Eyefinity 5x1-P is LIVE with "Cayman" Driver

[tbaerg]

can we get a link to the drivers? please??????

[skipclarke]

That is why Matrox never achieved success with GXM boxes with the mainstream public.

Plus the fact that LCDs were really expensive, and 3x CRT would turn most desks into a pile of rubble (if they'd even fit).

can we get a link to the drivers? please??????

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst1012ahotfix.aspx

[BHawthorne]

[quote]That is why Matrox never achieved success with GXM boxes with the mainstream public.

Plus the fact that LCDs were really expensive, and 3x CRT would turn most desks into a pile of rubble (if they'd even fit).

True enough, LCD prices crashing finally got AMD's attention and AMD got NVIDIA's attention. Still practically speaking, needing only a single card to do this kind of stuff is pretty handy. It's a shame that DP hasn't made market penetration with projector and LCD manufacturers like HDMI has though. I suspect it'll take 2-5 years before DP is standard on new LCD models. I foresee DVI phasing out in favor of current HDMI and DP specs that have enough bandwidth to feed more than a 30". I'm interested to see what these specs generate as far as panel resolutions now that we can get past the Dual-DVI bandwidth limit. I foresee a 4kHD panel being fed with a single cable soon. Frankly the sooner the better. If 4kHD came to the panel market, I'd like to see 2560x1600 panels start tanking in price like 1080p did a short while ago into the mainstream.

[BHawthorne]

I read that 5x1 is enabled by using two DVI, the HDMI and the two DP ports? Could anyone confirm that is the way 5x1 is done with these drivers and 6000-series?

[wagoo]

I read that 5x1 is enabled by using two DVI, the HDMI and the two DP ports? Could anyone confirm that is the way 5x1 is done with these drivers and 6000-series?

No. I gather you can only use 4 displays on the 6xxx series until displayport hubs become available next year (allowing you to connect multiple monitors to each of the displayport.. ports)

Only 2 ports out of the 2x DVI + 1x HDMI can be used at once. So no 5x1P on the current 6xxx cards for now..

[stangflyer]

I read that 5x1 is enabled by using two DVI, the HDMI and the two DP ports? Could anyone confirm that is the way 5x1 is done with these drivers and 6000-series?

big +1

[xetura]

I'll be interested when there is a 5x1 landscape option. Portrait= meh.

[GeneralAdmission]

A little promotional love from [H] via Blues.

[BHawthorne]

I'll be interested when there is a 5x1 landscape option. Portrait= meh.

5x1 landscape would easily push the FOV over 180 degree mark. Most games don't like that and would probably CTD from the camera code. Plus, I know the 5000-series had a upper pixel width limit of 8000? pixels. Anyone know if it's the same on the 6000-series or if the pixel count is wider?

Frankly, I think 5x1 portrait mode looks awesome. I'd show 5x1 portrait 1080p projector if I could get a sponsor on the projectors. I know BenQ W1000's would work. We tested one portrait rotated at the AMD 6800-series launch event to see if they'd handle the thermals of being rotated. :wink:

[suiken_2mieu]

[quote]I'll be interested when there is a 5x1 landscape option. Portrait= meh.

5x1 landscape would easily push the FOV over 180 degree mark. Most games don't like that and would probably CTD from the camera code. Plus, I know the 5000-series had a upper pixel width limit of 8000? pixels. Anyone know if it's the same on the 6000-series or if the pixel count is wider?

Frankly, I think 5x1 portrait mode looks awesome. I'd show 5x1 portrait 1080p projector if I could get a sponsor on the projectors. I know BenQ W1000's would work. We tested one portrait rotated at the AMD 6800-series launch event to see if they'd handle the thermals of being rotated. :wink:
What's wrong with projectors being portrait, as opposed to landscape? Wouldn't the heat still just rise out of the vents?

[skipclarke]

[quote]I read that 5x1 is enabled by using two DVI, the HDMI and the two DP ports? Could anyone confirm that is the way 5x1 is done with these drivers and 6000-series?

big +1
No, this is done with a Radeon 5870 Eyefinity6

[skipclarke]

A little promotional love from [H] via Blues.

