ATI Eyefinity special report

Post by **thales100** » 12 Sep 2009, 01:38

Holy crap I just discovered that Stalker demo is Call of Pripyat! HUD matches:

Wow amazing :D

NZCoyote · Post by **NZCoyote** » 12 Sep 2009, 01:39

[quote]ATI has a new page up for EyeFinity.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity.aspx

Hmmmm...that page seems to contradict what I was told about display symmetry. :?

It seems to be that all the monitors that form an SLS group must be in the same orientation and same size, but the extended monitors can be anything else.

This is the same as how Winblows currently handles dual monitors each monitor can be in any orientation or size and Windows handles it through the display properties.

With Eyefinity the SLS group appears to Windows as a large single monitor, but the extended monitors are seperate displays so can be any orientation or size. i.e. a system with a 3X22" SLS group and 1x24" extended monitor appears to Windows as a normal dual monitor system with one ultra wide 64" monitor and a 24" monitor. At some point ATI may have (speculating here) made the decision to limit it to this to keep overheads to a minimum as splitting the image into equal thirds would take a lot less processing than splitting randomly.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 12 Sep 2009, 02:14

On the CrossFire front... I'm not sure. With EyeFinity, it'd probably be better to run 'one screen per card' if you needed a performance boost, rather than trying to get CrossFire to do it. That way you've only got to worry about the EyeFinity driver situation, rather than needing to worry about both EF and CF. CF scaling might be better than SLI, but it's still not perfect. In theory EF scaling would be perfect. I doubt it will be, as the cards will have to have some cross-talk so that they don't get out of sync, but if done right the EF performance hit for three cards driving three screens and needing to crosstalk would be... what, about 5%? Just to keep frames in sync.

So, for example, if you're doing three screens off one card, rather than going dual card CF, you go tri-card. I want to see a 5870X2 with six of those mini-DisPort adaptors capable of doing EyeFinity properly, though. :D

I hope your right, that means I can get 3 of these cards and put them into my 790i (I cannot do multi card CF, obviously) THAT would be ideal...pray...pray...pray...

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 12 Sep 2009, 02:19

[quote][quote]Just buy the TH2go or wait for the 5870x2 which i should be able to afford.
Just throw all your opinions at me.!

lol forget this th2go. :wink:

Yea well its a fair amount of money, i dont wanna make a mistake :)Even if you don't forget the TH2Go, at least wait until the EyeF is out and fully reviewed

Post by **BHawthorne** » 12 Sep 2009, 03:02

ATI has a new page up for EyeFinity.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity.aspx

They omited this:

5x1 Portrait Display Group

They mislabeled this:

2x2 Display Group Plus 2 Extended

One would also assume the less popular 4x1 Display Group and 4x1 and 6x1 Portrait Display Group setups would also apply. Any symmetrical combination that doesn't exceed 8192 pixel width.

Here's my desktop at the moment just waiting for the card to be released. :wink:

-=666Protector=- · Post by **-=666Protector=-** » 12 Sep 2009, 04:02

[quote]The bezel management sounds awesome on the Eyefinity from what ive read.

For Linux, yes. Remember that Windows BM isn't implemented yet. Couple of pics to illustrate:

What size do you think those Samsung monitors were?

I think 22" or 24". I couldn't find any model # or labels on them, and didn't examine them very close. Sorry.

ATI has a new page up for EyeFinity.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity.aspx

Hmmmm...that page seems to contradict what I was told about display symmetry. :?

ok i did noticed from photo

that ther are 2 version of cyprys

rev .03 is display port only

and rev .15 is dp hdmi 2 x dvi

I thought the sticker shots might be appreciated. ;)

I blame the alcohol.

I would to, if I had any. ;)

nice
if you will read crfuly thous stickers you will see that thous cards weare
manufactured 2 and 3 months ago! so ther tic-to proces has ended and they will probably start working on next gen gfx in about next 1 to-3 months OMG!

sorry for my bad english

Post by **BHawthorne** » 12 Sep 2009, 04:05

nice
if you will read crfuly thous stickers you will see that thous cards weare
manufactured 2 and 3 months ago! so ther tic-to proces has ended and they will probably start working on next gen gfx in about next 1 to-3 months OMG!

Not to cast doubt on that claim, but do we have any pics showing in detail the writing on those "stickers"? Pictures, or else it's all hearsay. :)

-=666Protector=- · Post by **-=666Protector=-** » 12 Sep 2009, 05:17

[quote]nice
if you will read crfuly thous stickers you will see that thous cards weare
manufactured 2 and 3 months ago! so ther tic-to proces has ended and they will probably start working on next gen gfx in about next 1 to-3 months OMG!

Not to cast doubt on that claim, but do we have any pics showing in detail the writing on those "stickers"? Pictures, or else it's all hearsay. :)

stickers are on photos
production dates are on stickers just rotate them and zoom you will see...

thx to GeneralAdmission

Post by **BHawthorne** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:18

[quote][quote]nice
if you will read crfuly thous stickers you will see that thous cards weare
manufactured 2 and 3 months ago! so ther tic-to proces has ended and they will probably start working on next gen gfx in about next 1 to-3 months OMG!

Not to cast doubt on that claim, but do we have any pics showing in detail the writing on those "stickers"? Pictures, or else it's all hearsay. :)

stickers are on photos
production dates are on stickers just rotate them and zoom you will see...

thx to GeneralAdmission

Dates are shown as Rev 03 7/13/2009 and Rev 15 8/27/2009:

Keep in mind that it looks like they're still engineering samples and not production cards.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 12 Sep 2009, 06:33

A question for GA, if you can.

