs up to every test cycle.

and NO I use a mod manager to prevent that

. the alpha 2 of ModOrganizer 2 is actually doing well. My issue was happening when the texture was being used and went away when I got rid of it. I wasnt trashing your card, I STILL want one but have decided to wait out the headaches since my 700 series is handling it better for now.
Robert
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 11:30
by flyingdingy
sd_dracula wrote:flyingdingy wrote:what is needed to get this game to work in 5760x1080 with fixes?
it is impossible to make any sense out of this thread.
Now I have given up and are playing it in 1920x1080 with my side vision black
Check page 20. It has a guide on there.
Thank you.
Yes, I've seen it, but in that post it says:
Outdated: Use this
http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 79#p162479
and if I follow that link, it is the same story again, outdated, and following that link, we get to page 33
http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 79#p162479which only link to the fallout4 interface.zip
What I feel is really needed for the noobs out there (like me) is a edited uptodate Step-by-step guide including ALL files (the latest files) and step-by-step IN THE FIRST POST
The way it is now (as far as I can see) is that one have to edit some settings in the fallout.ini (and the other .ini's) , download the interface.zip, and so on...
But I think I have missed something, because when I do that, the game doesnt look good, missing the top and bottom of the screen, ++
A simple step-by-step to get 5760x1080 to work in Fallout 4 would be highly appreciated. (preferably in the first posts for new users searching for this info)
Then the ppl needing to correct for bezel and such can continue reading/tweaking... I dont mind playing with the minor influence bezel correction has (plus that I am using monitors with thin edges so I dont really need bezel correction)
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 12:33
by Toothless Spoon
I wasn't going to play this game in surround, get enough stutter at 1440p, but is this playable in surround? I've only half-heartily followed the thread
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 12:57
by Haldi
flyingdingy wrote:What I feel is really needed for the noobs out there (like me) is a edited uptodate Step-by-step guide including ALL files (the latest files) and step-by-step IN THE FIRST POST
Well yeah... Normally we have a detailed Report in the MasterGameList for this Game with all Steps included.
But... for reasons.... We don't have one yet for Fallout 4.
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 13:12
by flyingdingy
Haldi wrote:Well yeah... Normally we have a detailed Report in the MasterGameList for this Game with all Steps included.
But... for reasons.... We don't have one yet for Fallout 4.
Ah, sorry, I did not know that. (as I am a fairly new to widescreen gaming and most of the games I play support Surround view natively, thus why I am shocked such a big game title as Fallout 4 did not..)
But it looks like some of you guru's out there have a pretty good working solution by now?
Why not post that in the MasterGameList - and update as better solutions come along?
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 13:43
by Shortykiller
Hi Gues
New to this forum...
I´ve triede setting up Fallout 4 on 3 minotors as described, and it almost works
But I get this wierd view, not centered on the screen. Only half on the left screen.
I have attached a screenshoot of it..
Any ideas that might help me!?
Best Regardz Shorty
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 14:33
by rdunlap
Shortykiller wrote:Hi Gues
New to this forum...
I´ve triede setting up Fallout 4 on 3 minotors as described, and it almost works
But I get this wierd view, not centered on the screen. Only half on the left screen.
I have attached a screenshoot of it..
Any ideas that might help me!?
Best Regardz Shorty
Let me guess you are on nVidia and using Bezel compensation right? If so you are going to have to switch to non bezel corrected till nVidia catches up.