Sweet on the Blues link. I emailed Kyle that morning.

[BHawthorne]

What's wrong with projectors being portrait, as opposed to landscape? Wouldn't the heat still just rise out of the vents?

In order to get high lumens the bulbs are insanely hot. They have to design the projector housing and air cooling to properly account for it. Typically, that means that a projector is configured only to handle floor and ceiling orientation for mounting. 90 degree portrait you'll either burn up your bulb or projector in many cases. You ask any major projection manufacturer to use their projectors outside their specified orientation configurations and often times they'll say it voids warranty. Inquire with any and all consumer marketed projector manufacturers and I seriously doubt any single one of them will tell you they certify any of their projectors work properly in portrait mode. 99% of them will instantly shut down because they sense either improper orientation or temperatures outside specification.

It's rather unfortunate, because 1920 pixel height is sexy when used with multiple projectors. I do know BenQ W1000 won't shut down though and work for at least 12 hours. BenQ specifically said NOT to do this when asked, but it works. Who knows how bad the orientation change effects the bulb life though. With projectors it's all about the temperatures.

What I'd like to do is find a set of 1080p projectors to test this on and run it as my main system and just see how long they last through regular use. The only way people will start using projectors in portrait mode is to have data on success and failures.

[xetura]

[quote]I'll be interested when there is a 5x1 landscape option. Portrait= meh.

5x1 landscape would easily push the FOV over 180 degree mark. Most games don't like that and would probably CTD from the camera code. Plus, I know the 5000-series had a upper pixel width limit of 8000? pixels. Anyone know if it's the same on the 6000-series or if the pixel count is wider?

Frankly, I think 5x1 portrait mode looks awesome. I'd show 5x1 portrait 1080p projector if I could get a sponsor on the projectors. I know BenQ W1000's would work. We tested one portrait rotated at the AMD 6800-series launch event to see if they'd handle the thermals of being rotated. :wink:

If it's not possible, then I guess 3 is fine for me. Portrait makes your monitors almost half as wide and you have even more bezels in the way. It just looks counter-productive to me.

[suiken_2mieu]

[quote][quote]I'll be interested when there is a 5x1 landscape option. Portrait= meh.

5x1 landscape would easily push the FOV over 180 degree mark. Most games don't like that and would probably CTD from the camera code. Plus, I know the 5000-series had a upper pixel width limit of 8000? pixels. Anyone know if it's the same on the 6000-series or if the pixel count is wider?

Frankly, I think 5x1 portrait mode looks awesome. I'd show 5x1 portrait 1080p projector if I could get a sponsor on the projectors. I know BenQ W1000's would work. We tested one portrait rotated at the AMD 6800-series launch event to see if they'd handle the thermals of being rotated. :wink:

If it's not possible, then I guess 3 is fine for me. Portrait makes your monitors almost half as wide and you have even more bezels in the way. It just looks counter-productive to me.

Well it goes back to a couple of things.

3x2 L Versus 5x1 P

3x2 gives you a nice bulging bezel cutting the screen in half horizontally. Right in the middle of your vision.
5x1 Give you a bigger vertical pixel height, and bigger screen real-estate without having your picture cut in half. It also allows for a reticule that isn't split in anyway.

5x1 P Versus 3x1 L
5x1 P is generally wider (Physically) than 3x1 L of the same panel. It's also taller, which give a crisper picture.

3x1 P Versus 5x1 P
5x1 P is just wider. With both you get the same crispness.

[stangflyer]

One other thing to consider with going 5x1P. I have a large number of games that have the fixes found here at the WSGF to run at my 5040x1050 res. Doom 3, Quake 4, R6lv2 that I still play alot of and IL2 with San's IL2 fov changer. This is a few of the games with fixes that I play.

If one is to get into 5x1P gaming (I Want to) I think that these games that are fixed to play at the 16x9 and 16x10 aspect ratio are not gonna ever get fixed at 5x1p res. I don't know though. Its not bad to go from 5040x1050 on 3 landscape monitors to 1680x1050 to play a game that does not support surround. However to would be a nightmare to change your desk around to go from 5x1p to 3x1L to play a surround game where there is not a fix for it for 5x1P.