Does EF do the 'snap window to monitor edge' like you can do with TH2go? I have my email on the left, web browser/current work in centre, various on the right.

Post by **GeneralAdmission** » 12 Sep 2009, 07:08

A question for GA, if you can.

Does EF do the 'snap window to monitor edge' like you can do with TH2go? I have my email on the left, web browser/current work in centre, various on the right.

Wish I could answer that definitively, but I can't. Only the 3x2 setup was running a regular Windows desktop, and since I was so focused on the gaming displays I neglected to think of that while I was there. I can only say that while I watched a couple of people using the desktop display I didn't notice any obvious edge-snapping feature, but I'm just basing that on my memory of watching them drag some windows around.

That functionality might exist, and ATI would be wise to incorporate it if they have not already, but should it be absent from the EF feature list you can probably regain most or all of the capabilities you want from one of the various freeware desktop enhancement tools available online. If you are interested, now or later, I can probably spam-up some links for you pretty quick.

Dates are shown as Rev 03 7/13/2009 and Rev 15 8/27/2009:

...and I must say that "Made in Canada" is the last thing I expected to see written on a computer component. Well, not THE last thing. That would be "Made in the United States". ;)

Andrew_McP · Post by **Andrew_McP** » 12 Sep 2009, 07:22

Thanks for the great report. This looks very promising indeed, especially as I've been trying to convince myself I can justify a 295GTX to replace my 260GTX which struggles sometimes at 5040x1050 (and always if I try x4fsaa!)

This may be the first time I've *ever* been tempted to pay first wave prices for a piece of hardware. Usually I'm happy to wait and let others iron the wrinkles out of the hardware and absorb the bleeding edge financial hit.

Interesting times, especially for anyone who remembers the 9700Pro fondly and has been waiting for something similarly impressive to come along from ATI. The reported power consumption and performance looks almost too good to be true... which I guess should be a reason not to get *too* carried away yet. :-)

Andrew McP

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 12 Sep 2009, 07:38

If you are interested, now or later, I can probably spam-up some links for you pretty quick.

Cheers and thanks for a great report.

...and I must say that "Made in Canada" is the last thing I expected to see written on a computer component. Well, not THE last thing. That would be "Made in the United States". ;)

ROFL, try Made In New Zealand!

NZCoyote · Post by **NZCoyote** » 12 Sep 2009, 08:01

ROFL, try Made In New Zealand!

Isn't that code for made in Taiwan, China, Sweatshop

Post by **GeneralAdmission** » 12 Sep 2009, 08:06

[quote]ROFL, try Made In New Zealand!

Isn't that code for made in Taiwan, China, Sweatshop
Unless it's wool...or AWESOME LOTR MOVIES! :w00t

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 12 Sep 2009, 08:12

LOL, don't forget Fighter Pilots!

Mesh · Post by **Mesh** » 12 Sep 2009, 09:04

Maybe I'm just jaded to the lack of content many promises from both ati and nvidia ended up getting in real-use (who here remembers tessalation, bonus points for an actual game use of it).

Right now my stance is that my next gpu is most likely to be from Intel.

It could be wishful thinking to have such a position of course.

But maybe a 3rd player could force both current teams to stop price-fixing (which they both got away with and hardly anyone noticed).

To actually fix things with the multiple drivers revisions they do.
Instead of removing features, adding crashes and generally not helping much except saying 'see we released a new shiny thing!'.

But most of all, to actually get a game running with:
- FSAA 100% of the time
- proper driver-native custom resolution support without false fails
- actual benefit to multi-gpu configurations

and without:
- frame stuttering
- vsync half-performance
- a driver service reset the display randomly for no reason
- add 2in black bars all around for lack of proper digital scaling
- blank the display by sending 1-2Hz more than 60Hz to a flatpanel
or any other non-sense that I've have from both ati and nvidia in past cards.

whismerhill · Post by **whismerhill** » 12 Sep 2009, 11:41

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would like to answer but it's a post that will carry away from the subject which is eyefinity

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 12 Sep 2009, 13:16

If you're talking about the XPlane display remember that is Linux. I didn't see any multi-card Eyefinity displays running Windows. Of course, sync would still be an issue, just with a Microsoft flavor.

Yeah, but considering that ATi's linux drivers have, in the past, sucked balls... any limitations on the Windows platform I would suspect is coming out of Microsoft and DirectX.

[quote]A question for GA, if you can.

Does EF do the 'snap window to monitor edge' like you can do with TH2go? I have my email on the left, web browser/current work in centre, various on the right.

Wish I could answer that definitively, but I can't. Only the 3x2 setup was running a regular Windows desktop, and since I was so focused on the gaming displays I neglected to think of that while I was there. I can only say that while I watched a couple of people using the desktop display I didn't notice any obvious edge-snapping feature, but I'm just basing that on my memory of watching them drag some windows around.

That functionality might exist, and ATI would be wise to incorporate it if they have not already, but should it be absent from the EF feature list you can probably regain most or all of the capabilities you want from one of the various freeware desktop enhancement tools available online. If you are interested, now or later, I can probably spam-up some links for you pretty quick.
Might be quicker to collect a bunch of questions up and e-mail someone in ATi, GA. Since you were reporting on the event, they might answer your questions. ;)

Mesh · Post by **Mesh** » 12 Sep 2009, 17:48

[quote]...

would like to answer but it's a post that will carry away from the subject which is eyefinity

Then I guess an op could move the reply to a new thread, seemed appropriate to me here seeing as eyefinity is part of the next gen for ati.

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