Robert
EDIT: let me be fair and say it is more likely that Bethesda is the culprit in how they assemble and present the UI. there were some obvious shortcuts taken, especially with the HUD elements layouts that are the biggest problem with the game in tripple-wide environment.
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 14:46
by Kayden
sd_dracula wrote:Kayden wrote:I'm using the new NVIDIA drivers for Win10 and SLI works very well.
Are you using surround also?
Last time I checked surround on Win10 the windows UI was messed up and skewed so I went back to 8.1
Did they fix that do you know?
5760x1080 works at 60fps now at least woohoo!
Does anyone have a link to the files needed to fix the menu I know they're on this page somewhere...
I've been using Win 10 since release and I've never had a problem with 5760x1080. Though if there was a problem for you, I think it might have been fixed in the massive Nov update.
Here are the instructions, again.
1) Download the zip file provided by Haldi in his post -
http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 12#p162512 - "Fallout4 - Interface2.zip" - Unzip and copy the file.
2) Go to "Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data" rename interface.ba2 to interface.old and then place Haldi's ba2 file into its place (renaming to interface.ba2)
3) Edit the Fallout4.ini file with:
[Interface]
fSafeZoneX=250.0
//was 15.0 - MM fix is 250.0
fSafeZoneXWide=1300.0
//was 64.0 - MM Fix is 1300.0
//add these values
fNoteDistance=12.0000
fBookDistance=36.6667
fWorkshopMenuItem3DScale=2.0000
4) Save
5) Edit the Fallout4prefs.ini with:
[Display]
iSize W=5760
Or whatever your width of your desktop is so long as it isn't bezel corrected.
6) Save
7) Run the game
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 14:59
by rdunlap
Kayden wrote:sd_dracula wrote:Kayden wrote:I'm using the new NVIDIA drivers for Win10 and SLI works very well.
Are you using surround also?
Last time I checked surround on Win10 the windows UI was messed up and skewed so I went back to 8.1
Did they fix that do you know?
5760x1080 works at 60fps now at least woohoo!
Does anyone have a link to the files needed to fix the menu I know they're on this page somewhere...
I've been using Win 10 since release and I've never had a problem with 5760x1080. Though if there was a problem for you, I think it might have been fixed in the massive Nov update.
Here are the instructions, again.
1) Download the zip file provided by Haldi in his post -
http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 12#p162512 - "Fallout4 - Interface2.zip" - Unzip and copy the file.
2) Go to "Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data" rename interface.ba2 to interface.old and then place Haldi's ba2 file into its place (renaming to interface.ba2)
3) Edit the Fallout4.ini file with:
[Interface]
fSafeZoneX=250.0
//was 15.0 - MM fix is 250.0
fSafeZoneXWide=1300.0
//was 64.0 - MM Fix is 1300.0
//add these values
fNoteDistance=12.0000
fBookDistance=36.6667
fWorkshopMenuItem3DScale=2.0000
4) Save
5) Edit the Fallout4prefs.ini with:
[Display]
iSize W=5760
Or whatever your width of your desktop is so long as it isn't bezel corrected.
6) Save
7) Run the game
Kayden Should something be said for fullscreen? windowed has its own issues, especially nVidia surround. For me all of the micro-stutters and all the interface shifts went away when i switched to fullscreen.
Robert
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 18:38
by spacepiggio
Shortykiller wrote:Hi Gues
New to this forum...
I´ve triede setting up Fallout 4 on 3 minotors as described, and it almost works
But I get this wierd view, not centered on the screen. Only half on the left screen.
I have attached a screenshoot of it..
Any ideas that might help me!?
Best Regardz Shorty
Mine was skewed to the right & I am running 3 27" with a res. of 5760 X 1080. I had a bezel comp. of 6048 X 1080 so I changed my files to that & it went back to center.
I also can only play in crossfire, I have 2 AMD 7950's 3 gig. OC & when I disabled crossfire the char. kept freezing every 3 steps.
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 18:39
by Kayden
rdunlap wrote:Kayden Should something be said for fullscreen? windowed has its own issues, especially nVidia surround. For me all of the micro-stutters and all the interface shifts went away when i switched to fullscreen.
Robert
To be honest I don't run any game unless it is in Fullscreen, due to the fact SLI won't work unless it is in Fullscreen. You're right it should be mentioned that Fullscreen should be enabled.
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 20:03
by flyingdingy
Kayden wrote:Here are the instructions, again.
1) Download the zip file provided by Haldi in his post -
http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 12#p162512 - "Fallout4 - Interface2.zip" - Unzip and copy the file.
2) Go to "Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data" rename interface.ba2 to interface.old and then place Haldi's ba2 file into its place (renaming to interface.ba2)
3) Edit the Fallout4.ini file with:
[Interface]
fSafeZoneX=250.0
//was 15.0 - MM fix is 250.0
fSafeZoneXWide=1300.0
//was 64.0 - MM Fix is 1300.0
//add these values
fNoteDistance=12.0000
fBookDistance=36.6667
fWorkshopMenuItem3DScale=2.0000
4) Save
5) Edit the Fallout4prefs.ini with:
[Display]
iSize W=5760
Or whatever your width of your desktop is so long as it isn't bezel corrected.
6) Save
7) Run the game
PERFECT!
Works like a charm!
If the thread starter edit the first post to include this very simple, yet perfect step-by-step guide, it should make it alot easier for a new user searching for this info.
Thanks a million!

PS: Only mod I had to do in addition to above steps where the FOV settings (90)
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/11 ... t-4-fixes/
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 20:17
by Shortykiller
rdunlap wrote:Shortykiller wrote:Hi Gues
New to this forum...
I´ve triede setting up Fallout 4 on 3 minotors as described, and it almost works
But I get this wierd view, not centered on the screen. Only half on the left screen.
I have attached a screenshoot of it..
Any ideas that might help me!?
Best Regardz Shorty
Let me guess you are on nVidia and using Bezel compensation right? If so you are going to have to switch to non bezel corrected till nVidia catches up.