Is my reasoning sound? Will some of the heavy hitters here that are brilliant with there fixes take care of some of these games for 5x1P.
I can barely follow some of the directions on some of the fixes much less actually fixing something! :oops:

[suiken_2mieu]

One other thing to consider with going 5x1P. I have a large number of games that have the fixes found here at the WSGF to run at my 5040x1050 res. Doom 3, Quake 4, R6lv2 that I still play alot of and IL2 with San's IL2 fov changer. This is a few of the games with fixes that I play.

If one is to get into 5x1P gaming (I Want to) I think that these games that are fixed to play at the 16x9 and 16x10 aspect ratio are not gonna ever get fixed at 5x1p res. I don't know though. Its not bad to go from 5040x1050 on 3 landscape monitors to 1680x1050 to play a game that does not support surround. However to would be a nightmare to change your desk around to go from 5x1p to 3x1L to play a surround game where there is not a fix for it for 5x1P.

Is my reasoning sound? Will some of the heavy hitters here that are brilliant with there fixes take care of some of these games for 5x1P.
I can barely follow some of the directions on some of the fixes much less actually fixing something! :oops:

Well eons ago when i had a 5x1P setup, if there was a game that didn't support that aspect ratio I did 1 of two things. Either play on the middle 3 (16:10 ratio with 3x1P 16:9 Monitors) or I would pull the middle monitor forward and rotate it.

I would also move the left most and right most monitors forward and rotate them to play 3x1L if there was a game that just didn't like SoftTH (had to do it before this driver came out).

[stangflyer]

[quote]One other thing to consider with going 5x1P. I have a large number of games that have the fixes found here at the WSGF to run at my 5040x1050 res. Doom 3, Quake 4, R6lv2 that I still play alot of and IL2 with San's IL2 fov changer. This is a few of the games with fixes that I play.

If one is to get into 5x1P gaming (I Want to) I think that these games that are fixed to play at the 16x9 and 16x10 aspect ratio are not gonna ever get fixed at 5x1p res. I don't know though. Its not bad to go from 5040x1050 on 3 landscape monitors to 1680x1050 to play a game that does not support surround. However to would be a nightmare to change your desk around to go from 5x1p to 3x1L to play a surround game where there is not a fix for it for 5x1P.

Is my reasoning sound? Will some of the heavy hitters here that are brilliant with there fixes take care of some of these games for 5x1P.
I can barely follow some of the directions on some of the fixes much less actually fixing something! :oops:

Well eons ago when i had a 5x1P setup, if there was a game that didn't support that aspect ratio I did 1 of two things. Either play on the middle 3 (16:10 ratio with 3x1P 16:9 Monitors) or I would pull the middle monitor forward and rotate it.

I would also move the left most and right most monitors forward and rotate them to play 3x1L if there was a game that just didn't like SoftTH (had to do it before this driver came out).


Something to think about!

[kingjack37]

[quote]I read that 5x1 is enabled by using two DVI, the HDMI and the two DP ports? Could anyone confirm that is the way 5x1 is done with these drivers and 6000-series?

No. I gather you can only use 4 displays on the 6xxx series until displayport hubs become available next year (allowing you to connect multiple monitors to each of the displayport.. ports)

Only 2 ports out of the 2x DVI + 1x HDMI can be used at once. So no 5x1P on the current 6xxx cards for now..

iv discovered more about this:

http://wccftech.com/2010/12/16/amd-releases-catalyst-1012a-hotfix-update-official-support-radeon-hd-6900-series-added/

http://www.overclock.net/ati/890826-new-drivers-10-12a-out.html


tbh it sounds like abit of a rumor than a fact, what do you guys think?
i hope it is true then i dont have to wait to conect my 5x1setup when i get it.

[skipclarke]

I've posted benchmarks of 5x1-Portrait performance in both single card and CFX.

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/AMD_Eyefinity_5x1-P_Benchmarks