Robert
EDIT: let me be fair and say it is more likely that Bethesda is the culprit in how they assemble and present the UI. there were some obvious shortcuts taken, especially with the HUD elements layouts that are the biggest problem with the game in tripple-wide environment.
Thank you
IT was the bessel correction that fucked it up, now it works

Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 20:24
by sd_dracula
I am running 5905 pixels with bezel correction.
You guys saying I should turn it off?
I just need different values for the [Interface] options I think. So that the icons are not tiny and to shift the center screen a bit to the right as the menu is in the bezel for a few pixels.
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 21:55
by rdunlap
sd_dracula wrote:I am running 5905 pixels with bezel correction.
You guys saying I should turn it off?
I just need different values for the [Interface] options I think. So that the icons are not tiny and to shift the center screen a bit to the right as the menu is in the bezel for a few pixels.
Welllllll,
if you want to tweak the ini settings *(slowly like increments of 5-10 and one setting at a time) I have no idea if you will succeed or not BUT if you do share the settings changes so the rest of us can try them too. be nice to have my compensation back. I am playing without it because when i found settings that just worked I got WAY to busy playing the game to tweak an ini setting.
Robert

Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 03:09
by SorrowSp3LL
Hi I'm new to the triple monitor set up and I'm having some difficulty getting my field of view to match up between the 3 monitors on this game. I'm running off a 980TI 5760X1080 I've gotten all the other tweaks and stuff off this site to work properly but it seems like the .ini file fDefaultWorldFOV=XX and fDefault1stPersonFOV=XX only effects my center screen and the only way i can get the center to match the sides is by setting my FoV to about 30. I was wondering if this is a known issue for widescreen gaming or if its a fallout 4 specific issue and if there is a fix?
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 03:21
by rdunlap
SorrowSp3LL wrote:Hi I'm new to the triple monitor set up and I'm having some difficulty getting my field of view to match up between the 3 monitors on this game. I'm running off a 980TI 5760X1080 I've gotten all the other tweaks and stuff off this site to work properly but it seems like the .ini file fDefaultWorldFOV=XX and fDefault1stPersonFOV=XX only effects my center screen and the only way i can get the center to match the sides is by setting my FoV to about 30. I was wondering if this is a known issue for widescreen gaming or if its a fallout 4 specific issue and if there is a fix?
You are seeing artifacts of widescreen in general. BUT! you can minimize it a lot. what monitor size are you using? all the same size? these things have an effect. with my setup on nVidia 780TI driving matched dell s224's 90 and 90 gets it closest. you get it to the best look you can then play a while and the whole issue will go away. you have to teach your mark 1 eyeballs to play nice with the setup.

the surround screens in theory are peripheral vision anyhow.
that said anytime you have questions just ask. Great to have a new widescreen convert. Its absolutely a learning process and every game wants something slightly different.
Robert
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 03:46
by SorrowSp3LL
I'm playing on 3 Dell U2414H 23.8". Are you referring to the FoV settings when you say 90 and 90? The closest i got to to matching the displays was like i said turning the FoV down to around 30 for each of the .ini lines. That made the center display match the peripheral displays but its hard to play with such a magnified looking picture. Most games I've played had this issue a little bit but as you said play for awhile and i noticed it went away, I seem to be noticing it a lot more in fallout 4 then most games though.
Thanks for the welcome! I'm really enjoying the triple monitor set up so far, most games aren't to bad to tweak and get working properly. Totally been worth the minor tweaks so far!
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 03:54
by rdunlap
SorrowSp3LL wrote:I'm playing on 3 Dell U2414H 23.8". Are you referring to the FoV settings when you say 90 and 90? The closest i got to to matching the displays was like i said turning the FoV down to around 30 for each of the .ini lines. That made the center display match the peripheral displays but its hard to play with such a magnified looking picture. Most games I've played had this issue a little bit but as you said play for awhile and i noticed it went away, I seem to be noticing it a lot more in fallout 4 then most games though.
Thanks for the welcome! I'm really enjoying the triple monitor set up so far, most games aren't to bad to tweak and get working properly. Totally been worth the minor tweaks so far!
30 is WAY wrong. can you grab a screen shot standing near something or in a room from 1st person view? I would like to see what you are describing my eyeballs would splode if i set mine to 30. now 130 would be on the high side of correct....
Robert
Re: Fallout 4 Eyefinity/Surround
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 04:12
by SorrowSp3LL